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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

Dublin is asymptotically approaching a state of infinite hotel rooms, and yes it's hosed the housing market
This is what happens when you just allow people to go around scrawling new dimensions on your bridges.

e: 1998 was sometime after the End of History so nobody knows what happened here other than it did Not Come Home again.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Apr 5, 2022

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

SixFigureSandwich posted:

I'm not a fancy math person but surely if your infinite rooms are all full then you are already housing infinite people, and it would not be possible for more people to arrive?

To follow on from Guav's reply, if you start counting from 1 you can do so infinitely. But you know the starting number.

What about every single number between 1 and 2? Because you can't start with 1.1, because 1.01 is smaller, and 1.001 is even smaller, and 1.0001, etc. etc.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Wondering how many people who rushed to buy over-priced rural properties that require oil deliveries for their hot water and heating are now regretting it!

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Tesseraction posted:

To follow on from Guav's reply, if you start counting from 1 you can do so infinitely. But you know the starting number.

What about every single number between 1 and 2? Because you can't start with 1.1, because 1.01 is smaller, and 1.001 is even smaller, and 1.0001, etc. etc.

I blame Zeno.

And this is why the tortoise won the race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQSgf3_5KBk

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Apr 5, 2022

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Wondering how many people who rushed to buy over-priced rural properties that require oil deliveries for their hot water and heating are now regretting it!

Our place wasn’t overpriced, but our heating bill effectively tripling since we bought the place has been a loving kick in the teeth, yes.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:

This is what happens when you just allow people to go around scrawling new dimensions on your bridges.




If you spot this guy lurking with a penknife, alert the proper authorities before poo poo gets non-Newtonian

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Wondering how many people who rushed to buy over-priced rural properties that require oil deliveries for their hot water and heating are now regretting it!

Not rural but the rest checks out:

https://twitter.com/IrishMirror/status/1511251755878830084?t=ytpPm3N7lwByF87OV4ZS3g&s=19

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Camrath posted:

Our place wasn’t overpriced, but our heating bill effectively tripling since we bought the place has been a loving kick in the teeth, yes.

My mum finally managed to sell her rural home in November. She's currently living at a friend's who is away most of the week until she gets a new place. But her bill would have rocketed over £1500 or more (per winter quarter). She did have a wood-burner stove but she'd have had to camp in one room basically.

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

Failed Imagineer posted:

Dublin is asymptotically approaching a state of infinite hotel rooms, and yes it's hosed the housing market

Finally Georg Cantor can get vindication!

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
God, imagine the wait for the lifts in the infinite hotel

Or are there infinite lifts?


E: is there an infinity pool :dadjoke:

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

This all sounds like a great way to generate an infinite number of negative reviews on Tripadvisor from guests who are fed up at being woken in the middle of the night and told to move all their stuff yet again because of the hotel manager’s poor planning

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

The infinite lifts will have to move infinitely fast to get you to your infinite floor, which is good, but unfortunately they're going to have to stop at every floor while all the occupants move one lift car to the right, otherwise you'll never get a free one.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

TACD posted:

This all sounds like a great way to generate an infinite number of negative reviews on Tripadvisor from guests who are fed up at being woken in the middle of the night and told to move all their stuff yet again because of the hotel manager’s poor planning

Don't worry they'll be balanced out by the infinite positive reviews from guests who really really liked the all you can eat buffet.

Infinite Hotel, 2.5 stars.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Infinite Hotel, 2.5 stars.

Only if both those infinite groups have the same cardinality :colbert:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Don't worry they'll be balanced out by the infinite positive reviews from guests who really really liked the all you can eat buffet.

Infinite Hotel, 2.5 stars.

