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Baronjutter posted:Paper thin walls and all it takes is one yappy dog to ensure no one's sleeping. Bleck posted:I think No Pet Clauses should be illegal and also are, and that should never change. That being said, everyone that lives in an apartment with a dog That Barks A Lot can suck deeply from my rear end. The solution is to kidnap the yappy dog and raise it as your own
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Apr 5, 2022 04:48
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Raenir Salazar posted:Why are so many apartments for rent "NO PETS!" What did they do to wrong you!? I am literally looking for apartments right now and it's so frustrating that so many are NO PETS! Always in caps. I understand a little as the apartment above where I am living now the landlord is literally pulling up the floorboards from dog piss and needing to redo everything, but the tenants were delinquent on payments and effectively squatting. (they also like, hated that dog and it barked when they weren't around, and they yelled at it when they were  )My two aged cats are so gentle and make no smell or mess, just let me rent the apartment!
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Apr 5, 2022 06:40
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As long as it's not illegal there will be No Pets clauses because there's only upside. Zero risk of having to deal with repairing damage. Zero risk of having to deal with pet noise complaints. And it's not like you have to worry about not finding tenants. It kind of doesn't even make sense to not put the clause if you can. I believe the remaining problem is that even in places like Ontario or Vancouver where they've banned those clauses by landlords, the apartment building itself can still ban pets if they want to.
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Apr 5, 2022 13:52
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Raenir Salazar posted:Why are so many apartments for rent "NO PETS!" What did they do to wrong you!? A friend of mine came home from work one day and found two snakes in her bathtub and another behind the toilet. This sounds like a horror movie to most people but she's a vet. She was more worried about the snakes than anything else and it turns out the guy upstairs who was keeping them wasn't treating them very well anyway.
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Apr 5, 2022 14:01
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My friend had a basement apartment with three big dogs upstairs. When they started running and sliding around on hardwood floors it sounded like it was raining rocks lmao. She didn’t seem to mind but I would’ve had to move, and I have a pretty high tolerance for noise.Fidelitious posted:I believe the remaining problem is that even in places like Ontario or Vancouver where they've banned those clauses by landlords, the apartment building itself can still ban pets if they want to. IANAL but in ON all no pets clauses are void. They can say there’s a no pets policy but they can’t enforce it or evict you for violating the clause, regardless of whether it’s an apartment building. I wouldn’t admit to lying on a rental application but the standard practice is to say you changed your mind, assuming you don’t mind having an antagonistic relationship with your landlord. Starks fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Apr 5, 2022 |
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Apr 5, 2022 14:47
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In my experience, "No Pets" buildings tended to be fine with caged birds, fish and cats, it was usually more dogs they tended to worry about. Usually but not always.
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Apr 5, 2022 14:57
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Starks posted:IANAL but in ON all no pets clauses are void. They can say there’s a no pets policy but they can’t enforce it or evict you for violating the clause, regardless of whether it’s an apartment building. Not sure about purpose built apartment buildings but condo corps are allowed to have no pets clauses. There's a fairly small niche where it's allowed and enforceable, so you'd need to do some reading if you're planning on renting a condo, but I remember looking into that when I moved into one a while back and yeah if the clause is legit and you're found in violation, they're fully within their right to levy fines against the homeowner, which is probably a good way to have said homeowner suddenly need the condo for their personal use.
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Apr 5, 2022 15:02
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There can also be restrictions on pets if they would interfere with other tenants or owners. So a landlord can’t say no pets in their building, but you can get into a lot of poo poo if your dog barks at all hours and keeps everyone awake.
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Apr 5, 2022 15:29
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ChickenWing posted:Not sure about purpose built apartment buildings but condo corps are allowed to have no pets clauses. There's a fairly small niche where it's allowed and enforceable, so you'd need to do some reading if you're planning on renting a condo, but I remember looking into that when I moved into one a while back and yeah if the clause is legit and you're found in violation, they're fully within their right to levy fines against the homeowner, which is probably a good way to have said homeowner suddenly need the condo for their personal use. Yeah, this is the no pets "loophole" (at least in Ont). Landlord can't require it, but the condo corporation can and as a resident in the condo, you're bound to the condo rules. It's been tested a few times in court and the condo corp has won each time - rough premise is that you're a partial owner of the building and you all agree to live by the same set of rules in your building. Note that the pet restriction must be written into the condo bylaws. Whereas an apartment building has a singular owner and knows that tenants might have pets and don't give a poo poo about the other tenants. 
