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make more movies where a bunch of shaolin masters have to defend their secret techniques from a team of perfidious ninjas
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kung fu is stupid though
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loquacius posted:Marvel movies are so good that they have convinced all of Western society at large that movies where people aren't constantly saying cheesy poo poo and then looking directly at the camera to say "that was cheesy and I feel foolish for having said it" are boring and for old people im not convinced anyone outside of a certain very loud and obnoxious class of millennial aged marvel otakus actually believes this considering how much big growth theres been lately for international stuff and weird genre shows like yellowstone that receive almost no press coverage commensurate with what the metrics say about their actual importance i mean hell even the popularity of tiktok and youtubing suggests that the younglings who are the alleged target audience for this crap are relatively indifferent to this self awareness garbage and are perfectly happy just watching people do stupid dances entirely sincerely
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Apr 5, 2022 20:50
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while playing soccer
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Some Guy TT posted:i like how everyone does jim from the office face now except for the actual jim from the office because he desperately wants people to take him seriously There was a period about three or four seasons into The Office, where every loving commercial was effectively a version of The Office. It's still kind of true, but it's not quite as prevalent. That show took over the language of media.
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they did make a kung fu MCU movie but I don't know if anybody watched it
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marvel movies were okay to talk about at work cause mostly everyone either has seen them or doesn't care about spoilers. and no one has really strong feelings about the characters or the events portrayed in them
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Theoretically I like self-aware humor, the problem is that what MCU dialogue is self-aware OF is bad dialogue if you write a line, and you feel compelled to immediately make the character apologize for having said it, maybe you should just admit the line is bad and delete it and try another draft. It's ok! Nobody's perfect!
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Apr 5, 2022 20:55
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I'll never watch new trek, but through the little glimpses I get from RLM it looks like the most insufferable lib poo poo ever made.
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Some Guy TT posted:im not convinced anyone outside of a certain very loud and obnoxious class of millennial aged marvel otakus actually believes this considering how much big growth theres been lately for international stuff and weird genre shows like yellowstone that receive almost no press coverage commensurate with what the metrics say about their actual importance I kind of agree with you, but I think Marvel has shown greedy movie executives the potential for massive profits if they can get a franchise handled correctly. You used to have to be resigned to a series fading out over 2-4 movies and/or needing long pauses like James Bond to give your audiences a break. Now, if you have a property with a dedicated preexisting fanbase and do it semi-competently so you can do all kinds of spinoffs, you could theoretically go from strength to strength for 7-10 films. I think a lot of people are learning that it's harder to do than you might think, but it's like stock picking. Everyone with money thinks they're the right person who can pull it off. I get why Hollywood loves it. Maybe I'd like it more too if I was of the right age instead of an old man who feels like he's seen or read all of these stories before. loquacius posted:they did make a kung fu MCU movie but I don't know if anybody watched it I think Shang Chi did pretty well, especially for a pandemic movie.
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loquacius posted:they did make a kung fu MCU movie but I don't know if anybody watched it They did but then they forgot about it
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:we need to bring back bullying this isn't even true, black panther was inexplicably nominated for best picture.
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My name is doctor octopus Hahaha no really what is your real name? Hmm??? That's so silly!!! What's your name bitch? rear end in a top hat? Mother fucker??? What is it
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Nichael posted:this isn't even true, black panther was inexplicably nominated for best picture. it solved racism
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Apr 5, 2022 20:58
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Eric Cantonese posted:I get why Hollywood loves it. Maybe I'd like it more too if I was of the right age instead of an old man who feels like he's seen or read all of these stories before. I was the right age when the MCU started but theyve been doing it for so long that mostly everyone is tired of it
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RandolphCarter posted:it solved racism thank you cia
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papa horny michael posted:while playing soccer shaolin soccer is great
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Apr 5, 2022 20:59
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StashAugustine posted:they're okay I guess but there's a lot of them and they dominate a lot of the box office, thus everyone must have the most dramatic take possible on them that makes sense
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mastershakeman posted:shaolin soccer is great the people want more!
