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KitConstantine posted:Current status around Kyiv, including settlements reported re-captured today: Yeah I just checked the livemap and the difference from yesterday are huge. Both northwest and east of Kiev, a complete retreat.
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Mi-28 shot down, skip to 0:54 https://twitter.com/SputnikATO/status/1509877562960494593?cxt=HHwWgoC-qZrplPQpAAAA
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About drat time.  A lot of stories about dicks in the Moscow Times today. LOL
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Apr 1, 2022 14:23
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quote:We are now hearing from the Kremlin as Russia responds to the alleged Ukrainian attack on a Russian oil depot in Belgorod. Bombing a maternity hospital: creating comfortable conditions for peace talks. Enemy blowing up a fuel depot: not creating more comfortable conditions to continue peace talks.
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Apr 1, 2022 14:26
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So, looks like the Russians weren’t lying about their withdrawal from Kyiv huh
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Charlotte Hornets posted:Mi-28 shot down, skip to 0:54 Looks like they are pulling the "Long distance random missile launches" and got caught. Oops.
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Apr 1, 2022 14:28
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smug n stuff posted:So, looks like the Russians weren’t lying about their withdrawal from Kyiv huh Technically not, but its anything but orderly. I would not be surprised if communication was so bad that that pocket we're seeing now in the northwest had no idea there was supposed to even be a retreat until it was too late.
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smug n stuff posted:So, looks like the Russians weren’t lying about their withdrawal from Kyiv huh The problem is they are still doing a fighting retreat, its not just a withdrawal, and its very likely they are just being moved east to attack again after refit and resupply.
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CommieGIR posted:The problem is they are still doing a fighting retreat, its not just a withdrawal, and its very likely they are just being moved east to attack again after refit and resupply. Yeah regardless of how it's characterized, the intention is clearly to redirect resources to try and seize Donbas and sue for peace.
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Apr 1, 2022 14:35
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smug n stuff posted:So, looks like the Russians weren’t lying about their withdrawal from Kyiv huh
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CommieGIR posted:The problem is they are still doing a fighting retreat, its not just a withdrawal, and its very likely they are just being moved east to attack again after refit and resupply. I font think ”fighting retreat” is the word, or even ”withdrawal” I think the term is ”rout” since they seem to be leaving behind unscuttled equipment.
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Apr 1, 2022 14:39
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:About drat time. That piece of territory ought to have been ceded to Poland in any case. It has no historical connection to Russia at all, other than the Russians seized Konisberg in 1945 and renamed it. PS. I don’t think Lithuania is going to launch an invasion of Kaliningrad, nor do I think they should; however, it has always struck me as ridiculous the Russians annexed this after the Second World War and did not either cede it back to the GDR or give it to Poland.
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Regarding the two generals Zelenskyy fired - apparently Russian infiltration into the Ukrainian security apparatus has been a concern for some time. Some articles linked in his comments, one from 2014 and one from 2019 - the more recent being specifically about how one of Zelenskyy's goals with his presidency was to eliminate spies in the security services. https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1509857647452999710?s=20&t=Kp5wCddV77A_PRdo1WfgMQ
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60954565quote:You may remember that French actor Gerard Depardieu took up Russian citizenship in 2013 after leaving France for tax reasons. Excuse my French but...  gently caress you tax dodger!Hope he gets a special reception for his events in Paris.
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Dwesa posted:depends whether it was actually planned or it's rout I mean comparing how long it took for UA to fully recapture Irpin, to how fast they're covering territory the last couple of days, it doesn't seem like they're encountering hardly any resistance.
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Even after the sanctions do start having a big effect on daily lives, whenever that is, I think it'll take a long time before they start being a political problem. At first if anything they probably instill more patriotism - from what I have read, the idea that the west hates Russia and Russians because of their freedoms has been very successfully driven in.
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Charlotte Hornets posted:Mi-28 shot down, skip to 0:54 This looks almost too clean to be real.
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maybe the attack on the oil depot was meant to keep the russians occupied in the north so that they can't reinforce as quickly in the east?
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ummel posted:This looks almost too clean to be real. Can it be a Starstreak ? These have a tiny warhead and seem to rely on kinetic energy from a hit of one or the three sub-missiles.
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ZombieLenin posted:That piece of territory ought to have been ceded to Poland in any case. It has no historical connection to Russia at all, other than the Russians seized Konisberg in 1945 and renamed it. I don't think they cared about this as much as they wanted a second Baltic port (or is it a third? I only know about Ust-Luga).
