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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Louisgod posted:

good great wonderful fantastic, I was a huge loving idiot yesterday and let my guard down by letting a friend come over for an hour last night with his daughter to hang and he texted me a bit ago saying he tested positive. another friend was 10 minutes away from coming over with HIS kid as well (he and I are our bubble in that he stays home all the time too) and his kiddo was heartbroken since we had plans to till up some raised beds and plant some spring seeds. I'm just.. so done with trusting others. so done. people are poo poo.

with all that in mind, how long after potential exposure should I test? this was about 7 pm last night, it's 1:30 pm now and I just took a rapid test. should I wait a couple days?

omicron incubation appeared to average between 36 and 72 hours but covid can take up to two weeks to show up. I’d do rapids at two and seven days and a pcr at five, but obviously any symptoms showing up means testing when they do.

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Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
% COVID Increases over past 15 days

pre:
Ann Arbor	      155
Bakersfield	66
Baltimore/DC metro	98
Bloomington	433
Boulder	1179
Chicago	640
Chicago Metro	375
Cincinnati	3039
Clearwater	102
Colorado Springs	186
Denver	645
El Paso	633
Flint	63
Fort Collins	177
Green Bay	3655
Honolulu	1049
Iowa City	40
Kankakee	180
Las Vegas	500
Los Angeles	5344
Madison	177
Milwaukee	148
New York City	75
Oakland	611
Orlando	629
Pensacola	353
Portland	3201
Providence	116
Pueblo	6201
Racine 	663
REno	14
Riverside	10725
Rochester	197
Rockford	250
Salt Lake City	261
San Jose	35
Spokane	227
Springfield	386
Toledo	800
Topeka	237
Utah	422
Vancouver	350
Ventura	58
Washington DC	464
Wilmington	226

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Louisgod posted:

thank you all. I loving hate people.

sorry buddy god.

Please smite us people

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

RC Cola posted:

I had to go to st louis earlier this week. My unmasked co-workers went to that game. I did not go. They told me how nice it was to be in a state that doesn't look down on you for being maskless(we came from Denver which is full Open Biden) so lol

Lol I got an email that at least one person on this trip popped positive. Back to fill lockdown for myself for the next long while. Hope I didn't get it by being the only masked person

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo

Pillowpants posted:

% COVID Increases over past 15 days

pre:
Ann Arbor	      155
Bakersfield	66
Baltimore/DC metro	98
Bloomington	433
Boulder	1179
Chicago	640
Chicago Metro	375
Cincinnati	3039
Clearwater	102
Colorado Springs	186
Denver	645
El Paso	633
Flint	63
Fort Collins	177
Green Bay	3655
Honolulu	1049
Iowa City	40
Kankakee	180
Las Vegas	500
Los Angeles	5344
Madison	177
Milwaukee	148
New York City	75
Oakland	611
Orlando	629
Pensacola	353
Portland	3201
Providence	116
Pueblo	6201
Racine 	663
REno	14
Riverside	10725
Rochester	197
Rockford	250
Salt Lake City	261
San Jose	35
Spokane	227
Springfield	386
Toledo	800
Topeka	237
Utah	422
Vancouver	350
Ventura	58
Washington DC	464
Wilmington	226

where's this data from? ty!

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

Louisgod posted:

good great wonderful fantastic, I was a huge loving idiot yesterday and let my guard down by letting a friend come over for an hour last night with his daughter to hang and he texted me a bit ago saying he tested positive. another friend was 10 minutes away from coming over with HIS kid as well (he and I are our bubble in that he stays home all the time too) and his kiddo was heartbroken since we had plans to till up some raised beds and plant some spring seeds. I'm just.. so done with trusting others. so done. people are poo poo.

with all that in mind, how long after potential exposure should I test? this was about 7 pm last night, it's 1:30 pm now and I just took a rapid test. should I wait a couple days?
Don’t bother rapid testing unless you have symptoms or it’s been like 5+ days. PCR or LAMP (Lucira’s test) might work a little sooner but still has significant false negatives until at least 5+ days, I think (haven’t seen the data on this for Omicron).

Captain Magic
Apr 4, 2005

Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.
hey thread, thanks for the positive vibes

Baby girl is off the EEG leads so she no longer looks like Xavier hooked up to prototype Cerebro and she has been seizure-free for about 44 hours now. She had a CEREBRAL SINOVENOUS THROMBOSIS which is as scary as it sounds. The kind of stroke where your blood can’t leave your brain, instead of the kind where it can’t get in. It’s rarer than the former type apparently.