If you have infinity 5 star reviews then the average score is infinity/infinity*5 which is zero.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


goddamnedtwisto posted:

If you have infinity 5 star reviews then the average score is infinity/infinity*5 which is zero.
Nah you can't just sub infinity for a number like that, it's the limit as x tends to infinity of 5x/x, which is 5

I'm starting to think you're not taking the concept of infinite hotel rooms seriously

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Infinite hotel room problems were common as part of our applied maths units at uni, so can confirm infinite hotel rooms are serious math.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'm going to steal an uncountable set of towels.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Hotel towels have infinite thinness, so you'll end up with precisely one towel (maybe)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Borrovan posted:

I'm starting to think you're not taking the concept of infinite hotel rooms seriously

I refuse to acknowledge the existence of any mathematics more advanced than that required to put on an 8-match accumulator.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Failed Imagineer posted:

Hotel towels have infinite thinness, so you'll end up with precisely one towel (maybe)

Only if you stack an infinite amount in one pile.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I refuse to acknowledge the existence of any mathematics more advanced than that required to put on an 8-match accumulator.

They have played us for absolute fools

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Guavanaut posted:

I'm going to steal an uncountable set of towels.

I think you'll have to settle for an uncountable set of towel.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Tell them to wait until the end of year, I hear they're getting a lot of coal for Christmas! :dadjoke:

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
that useless tosser has been leader of the opposition for 2 years and one day now lol

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

DesperateDan posted:

oh come on its not like she gassed bunnies then cut them up for kicks


oh wait a minute


This is, unsurprisingly, complete bullshit.


https://twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1511086611504709636

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/CouncilCulture/status/1511347585344286732

Found myself digging through the archive.org computer magazine collection again (I know, my life is a whirl) and my eye was caught by this 1985 advert for Microlink, a Prestel-like system somewhat strangely run by BT subsidiary Telecom Gold in direct competition with the BT Prestel system.

For conversion to modern 2022 Royal Mint NFT prices basically quadruple the prices there. Also consider the cheapest modem listed in that same mag is a 2kbps model which would cost you about £450 in today's money.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
tbf half of that was Telex, which still charged odd geographical and character rates in the 2000s, when the only people who still bothered with it were banks and probably some embassy somewhere.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

This thread has an infinite number of nerds.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

tbf half of that was Telex, which still charged odd geographical and character rates in the 2000s, when the only people who still bothered with it were banks and probably some embassy somewhere.

There are separate (and rather higher) charges for telex there in the list, but they were still charging per-mail (although AFAIK takeup of this system outside the UK was extremely low). It really is quite a nice scam because even if they were doing it the most expensive way possible (analogue modem over international lines) it would still only cost them about 25p to send over a hundred 2k mails.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Miftan posted:

This thread has an infinite number of nerds.

Don't worry they all moved up one for you.

Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said
Sorry to break in with a random request but wondering if some of the folks in this thread might be able to point me in the right direction.

Can anyone recommend a legal representative / advisor for a Public Nuisance charge related to a protest. Rather not go into detail but a friend is currently intending to represent themselves which seems foolhardy in the extreme to me as it's an unlimited fine and/or custodial sentence of up to 5 years. Free / pro bono type would be ideal but all options considered, cheers.

DM me please, prefer not to discuss as they don't know I've posted here. Thanks.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


NotJustANumber99 posted:

Don't worry they all moved up one for you.
lol

e: I actually can Rusty but it's been so long I can't remember where I keep their details, PM me later

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

https://twitter.com/CouncilCulture/status/1511347585344286732

Found myself digging through the archive.org computer magazine collection again (I know, my life is a whirl) and my eye was caught by this 1985 advert for Microlink, a Prestel-like system somewhat strangely run by BT subsidiary Telecom Gold in direct competition with the BT Prestel system.

For conversion to modern 2022 Royal Mint NFT prices basically quadruple the prices there. Also consider the cheapest modem listed in that same mag is a 2kbps model which would cost you about £450 in today's money.

Back in days of yore (1997) when I first got the internet, it used to cost me over £50 a month for (a) the privilege of an aol connection which IIRC was £17.99 pm + (b) the cost of dialling in (local call numbers) using my 33kbps modem which upgraded a few months later to 56kbps (and the pain of spending all night downloading a 130MB file only for some idiot to phone me at 7am and cut the connection 1MB before the end and lose the whole thing. I digress.) I still considered it an essential spend to get with the modern world!

