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https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1510627832111656969 I wish my country would do things like this.
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Apr 4, 2022 18:11
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1510627832111656969 that is such an amazing, unbelievable thing for a local government to declare with such short notice and be confident in their ability to achieve it
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Apr 4, 2022 18:13
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https://mobile.twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1511003371628646418
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Apr 4, 2022 18:23
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1510627832111656969 god imagine being part of a polity that believed in communal effort like this
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Apr 4, 2022 18:27
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Truga posted:lmfao there's one comment on that article and it's It's just the flu, which also isn't real
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Apr 4, 2022 18:34
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Centrist Committee posted:god imagine being part of a polity that believed in communal effort like this if you have any covid doomer friends I’ve found this sort of stuff is a really easy way to chinapill them
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Apr 4, 2022 18:37
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanl_hass/status/1510949730251116546
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Apr 4, 2022 19:56
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Dont quote me on it, but I think the unusual amount of ugly stories coming out of Shanghai has to do with the guy running SH (Li Qiang) is a Xi guy. There is a lot of secret pushing and pulling to make sure the Xi guys are not getting good positions in 20th congress. I am okay with Xi guys not getting into standing committee.
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Apr 4, 2022 21:10
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stephenthinkpad posted:Dont quote me on it, but I think the unusual amount of ugly stories coming out of Shanghai has to do with the guy running SH (Li Qiang) is a Xi guy. There is a lot of secret pushing and pulling to make sure the Xi guys are not getting good positions in 20th congress. how come
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Apr 4, 2022 21:25
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leftist "unity" strikes again 
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Apr 4, 2022 22:07
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stephenthinkpad posted:Dont quote me on it, but I think the unusual amount of ugly stories coming out of Shanghai has to do with the guy running SH (Li Qiang) is a Xi guy. There is a lot of secret pushing and pulling to make sure the Xi guys are not getting good positions in 20th congress. Sounds interesting. Feel free to expand on this.
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Apr 4, 2022 22:11
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stephenthinkpad posted:Dont quote me on it, but I think the unusual amount of ugly stories coming out of Shanghai has to do with the guy running SH (Li Qiang) is a Xi guy. There is a lot of secret pushing and pulling to make sure the Xi guys are not getting good positions in 20th congress. pushing and pulling from what flanks, to what ends?
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Apr 4, 2022 22:20
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Breakfast All Day posted:pushing and pulling from what flanks, to what ends? Both the Jiang faction and the "Tianpai" (Hu + Hu Chun hua + Wang Yang ) among others. To make sure the other factions have a say in Xi's potential heir.
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Apr 4, 2022 22:34
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do those factions not really like Xi or is it more they want to make sure the successor isn’t some fuckhead
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Apr 4, 2022 22:52
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Are they gonna find a bigger, cooler communist to replace xi or what
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Apr 4, 2022 23:12
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Fractionalism has always been part of Chinese dynastic politic.
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Apr 4, 2022 23:16
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stephenthinkpad posted:Fractionalism has always been part of Chinese dynastic politic. I’m asking if we know what’s motivating the factions
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Apr 4, 2022 23:23
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https://twitter.com/ruima/status/1511110509138898944?s=20&t=CxAqfBv3JJYtdVbAVaGBzA
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Apr 4, 2022 23:54
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DiscountDildos posted:https://twitter.com/ruima/status/1511110509138898944?s=20&t=CxAqfBv3JJYtdVbAVaGBzA hmm. seems pretty good
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Apr 4, 2022 23:56
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Video of how the euro-to-ruble thing is going to work out: https://twitter.com/incontextmedia/status/1510938045859737614
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Apr 5, 2022 00:28
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indigi posted:hmm. seems pretty good I haven't seen a bonus since 2019 so yeah lmao I agree
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Apr 5, 2022 00:30
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Rando memery about Shanghai declaring independence, unrelated (?) to the Shanghai National Party astroturf fringe dorks, for once https://twitter.com/big_ear_cat/status/1509870271255166989 https://twitter.com/shadowglenelf/status/1510645148782247944 https://twitter.com/lude_media/status/1509122147934879746 Jokes aside, Shanghai is relatively pretty lib, like Hong Kong. Wondering if any other coastal mega-cities have a similar "too good for the rest of the country" attitude to their identity. Shenzhen doesn't afaik
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Apr 5, 2022 00:36
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Shenzhen doesnt because they are just starting to get a generation of kids born into relative wealth thanks to the back breaking work of their parents, but a lot of these kids formative years were spent under Xi thought which has shaped them differently than the more lib areas
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Apr 5, 2022 00:40
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https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1508781269139697666?s=20&t=CxAqfBv3JJYtdVbAVaGBzA https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1508111260159647748?s=20&t=CxAqfBv3JJYtdVbAVaGBzA https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1508111264085516289?s=20&t=CxAqfBv3JJYtdVbAVaGBzA It sounds like this is just kind of on brand for shanghai. Lots of money. Lots of foreigners. Lots of superiority complex.