They ruled out every other kind of problem (infections, virus) and so she is off all meds except for a maintenance anti-seizure med that we’ll keep giving her for a while just to be safe. She will be able to come home just as soon as she’s gained back some weight and shows good feeding habits, which she already started today (Mom even breastfed her for a bit!!!)

the Covid+ baby next door is like, inside a plastic cube with a mask hook-up and their nurses wear full clean suits, and *oh my god that poor child*, and also I am glad their air is not circulating

Captain Magic has issued a correction as of 21:59 on Apr 2, 2022

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



RC Cola posted:

Lol I got an email that at least one person on this trip popped positive. Back to fill lockdown for myself for the next long while. Hope I didn't get it by being the only masked person

I spent an hour in a car with a symptomatic covid-positive person (negative on a rapid test!) and my CAN99 stopped me from getting it. Hopefully you made it through unscathed.

Feste
Apr 7, 2009

Trixie Hardcore posted:

I do think plenty of “bUt I DiD eVeRytHiNg riGHt!!” claims come from people who did not in fact do everything right but it seems totally believable that someone could wear an N95 all the time and still get covid. It’s not like most people are doing a fit test every day or wearing eye protection. If you’re surrounded by maskless rona fountains you’re running a higher risk of getting unlucky.

The handful of 'I'm being extremely careful, actually' friends all caught it in moments when the mask was off, even if they didn't make the connection/admit to it.

One got it while traveling and I found out later they took off their mask for 'just a few seconds here and there for water' (but were still skeptical it was the route of transmission)

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
I would never trust anyone who said they are "being careful". if they tell me they are a paranoid weardo maybe I'll take their word

Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013

mark immune posted:

where's this data from? ty!

by reading the pee leaves :dadjoke:

Ferdinand Bardamu has issued a correction as of 22:07 on Apr 2, 2022

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

Louisgod posted:

thank you all. I loving hate people.

drat you should have been friends with me, I would have said 'gently caress NO I'm not coming over you infectious loving loser' and blocked your number.

You gotta look out for your friends. :colbert:

Feste
Apr 7, 2009

Rutibex posted:

I would never trust anyone who said they are "being careful". if they tell me they are a paranoid weardo maybe I'll take their word

They're 'being careful' as determined by their self-evaluated personal risk assessment which government messaging has convinced them allows you to intellectualize your way out of gaining ill-effects from covid.

These are the same folks that would argue that buying an electric vehicle makes them a savior of the planet, the planet they enjoy through plenty of air travel each year.

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

Louisgod posted:

good great wonderful fantastic, I was a huge loving idiot yesterday and let my guard down by letting a friend come over for an hour last night with his daughter to hang and he texted me a bit ago saying he tested positive. another friend was 10 minutes away from coming over with HIS kid as well (he and I are our bubble in that he stays home all the time too) and his kiddo was heartbroken since we had plans to till up some raised beds and plant some spring seeds. I'm just.. so done with trusting others. so done. people are poo poo.

with all that in mind, how long after potential exposure should I test? this was about 7 pm last night, it's 1:30 pm now and I just took a rapid test. should I wait a couple days?
So wait did this dude know he was positive/sick/maybe exposed before coming over?

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
lmao we are at the Open Biden lib grandparents and my father in law was asking me about a six pack I brought from a local brewery and he just casually mentions ‘oh yeah, I had some of that at the casino a few weeks ago, it’s pretty good’. just lmao COVID could not be more over if it tried.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Zugzwang posted:

So wait did this dude know he was positive/sick/maybe exposed before coming over?

no, he said he woke up with a sore throat and runny nose this morning and his open biden rapid test under the T strip is like straight up dark red (darker than the C line lol), which means he's probably had it for like over a week now. what's wonderful is that I saw him a couple times this week while picking up my kids from school and he's strutting around without a mask amongst the crowd of other parents who are also not wearing masks (while I throw on my aura every time) so it's possible he and his daughter is getting others sick as well. he's a super cool dude, we both align extremely well politically but people here in Eugene have outright given up. I mean look at this loving test!



I guess this is what letting 'er rip looks like and the price for trusting somebody other than like three of my really close friends. what's really stressing me out is that I'm still having productive allergy coughing so throwing COVID on top of that could kick my rear end, AND neither of my kids are vaccinated because of their loving mother. I told her the kids NEED to stay home this week and that I'm more than happy to keep them with me all this week to not expose her (she's of course not vaccinated and has a myriad of health concerns) but nah, she says she wants to pick them up Monday. I truly hope this is "mild" and that my kids are okay but I'm gonna laugh/be horrified if it destroys their mom.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
also what medication or vitamins should I be taking or giving my kids leading up to the 5 day mark that could possibly help us? is there anything?

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.

Thoguh posted:

lmao we are at the Open Biden lib grandparents and my father in law was asking me about a six pack I brought from a local brewery and he just casually mentions ‘oh yeah, I had some of that at the casino a few weeks ago, it’s pretty good’. just lmao COVID could not be more over if it tried.

