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LeBron is better than MJ, porbably the best overall player ever. but MJ is still the greatest and I don’t think there’s anything any player could accomplish that would change that for at least another 15-20 years. except Luka, because he’s white.
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euphronius posted:where are the bucks if Giannis has Ben Simmons brain and soul this was who i thought Ben was going to be  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eeEeypIE8k rookie Ben Simmons was out there demanding the ball so he could attack and finish through contact
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Luka is the new MJ except instead of being unstoppably quick and explosive he moves 20% slower than everyone else on the court so every shot has a nasty hesitation built into it. And when you try to adjust he just goes 40% slower and smokes you. Unstoppable.
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Azathoth posted:LeBron is a better all time player than MJ 
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Vox Nihili posted:Luka is the new MJ except instead of being unstoppably quick and explosive he moves 20% slower than everyone else on the court so every shot has a nasty hesitation built into it. for real. he’s so loving boring to watch
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Mar 31, 2022 19:21
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The efficiency displayed now is for all player, so its not gonna be impressive. Jordan stood out, and he went out in the public conciousness displaying an automatic fadeaway. Kareem is the real real goat, taking that center thing discussed earlier into account..
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Mar 31, 2022 19:24
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Luka prays at the alter of Cheibriados. Cheibriados appreciates the change of pace.
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Mar 31, 2022 19:39
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on the flip side about steals, a player can cause a lot more turnovers than they're credit for steals. ESPN had something about some new (?) advanced statistics in the case of Fred Vanvleet:quote:Fred VanVleet
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Mar 31, 2022 19:45
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why dont they just give nba draft picks the wonderlic test and some kind of stanford prison experiment test to determine who is the alpha dog in the draft
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Mar 31, 2022 20:04
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Becuase they are 18 years old and do not have fully formed personalities
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make up is 100% considered tho and gleaned through scouts and interviews
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euphronius posted:Becuase they are 18 years old and do not have fully formed personalities they aren't fully formed at basketball either but you can still attempt an educated guess
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That's an interesting stat. Though VanVleet has been top 10 in steals per game the last 3 years, but never number one (and he's 8th this year), so I'm not sure I buy the assertion of the article that his current statistical performance doesn't reflect his ability to cause turnovers.
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Mar 31, 2022 20:11
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euphronius posted:
this is a childs understanding of basketball
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hifi posted:this is a childs understanding of basketball it’s literally what the spurs did to win like 40 titles
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Mar 31, 2022 20:13
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maybe philly should do that then
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Femur posted:The efficiency displayed now is for all player, so its not gonna be impressive. Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, probably were all more valuable than Mike, maybe a couple more. but in terms of “greatness” which isn’t solely based on on-court play I don’t think any of them have an argument, none of them are especially close
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indigi posted:Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, probably were all more valuable than Mike, maybe a couple more. but in terms of “greatness” which isn’t solely based on on-court play I don’t think any of them have an argument, none of them are especially close MJ's claim to greatness is the set of 6 seasons that make up his 3peats. No one else in NBA history has a set of 6 seasons like that. LeBron's last 3 seasons in Cleveland (the first time) and his first 3 in Miami are his best, but they're not as good as Jordan's top 6, nor are anyone else's top 6, even if you scatter them across a career. But at some point career longevity has to factor in to who is the best player, and Jordan retiring at the peak of his greatness twice is uh, kind of a knock on him in my book. Also, next two seasons we'll see a comparison between Jordan at 38-39 and LeBron at 38-39, which should be hilarious.
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Mar 31, 2022 20:34
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does Lebron get to sit out against good teams like he’s doing now?
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I have a hard time faulting anyone, particularly older players, for being healthy scratches from games nowadays. If he was the only player doing it, that'd be one thing, but the way the NBA regular season is constructed, and the relative lack of importance that "anyone above .500 makes the playoffs" puts on individual games means it's better overall for guys to play 60-70 games than to try for all 82. Like, I can't fault modern pitchers in baseball for not throwing 160 pitch complete games like they did back in the day for the same reason. Just how the game has changed.
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Azathoth posted:That's an interesting stat. Though VanVleet has been top 10 in steals per game the last 3 years, but never number one (and he's 8th this year), so I'm not sure I buy the assertion of the article that his current statistical performance doesn't reflect his ability to cause turnovers. Basically all the stats and the eye test support VanVleet being a good defensive player but he's short sooooo
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Azathoth posted:That's an interesting stat. Though VanVleet has been top 10 in steals per game the last 3 years, but never number one (and he's 8th this year), so I'm not sure I buy the assertion of the article that his current statistical performance doesn't reflect his ability to cause turnovers. My read wasn't that steals already reflect his ability to cause turnovers, it's just that it doesn't tell the whole story about how good he is at causing turnovers.
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https://twitter.com/nbcsphilly/status/1509712255037943810?s=21&t=maya-ya_CdK9IdNQnVZsKQ crying and puking like i just got divorced
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Azathoth posted:MJ's claim to greatness is the set of 6 seasons that make up his 3peats. No one else in NBA history has a set of 6 seasons like that. 
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fair
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people dribbled with 2 hands back then
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by my count, michael jordan is the 7th player to win back to back threepeats. big deal
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skipmyseashells posted:https://twitter.com/nbcsphilly/status/1509712255037943810?s=21&t=maya-ya_CdK9IdNQnVZsKQ already gone
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fart simpson posted:by my count, michael jordan is the 7th player to win back to back threepeats. big deal drat it’s true. also Iverson was more important to modern basketball than Jordan
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Dreylad posted:already gone https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1509731874976972800?s=21&t=U1CgedVbNjqhFE7hKAJk4g
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baseball starts next week !!
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euphronius posted:baseball starts next week !! you think the PHILLIES are going to bring you happiness!?
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all I’m looking for is a modicum of entertainment but yes I think the Phillies will be “good”
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but the first round of the playoffs will be exciting
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i haven’t enjoyed a playoff game in years
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last few playoffs have been amazing quit being a nba emo
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yeah who could forget this great NBA playoff moment that I have probably watched hundreds of times now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChT3ewZXTfM
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Celtics won. Aginst the Pacers. 
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skipmyseashells posted:last few playoffs have been amazing quit being a nba emo If you're not angry and depressed every time you watch sports you aren't a Real Fan
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