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Apr 5, 2022 00:49
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Taiwan's economy is the size of Shanghai, these days. CPC should think twice about annexing such a place. With great capital comes great cringe
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Apr 5, 2022 00:55
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DiscountDildos posted:https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1508781269139697666?s=20&t=CxAqfBv3JJYtdVbAVaGBzA Yeah. You can basically transcribe any new Yorker stereotypes (especially Manhattan) to Shanghai and they work perfectly. Chinese people are getting very fed up with the rules. It's not just about foreign travel, tbh, very few people experienced or cared about that. But movement within the country is heavily restricted, which is very bad for morale. Many many Chinese people live far away from their families for their jobs, and can only go home once or twice a year for holidays. For the last 3 spring festivals (by far biggest holiday) there have been "stay in place" orders. People are starting to think "what's the point of covid 0 if I can't even see my family" also everyone in China is aware that overseas, life is back to normal and people are going on vacations. Ofc the huge number of casualties from the wests stupid policies are not publicized. If covid 0 lasts to the next spring festival, I will be totally shocked.
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Apr 5, 2022 00:56
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Wuhan was hosting EDM festivals a year ago, what happened
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Apr 5, 2022 01:00
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Omicron is very good at spreading and Hong Kong is a super spreader island (liberals).
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Apr 5, 2022 01:58
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1510627832111656969 They didn't get the tests back by 7PM but they did do everyone. Pretty neat, but it really helps when everyone is in nicely organized little 小區 or big rear end complexes. Abolish detached housing. Maximo Roboto posted:Rando memery about Shanghai declaring independence, unrelated (?) to the Shanghai National Party astroturf fringe dorks, for once Having just moved from HK to Shanghai, they're both super lib and precious. I'll agree that Carrie and Co have been pretty loving random because the ruling political class of HK are just drooling idiots that make US Congress critters look empowered. They need to satisfy Beijing and the financial class of HK and those groups are basically sitting in direct opposition on COVID policy. This has led to HK trying to have it both ways on COVID policy and running screaming in both directions whenever cases go up or down. Thankfully the politics are gonna go great with libs already comparing 90s CEs to Vaclav Havel and the presumptive follow-up to them as loving Putin lol. Shanghai is just mega lib because its always been the most "cosmopolitan" (e.g, Western) city and so you end up with the London / NYC type culture folks swarming around and being who they are. Has just gotten worse since I last lived here in 2014. Doesn't help that being being in the Shanghai leadership position is seen as a strong stepping stone to standing committee or at the very least a powerful factional position in the party. indigi posted:do those factions not really like Xi or is it more they want to make sure the successor isn’t some fuckhead There's always a lot of political wrangling leading up the the turnover of the standing committee, and a lot of times the influence players are previous standing committee members trying to secure their specific projects / ideology - so expect stuff about Hu Jintao to start cropping up again and maybe they'll dust off Jiang Zemin. If we remember back to Ye Olde 2012 there was a lot of push-pull between the Xi faction and the one that ostensibly backed Bo Xilai. I still think Bo Xilai may have done a better job addressing some health and social spending infrastructure that continues to be a pain point in China, but Xi obviously has built the physical infrastructure and "China-for-China" supply chains that bolster the country's position as both an international political-economic player and help the bottom line. Read the corruption scandal of Bo Xilai and Xi's crackdowns as you will from that, the truth is that the standing committee members make sure their networks get to eat. Xi is very popular, but definitely has detractors in the party because he's played favorites to build his projects. China is not free from politics. Mirello posted:Yeah. You can basically transcribe any new Yorker stereotypes (especially Manhattan) to