I was told I had to take off my mask so I didn't embarrass my sibling because I guess wearing a mask anymore makes you look insane in chudland. I refused

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Louisgod posted:

also what medication or vitamins should I be taking or giving my kids leading up to the 5 day mark that could possibly help us? is there anything?

Make sure they're eating and drinking the usual amounts, even if covid kills their appetites. As much rest as possible. NSAIDs in case of fever or pain.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

not_superiority posted:

yeah cool we can't exactly afford to lose half our income right now. he's not a computer toucher so most remote work is out the window.

but i guess i should have expected this kind of a response oh well

I’m sorry it read as crass I understand the predicament, the second paragraph was meant as dig at Gene the movie watcher, and this bullshit county that doesn’t help us, not your other half

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
dunno about the wife situation but get your kids vaxxed asap

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.

inferis posted:

she has kids in school

Feste posted:

The handful of 'I'm being extremely careful, actually' friends all caught it in moments when the mask was off, even if they didn't make the connection/admit to it.

One got it while traveling and I found out later they took off their mask for 'just a few seconds here and there for water' (but were still skeptical it was the route of transmission)

I know, I’m specifically talking about the possibility of catching covid while wearing a mask, not people who thought/claimed they were masking all the time and were not. I’m not a doctor but with BA.2 being insanely contagious and most people not masking I don’t think just wearing a mask is enough in every situation. Anecdotally not only are most people not masking it’s like people forgot how to even cover their mouths when they cough. If you’re getting bukkaked with everyone’s rona all day and your mask isn’t fit perfectly or you’re not wearing eye protection while you take load after viral load to the face I don’t think it’s out of the question you could get covid while wearing a mask.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

RealityWarCriminal posted:

dunno about the wife situation but get your kids vaxxed asap

I want to but can’t, even spoke to two lawyers about it. I’ll leave it at that but trust me, I would if I could

BoothBaberGinsburg
Jan 4, 2021

Deploying emergency cats

Captain Magic posted:

hey thread, thanks for the positive vibes
:3: have more positive vibes, glad to hear she's making progress! Here's to many more victories ahead for your family.
My nephew had a perinatal stroke and spent a few weeks in the NICU with a grim prognosis. He recently turned 13, kicks rear end in all his outpatient physical therapy and speech therapy, and loves asking fun questions like "what d'you think the world would be like if Carthage had managed to repel the Romans?"
Hope you don't mind me sharing. I know it's a scary thing to experience as a family and it definitely helped us to hear from others going through similar.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Louisgod posted:

I want to but can’t, even spoke to two lawyers about it. I’ll leave it at that but trust me, I would if I could

holy loving wow

I'm sorry your ex spouse turned out to be an actual honest to God death cultist

what the actual gently caress

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
your kids don't really need a shot but little Max and Maxine Titers do

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD


when the pt has BA.1 AND BA.2

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

Louisgod posted:

no, he said he woke up with a sore throat and runny nose this morning and his open biden rapid test under the T strip is like straight up dark red (darker than the C line lol), which means he's probably had it for like over a week now. what's wonderful is that I saw him a couple times this week while picking up my kids from school and he's strutting around without a mask amongst the crowd of other parents who are also not wearing masks (while I throw on my aura every time) so it's possible he and his daughter is getting others sick as well. he's a super cool dude, we both align extremely well politically but people here in Eugene have outright given up. I mean look at this loving test!



I guess this is what letting 'er rip looks like and the price for trusting somebody other than like three of my really close friends. what's really stressing me out is that I'm still having productive allergy coughing so throwing COVID on top of that could kick my rear end, AND neither of my kids are vaccinated because of their loving mother. I told her the kids NEED to stay home this week and that I'm more than happy to keep them with me all this week to not expose her (she's of course not vaccinated and has a myriad of health concerns) but nah, she says she wants to pick them up Monday. I truly hope this is "mild" and that my kids are okay but I'm gonna laugh/be horrified if it destroys their mom.

Oh loving hell. Goddamn what a mess. I hope this works out for you.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Greg Legg posted:

Oh loving hell. Goddamn what a mess. I hope this works out for you.

thanks, if I come out unscathed I’ll give full credit to the high quality Oregon weed

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Louisgod posted:

I want to but can’t, even spoke to two lawyers about it. I’ll leave it at that but trust me, I would if I could

guess its time to :sever: if your kids are siding with their mom. if they spread covid to you its basically a death sentence. what’s more valuable, a little time with them now, or the rest of your lives?

Plastic Pal
Jun 5, 2004

~ It's you. Only you. ~


Louisgod posted:

people here in Eugene have outright given up.

They really have; it's surreal to see the near complete uptake of corporate media narrative. Brains just absolutely switched off. Even at rich lib haven Market of Choice which was previously really good about it. Though weirdly, at Fred Meyer yesterday, nearly everyone incl customers were masking, so :shrug: IDEK anymore.