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Apr 5, 2022 16:46
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I wish we just had an over-abundance of housing options so buildings could easily have rules that suited everyone and enough for everyone to choose from.
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Apr 5, 2022 18:01
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In fun news, some ladies in Saskatoon started a really obvious ponzi scheme that not only had the benefit of ripping off investors, but also creating a giant bubble in Saskatoon's low-income housing market: https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/failed-saskatoon-real-estate-company-was-using-new-money-to-pay-old-money-lawyer-1.5848048 quote:Epic Alliance was founded in 2013 by Rochelle Laflamme and Alisa Thompson. It quickly evolved into various other companies such as Epic Alliance Electrical, Epic Accounting and Bookkeeping, Epic Alliance Real Estate, Epic Holdings and EA Properties Inc. It had 118 employees at the time of its demise. I have 0 sympathy for these people. The business model of the company was to buy up single-family homes in Saskatoon's core neighbourhoods, and then rent them out to the people they had priced out of the market. It's basically people from B.C., upset about what foreign ownership has done to the housing market in the Vancouver area, decided to do the same thing to Saskatoon. These poor people are now stuck with the terrifying responsibility of being landlords for the properties that they bought. It'll be interesting to see what happens to Saskatoon's housing market if 500 small single family homes come up for sale at once. bub spank fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Apr 5, 2022 |
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Apr 5, 2022 18:14
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Randalor posted:In my experience, "No Pets" buildings tended to be fine with caged birds, fish and cats, it was usually more dogs they tended to worry about. Usually but not always. I had to provide references from a past landlord that my cats were not the kind to destroy the trim and piss all over the walls. So it can include cats as well, for sure.
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Apr 5, 2022 18:24
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bub spank posted:In fun news, some ladies in Saskatoon started a really obvious ponzi scheme that not only had the benefit of ripping off investors, but also creating a giant bubble in Saskatoon's low-income housing market: Clearly supply is the problem. We should get rid of red tape and nimbys
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Apr 5, 2022 18:47
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Noblesse Obliged posted:Clearly supply is the problem. We should get rid of red tape and nimbys We should just get rid of humans tbh.
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Apr 5, 2022 19:30
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Writing the draft for a scifi movie where cats and dogs have replaced humans as dominant species and all the cat landlords have a 'No Humans' clause
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Apr 5, 2022 19:36
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bub spank posted:I have 0 sympathy for these people. There's no way that the people involved didn't realize that something sketchy was going on and it follows that they then also didn't give a poo poo because they saw a potential way to personally profit so I hope they get hosed.
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Apr 5, 2022 19:38
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Had new folks come in my building with a dog that was just barking constant. Left them a note I was worried they were dead and would have to call in a welfare check tomorrow morning if still going. Obviously I don't like to get involved with cops, but it was kinda concerning. They fixed it and I talked with them later. Doggo just had surgery and was in pain and sad when they were gone. It's all good now.
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Apr 5, 2022 19:52
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Stanley Pain posted:We should just get rid of humans tbh. We are working on it. Haven't you heard of current COVID plan: "Everything back to normal"?
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Apr 5, 2022 19:56
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Indolent Bastard posted:We are working on it. Haven't you heard of current COVID plan: "Everything back to normal"? Yup
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Apr 5, 2022 19:57
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bub spank posted:In fun news, some ladies in Saskatoon started a really obvious ponzi scheme that not only had the benefit of ripping off investors, but also creating a giant bubble in Saskatoon's low-income housing market: Protip: It was those same people in BC that priced each other out of the BC property market, by doing this exact same thing. These were just the ones too late to the party to get in on anything but shoe box condos in BC.