Shanghai and they work perfectly. Maybe we just speak to different people but I don't get as much of this impression. I too would be surprised if the government doesn't do some degree of course correction, but I don't think there's a huge impetus towards "open er up" policies. Maybe Shanghai's government was trying to push that by doing their big data microtargeting testing and lockdowns prior to this big lockdown, but it's pretty clear when compared to Shenzhen they hosed up and folks are more pissed at them having to pull an HK-style bait-and-switch with the requisite runs on groceries and so on. Most people in my community are more pissed that they weren't given an opportunity to prepare and the government has only provided one piddly bag of bok choy and cabbage, and I feel the same way, give me a goddam carrot lol Now today with the cases going up again there's been no direction on what next besides "You're locked down until we can get our poo poo together".
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Apr 5, 2022 04:16
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Telluric Whistler posted:They didn't get the tests back by 7PM but they did do everyone. Pretty neat, but it really helps when everyone is in nicely organized little 小區 or big rear end complexes. Abolish detached housing. thanks that’s a helpful answer
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Apr 5, 2022 04:24
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Mirello posted:Yeah. You can basically transcribe any new Yorker stereotypes (especially Manhattan) to Shanghai and they work perfectly. LET'S GO GOLDEN EAGLES LOVE DA EAGLES SHANGHAI BABEY!!!
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Apr 5, 2022 04:25
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it sounds like the lockdowns outside of Shanghai went pretty smoothly, is that about right? i recall Qingdao and shenzhen being early epicenters but that they’ve basically had restrictions lifted now
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Apr 5, 2022 04:51
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Telluric Whistler posted:Doesn't help that being being in the Shanghai leadership position is seen as a strong stepping stone to standing committee or at the very least a powerful factional position in the party. Say what you want about the U.S. political establishment, it's smart enough to cut New Yorkers from the top positions, at least post-Roosevelts.
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Apr 5, 2022 04:53
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Even bumbling Shanghai can just up and test every person in a day I imagine that's terrible for the economy however
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Apr 5, 2022 04:53
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Maximo Roboto posted:Say what you want about the U.S. political establishment, it's smart enough to cut New Yorkers from the top positions, at least post-Roosevelts. our most recent president was a New Yorker lol
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Apr 5, 2022 04:54
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Spergin Morlock posted:our most recent president was a New Yorker lol And he wasn’t from the political establishment!
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Apr 5, 2022 05:07
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SorePotato posted:Even bumbling Shanghai can just up and test every person in a day terrible compared to what?
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Apr 5, 2022 06:27
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Maximo Roboto posted:And he wasn’t from the political establishment! And the turd has moved to Florida so we don't has to associate with him anymore. Dem also make sure Crumo is not running for president next round so I can see the anti-New York deep state at work. I also don't see the New York, Shanghai city comparison btw. The kind of characters you meet in NY subway, you don't see in Shanghai. NY style is from a colder climate.
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Apr 5, 2022 10:13
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Same thing with Beijing and Los Angeles. I feel as if Beijingers are too uptight compared to your average laid back Angelino.
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Apr 5, 2022 10:20
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no american city compares to shanghai because you can actually afford to live there, they don't have tent cities full of mentally ill homeless people everywhere, and you don't have to fear either crime or jackbooted pigs.
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Apr 5, 2022 10:55
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