Around 1999/2000 when broadband first started being a thing for domestic customers, I got free broadband off AOL for being one of their board hosts (more or less a moderator) subject to a minimum commitment of 3h per week. I remember when they put me on the Manchester United board OMG I hate football!

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Back in days of yore (1997) when I first got the internet, it used to cost me over £50 a month for (a) the privilege of an aol connection which IIRC was £17.99 pm + (b) the cost of dialling in (local call numbers) using my 33kbps modem which upgraded a few months later to 56kbps (and the pain of spending all night downloading a 130MB file only for some idiot to phone me at 7am and cut the connection 1MB before the end and lose the whole thing. I digress.) I still considered it an essential spend to get with the modern world!

Around 1999/2000 when broadband first started being a thing for domestic customers, I got free broadband off AOL for being one of their board hosts (more or less a moderator) subject to a minimum commitment of 3h per week. I remember when they put me on the Manchester United board OMG I hate football!

When the broadband rollout started happening I was allowed onto the trial at cost price because I was working at an ISP. 70 quid a month for a megabit (retail price - £300) and I thought that was a *screaming* deal as my 0845 charges were somewhere north of £200 p/m. The company I worked for charged £15 a month on top of the 0845 charges too.

Also I'd have thought hating football would be the perfect qualification for a mod on a Man U board.

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Around 1998-1998 the Cult of the Dead Cow released a piece of software that scanned IP ranges for malicious code installed on people's PCs, which allowed you to completely take over and access their PC.

One of the features of this was that it displayed in plain text all the usernames and passwords currently saved on that machine.

Now someone unscrupulous could scan the IP range of the ISP they were using at the time and discover the login details for their online accounts, thus bypassing the usage and monthly fees.

I of course never ever did this.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
Really cool how these schools are charities so this will be generously topped up with £25k of public money directly to Winchester and another massive tax refund back to Rishi.

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1511372738782445582?s=20

peanut- fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Apr 5, 2022

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Tsietisin posted:

Around 1998-1998 the Cult of the Dead Cow released a piece of software that scanned IP ranges for malicious code installed on people's PCs, which allowed you to completely take over and access their PC.

One of the features of this was that it displayed in plain text all the usernames and passwords currently saved on that machine.

Now someone unscrupulous could scan the IP range of the ISP they were using at the time and discover the login details for their online accounts, thus bypassing the usage and monthly fees.

I of course never ever did this.
I remember a going through a fun period of baiting internet randoms into installing Sub7 and then just poking around their machines for stupid teenage shits and giggles

Until one day I came across a load of child porn on somebody's machine and kind of went off the whole thing.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

TACD posted:

I remember a going through a fun period of baiting internet randoms into installing Sub7 and then just poking around their machines for stupid teenage shits and giggles

Until one day I came across a load of child porn on somebody's machine and kind of went off the whole thing.

One time I visited my parents and my 14 year old nephew had been using my dad's computer as he didn't have access to one at home.
So I looked into the 'history' (nephew wasn't aware of things like that 20 odd years ago) and found various sites listed such as 'asian babes with big boobs'.

I had a stern word with him because my dad was the exact sort of person who would have taken his computer to a repair shop and with his then 'position in local society' it would have definitely made the front of the local paper or even the front of South Wales Argus or similar and the poor old stick would have been completely flummoxed about how that stuff got on there (he was the sort of person who had one password for absolutely everything and couldn't understand why it was important not to share it - let alone with AOL once broadband came out (pre wifi so there would be an ethernet cable straight through the internet) you could completely bypass the AOL interface but could go straight through via IE, Netscape or whatever was around at the time.

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
We got dialup when I was 12(?), I immediately surfed to "http://www.playboy.com" to take a look. 10 mins later my brother explained to me what History was and slagged me mercilessly, lesson was effective

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