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Apr 5, 2022 20:07
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bub spank posted:In fun news, some ladies in Saskatoon started a really obvious ponzi scheme that not only had the benefit of ripping off investors, but also creating a giant bubble in Saskatoon's low-income housing market: Unlike crypto, there's probably things you can seize and sell to get something back for the victims Also upon further reading: lol no such thing as free money Isentropy fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 5, 2022 |
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Apr 5, 2022 20:12
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Pet chat, I've seen restrictions on aquarium sizes for apartments, but that just seems to be a bit of reasonable risk limiting. Like a pet deposit. But, I also understand the greedheads doing the greed thing, like those caught up in the Sask Ponzi scheme. It's tougher to scam the honest and non greedy.
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Apr 6, 2022 01:07
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BRB, installing a 20,000 gallon reef setup in my 25th floor apartment.
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Apr 6, 2022 01:56
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McGavin posted:BRB, installing a 20,000 gallon reef setup in my 25th floor apartment. Just fill your balcony with water and put fish in it. they can't ding you for outdoor fish. 
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Apr 6, 2022 02:04
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That probably needs to also go into the OSHA thread maybe? Imagine one of those panels giving way. 
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Apr 6, 2022 02:09
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It was, ages ago. I think we figured out there could be as much as 2000kg of water there. which is like 1950kg more than Modern condo balconies are designed for.
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Apr 6, 2022 02:17
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B33rChiller posted:Pet chat, I've seen restrictions on aquarium sizes for apartments, but that just seems to be a bit of reasonable risk limiting. Like a pet deposit. But, I also understand the greedheads doing the greed thing, like those caught up in the Sask Ponzi scheme. It's tougher to scam the honest and non greedy. It's totally a problem with the market, though. When demand is loving insane, you can limit risk to an arbitrary degree because you'll always find tenants. The answer isn't relaxing development standards; it's making somewhere other than the lower mainland and the GTA desirable to live in. I mean, look at the sheer amount of middling cities in the US that wouldn't loving suck to live in, and you'd be able to find a job. Or, similarly, in Spain or in Germany or in Japan or any number of other first-world countries. We need to develop that here, because honestly we don't have it right now for most people. We have next to no actual constraints on the availability of land but for the fact that everyone wants to live in the same two metro areas (add in Calgary if you're in resources).
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Apr 6, 2022 02:32
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PT6A posted:It's totally a problem with the market, though. When demand is loving insane, you can limit risk to an arbitrary degree because you'll always find tenants. I grew up in Kitchener. I won't be able to afford to live here. I don't want to live in those other places, but the backsplash from the Toronto market is loving us over, when it is over 100 km away. This market is hosed and the government does nothing to properly fix it.
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Apr 6, 2022 02:59
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MatchaZed posted:I grew up in Kitchener. I won't be able to afford to live here. I don't want to live in those other places, but the backsplash from the Toronto market is loving us over, when it is over 100 km away. This market is hosed and the government does nothing to properly fix it. Yeah, it's insane; it's not workable, it can't form the basis of a functional society. We need people from around the country and indeed from around the world to think things like "Regina? Winnipeg? Lethbridge? Fredericton? Sure, those sound like nice places I wouldn't loving hate to live, and I think I could make a living there." But, no, we have these two massive black holes drawing all the investment and industry, and everyone's miserable as a result. You think the capitalists love it? Unless they're specifically involved in real estate, they don't. They can't find employees at a reasonable salary because everyone's like "gently caress you I can't afford to live in Vancouver for that." They wish they didn't have to be based there too!
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Apr 6, 2022 03:47
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Our place allows for cats but not dogs which is totally unfair because dogs are the best. That being said we just got a kitten and the kitten wants everyone to know that cats are the best. My dad's complex used to allow for dogs but one too many barking late at night dogs and they have now said no dogs allowed. However all those late night barking dogs have been grandfathered in so the barking continues.
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Apr 6, 2022 03:52
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PT6A posted:I mean, look at the sheer amount of middling cities in the US that wouldn't loving suck to live in, I'm going to have to stop you right there because there is no such thing, unless you have enough cash to live comfortably anywhere in the world in which case why are you flipping a coin to choose between Boise and Des Moines?
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Apr 6, 2022 04:07
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The other problem is that a lot of places have size restrictions on dogs and I really think it's counterproductive. The vast majority of big dogs are very chill, unless you specifically train them to be otherwise. Small dogs are frequently loud assholes, and frequently aggressive, it's just that they can't do any damage because they're tiny so people put up with lovely behaviour. Great Dane? Wonderful apartment dog, chill as gently caress, not a lot of pent-up energy and barking. Pom? Dumb as poo poo, barking all the loving time, bites anything it can get it's tiny, stupid mouth around.