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What a time to be alive.
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CommieGIR posted:The problem is they are still doing a fighting retreat, its not just a withdrawal, and its very likely they are just being moved east to attack again after refit and resupply. Why is this a problem? I would hope Russian forces would be under attack even if they are retreating. Just letting them go so they can regroup, that would be a problem.
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Kofman's take on withdrawal/retreat/rout https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1509891083370704915
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uXs posted:Why is this a problem? I would hope Russian forces would be under attack even if they are retreating. Just letting them go so they can regroup, that would be a problem. They are the ones continuing to attack. Its not just them leaving, they continue to shell Kyiv for instance.
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ZombieLenin posted:That piece of territory ought to have been ceded to Poland in any case. It has no historical connection to Russia at all, other than the Russians seized Konisberg in 1945 and renamed it. Nobody really wanted to have it. It got offered (informally) to Germany, but they outright refused. There are no Germans there, it's impoverished, heavily polluted and Germany doesn't even have a border with it. Might as well have offered it to Italy. Probably the same for Poland. Nobody wanted a city full of impoverished Russians and an environmental diaster that would have costed billions to clean up on their hands.
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Also tremendous lol at the site Admin's April Fool's thing lol
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A beaten army, no, an uncontrolled mob ran towards the border in senseless panic.
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Better get that in writing and singed for CYA reasons
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Randarkman posted:A beaten army, no, an uncontrolled mob ran towards the border in senseless panic. We're talking about the current withdrawal, not the initial invasion.
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FishMcCool posted:I am Jack's complete lack of surprise... Just finished the BBC video of civilian bodies burnt on piles of tires to hide evidence, so yes.
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So the attack on the Russian Fuel Dump is plausible as hell. Attack helicopters are basically designed for this type of mission. In fact while the F-117 got much of the glory for taking out the radar and SAM sites in Iraq in Desert Storm, the majority were taken out by AH-64s and AH-1s basically doing the same sort of mission as was seen here, flying in very close to the ground, taking their shots and bugging out. The fact that the target is only 20 miles or so over the boarder that means they would be only a minute or two fence in and the entire time being in any sort of danger for the pilots would be about five minutes or so. Not saying it isn't dangerous or that you wouldn't have a puckered butthole for awhile afterward. Helicopter pilots are generally nuts anyway.
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Djarum posted:So the attack on the Russian Fuel Dump is plausible as hell. Attack helicopters are basically designed for this type of mission. In fact while the F-117 got much of the glory for taking out the radar and SAM sites in Iraq in Desert Storm, the majority were taken out by AH-64s and AH-1s basically doing the same sort of mission as was seen here, flying in very close to the ground, taking their shots and bugging out. Its more suprising because Russia supposedly has really good radar and AA coverage, but apparently didn't expect Helicopters vs medium to high altitude aircraft.
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CommieGIR posted:Its more suprising because Russia supposedly has really good radar and AA coverage, but apparently didn't expect Helicopters vs medium to high altitude aircraft. I feel like "supposedly" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
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CommieGIR posted:Its more suprising because Russia supposedly has really good radar and AA coverage, but apparently didn't expect Helicopters vs medium to high altitude aircraft. probably. but this (as of now) is Ukraine's doolittle raid, unless russia is really that much of paper tiger ghost army. i doubt they will be able to pull it off again. least in that area.
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ZombieLenin posted:That piece of territory ought to have been ceded to Poland in any case. It has no historical connection to Russia at all, other than the Russians seized Konisberg in 1945 and renamed it. Just as America’s most ridiculous foreign policy decisions always seem to be driven by oil Russias most ridiculous and aggressive foreign policy decisions are almost always driven by a desire for ice-free ports
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Dapper_Swindler posted:probably. but this (as of now) is Ukraine's doolittle raid, unless russia is really that much of paper tiger ghost army. i doubt they will be able to pull it off again. least in that area. If that airfield they kept leaving aircraft out to get bombed over and over again is typical strategy, we can assume they're going to put out the fire and store some more fuel there. "They'll never expect us to do something so stupid!"
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Randarkman posted:I feel like "supposedly" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. We know they have excellent coverage over Poland and Ukraine because the radar can be detected by satellite. https://hackaday.com/2022/03/02/you-can-find-military-radars-on-publicly-available-satellite-data/
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smug n stuff posted:Kofman's take on withdrawal/retreat/rout Its a good point that they created the miles long queue going in, are they just going abandon everything going out if anothet one occurs?
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