Roomie & I feel insane witnessing the illogic and idiocy on display all around us when we venture out for errands. It's just nuts to see restaurants packed to the gills with the unmasked -- just how on earth people square doing that or mingling with crowds outside with the claim of being "safe" blows my god damned mind.

We don't take off our masks while away from home, full loving stop, not to eat or drink, until we are back in the car with windows up. We haven't gone out to eat since very early 2020. gently caress that noise forever.

Food as entertainment as THE culture cornerstone of the U.S. must be preserved even at the price of mass death.

I despise this capitalist hellhole country so much.

pissinthewind
Nov 11, 2021

i went to a store to buy a new harness for one of my doggos because the other one chewed the buckle off the old one and no one but me was wearing a mask and i was horrified

i feel crazy and insane like lmao dont want to get a disease that shrinks my brain more than i already shrunk it assholes but oh covid doesnt even exist anymore

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006

mark immune posted:

where's this data from? ty!

CDC Wastewater tracker

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

Petey posted:

well i just learned i have a "at minimum moderately narrowed" major artery in my heart so wish me luck dodging this next wave (and getting my procedure done before the hospitals are overrun)

(i'm active and otherwise healthy, and have been on statins as a precaution since i was 21 since my dad had his first heart attack at like 30, so hopefully it's been caught early enough for a good intervention, and my new case of 9210s will come in handy until i can get in somewhere)

Sorry to hear that. I was in the ER the other day and it hit home how risky any kind of medical care or procedure will be going forward, assuming you want to avoid COVID. However it really was lower exposure than the grocery store or in-person work with unmasked co-workers, which is either comforting or horrifying.

Have to wonder if Molnupiravir or Paxlovid will ever be approved for prophylactic use in advance of significant exposure like surgeries. Maybe administered early enough they could largely avert potential infections.


Always good to be reminded American healthcare was terrible pre-COVID. Not like Canada is much better in this respect though.

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

scary ghost dog posted:

guess its time to :sever: if your kids are siding with their mom. if they spread covid to you its basically a death sentence. what’s more valuable, a little time with them now, or the rest of your lives?

I already have plans to fake a couple paternity tests to drive the point homwe that I want to be free of their disease, thank you

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Louisgod posted:

good great wonderful fantastic, I was a huge loving idiot yesterday and let my guard down by letting a friend come over for an hour last night with his daughter to hang and he texted me a bit ago saying he tested positive. another friend was 10 minutes away from coming over with HIS kid as well (he and I are our bubble in that he stays home all the time too) and his kiddo was heartbroken since we had plans to till up some raised beds and plant some spring seeds. I'm just.. so done with trusting others. so done. people are poo poo.

with all that in mind, how long after potential exposure should I test? this was about 7 pm last night, it's 1:30 pm now and I just took a rapid test. should I wait a couple days?

was this person your respirator?

if not, why did you trust them?

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

empty whippet box posted:

was this person your respirator?

if not, why did you trust them?

Doing a human centipede will not protect you from COVID.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Petey posted:

well i just learned i have a "at minimum moderately narrowed" major artery in my heart so wish me luck dodging this next wave (and getting my procedure done before the hospitals are overrun)

(i'm active and otherwise healthy, and have been on statins as a precaution since i was 21 since my dad had his first heart attack at like 30, so hopefully it's been caught early enough for a good intervention, and my new case of 9210s will come in handy until i can get in somewhere)

Nocturtle posted:

Sorry to hear that. I was in the ER the other day and it hit home how risky any kind of medical care or procedure will be going forward, assuming you want to avoid COVID. However it really was lower exposure than the grocery store or in-person work with unmasked co-workers, which is either comforting or horrifying.

Have to wonder if Molnupiravir or Paxlovid will ever be approved for prophylactic use in advance of significant exposure like surgeries. Maybe administered early enough they could largely avert potential infections.

one thing to note is that paxlovid has quite a few potential drug interactions, one of the more common ones being statins. it's not a big deal, you just want to stop taking the statins twelve hours prior to taking paxlovid and then stay off them for the duration of the treatment. this is something that would be caught by your doctor or pharmacist if they're the ones giving you the dose of paxlovid, but since we're in a hellworld where you might have to shop around for a pharmacy that actually has it in stock and a doctor willing to prescribe, it's good to check yourself if you're on any medications.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

how quickly can you get infected? if i jog past someone and get a whiff is that all it takes? or is it that “15mins close contact” type deal?

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BoothBaberGinsburg
Jan 4, 2021

pissinthewind posted:

i feel crazy and insane like lmao dont want to get a disease that shrinks my brain more than i already shrunk it assholes but oh covid doesnt even exist anymore
:same:
sadly being the weird kid did not prepare me for being the weird adult

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