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Apr 6, 2022 04:07
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eXXon posted:I'm going to have to stop you right there because there is no such thing, unless you have enough cash to live comfortably anywhere in the world in which case why are you flipping a coin to choose between Boise and Des Moines? Well, yeah, I can see that. But I feel like someone being told "yeah, your job is going to transfer you to Minneapolis" is probably going to be met with less consternation than "you're being transferred to Thunder Bay." To make another comparison: you know why CBC doesn't make a Canadian version of Escape to the Country? Because everyone would eventually figure out it's the Okanagan every loving time, because there's no other semi-rural place you'd willingly put up with. Maybe 1 out of 10 episodes could be "cottage country" in Ontario, and another 1 out of 10 might be somewhere on the east coast where the primary industry is Anne of Green Gables.
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Apr 6, 2022 04:16
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The Calgary Police Service is throwing a tantrum about being told to remove their stupid, lovely Thin Blue Line patches, and the chief is trying to delay the implementation of the new rule which was decided by the civilian overseers. Why do we put up with this poo poo? "Oh, police morale is at an all time low  " Good, it loving should be. People are pissed off because you're loving useless, racist assholes who've protected the white supremacist anti-vaxx pieces of garbage who've befouled our city for two years. I bet if the police weren't racist, useless assholes, no one would give the furry crack of a rat's rear end what the gently caress you wear on your uniform! Maybe do something about that first, instead of whining about civilian oversight.
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Apr 6, 2022 15:21
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but they say it's about remembering the fallen YOU WOULDN'T DISREPECT ARE FALLIN TROUPS WOOD YOU It doesn't matter what nonsense meaning they say they've ascribed to the symbol after-the-fact. The black band over the badge is what you wear to commemorate the fallen. The TBL patch is what you wear to demonstrate your commitment to killology and white nationalism in policing. You assholes wanna play soldier, fine: Follow your loving orders.
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Apr 6, 2022 15:39
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It's amazing how every other dangerous profession manages to remember those who've lost their lives without using symbols of white supremacy. Really makes you think...
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Apr 6, 2022 15:44
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flakeloaf posted:but they say it's about remembering the fallen YOU WOULDN'T DISREPECT ARE FALLIN TROUPS WOOD YOU The fallen? As in your wives who have “fallen”down the stairs?
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Apr 6, 2022 15:48
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The thing I find really odd about the situation is the lack of introspection on the part of the cops as to why so many people hate them. No one likes crime. Literally no one thinks, "hey, you know what would be great? more crimes!" The concept of a group of people who exist to prevent crime and punish wrongdoers is an inherently positive thing for 99% of humanity. If you start from that concept, and end up at a place where people hate you and call you bastards all the time... it's probably a structural problem that needs to be addressed.
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Apr 6, 2022 15:55
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PT6A posted:it's probably a structural problem that needs to be addressed. One of the many lessons out of Ottawa this year was that reform is for all intents and purposes impossible. Even in the exceedingly unlikely situation that you get someone in a leadership position who is dedicated to reform, the lower brass and rank and file will absolutely frag them the very first opportunity they are given, to prevent them from implementing their agenda. Sloly was a lesson to everyone re: exactly what will happen to you and your career if you show up talking about the structural problems that need to be addressed. I too believed reform was possible, and it plainly is not.
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Apr 6, 2022 16:09
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Sloly hosed himself on his way in the door by calling out the OPS for systemic racism, without clarifying that a systemically racist system doesn't necessarily mean a plurality of the people in it are racist (even though they demonstrably are), and by citing a report that didn't actually prove the thing he was claiming because the one that would've proved it hadn't been published yet. Throw in some loud reformer talk and yeah you've got a great guide on how no tot take command and have people do what you say. Every time he was in front of a camera, or addressing the public, he stepped on his dick. Literally every single time. This is entirely separate and apart from the impossibility of reforming a police agency in situ, which the Knapp Commission proved before these twits were born.
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Apr 6, 2022 16:24
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