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I think people enjoy reliable entertainment that provides predictable emotions that are not exhausting to process, especially considering how insanely stressful everything else in life is.
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:I'll never watch new trek, but through the little glimpses I get from RLM it looks like the most insufferable lib poo poo ever made. Thinking of doing a TNG rewatch soon
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Apr 5, 2022 21:04
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Anyone remember Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? That one won a ton of awards!
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I saw that in the theater, it was good
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3 episodes in and idk if Severance is "socialist" but it does offer a perspective on wage labor and its relation to capital that is similar to Marxism's
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Trixie Hardcore posted:I think people enjoy reliable entertainment that provides predictable emotions that are not exhausting to process, especially considering how insanely stressful everything else in life is. yes and I love a McDouble but I will never assert that it is the height of cuisine and what all chefs should strive to achieve
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indigi posted:yes and I love a McDouble but I will never assert that it is the height of cuisine and what all chefs should strive to achieve snob! elitist!! give mcdonald's a james beard award!!!
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I still haven't seen Shaolin Soccer but I fuckin loved Kung Fu Hustle so I probably shouldTrixie Hardcore posted:I think people enjoy reliable entertainment that provides predictable emotions that are not exhausting to process, especially considering how insanely stressful everything else in life is. They don't even have good effects or fight choreography though like I'm not saying everything has to be Oscar bait or whatever, Fast movies and John Wick movies are fun, and especially now that I have a kid I can even appreciate non-MCU Disney movies (ask me about how many consecutive days I have had the Encanto soundtrack either stuck in my head or literally playing in my house) but MCU movies are not good at anything and I find it annoying that we're stuck with them dominating pop-culture for at least another decade
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:I'll never watch new trek, but through the little glimpses I get from RLM it looks like the most insufferable lib poo poo ever made. One could argue that was always the case with Star Trek but the new stuff does the same thing that marvel stuff does, they'll point out the problem that exists in real life and then the story isn't about that really it's about punching something or a mcguffin or someone is traumatized somehow There's no real social commentary just "not we mentioned a real issue and showed you a lesbian couple, now leave us alone and make another 32 minute YouTube breakdown of the starships in the background of a few shots" It's particularly frustrating because they know enough to constantly reference all the stories that used to do the allegory thing but they won't do it themselves because the people making it now are too clueless or don't care because they are making money off the Funko Pop crowd I hope one day I can stop giving a poo poo
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indigi posted:yes and I love a McDouble but I will never assert that it is the height of cuisine and what all chefs should strive to achieve lol I forgot we were talking about those nerds wanting movies they like to get awards not just about what is good
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:snob! elitist!! give mcdonald's a james beard award!!! give them a Michelin star
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yeah, the beard awards are worthless. my city has like eight of them. terrible restaurants
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there'll always be a place for dumb easy popcorn flicks but the general formula for them is supposed to change every once in a while and it should have happened for superhero poo poo by now and it keeps not happening like in the late 80s they were all "renegade cop fights terrorist or drug cartel or something" McBain poo poo but people got tired of that by the mid-90s or so in favor of Matrix-style Hot Topic sci-fi-lite and then we got nothing but superhero poo poo for like twenty years
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there was an episode of star trek ds9 playing on a flight and the episode ended with a really dramatic monologue about something like killing an innocent guy for the greater good and the captain admitted to himself that he would? idk it was very theatrical, kinda fun the next episode was about some really ugly guy with skin problems getting dating advice from a 1960s crooner hologram or something
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loquacius posted:They don't even have good effects or fight choreography though Winter Soldier and Civil War have phenomenal fight choreography (particularly the hand to hand stuff, the batrle royal in CW was just above average) but in general you're correct, it's very uninspired and lazy. Spider-Man Far From Home was good too but that was an accident judging by Homecoming and Homes On Infinite Earth's
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indigi posted:3 episodes in and idk if Severance is "socialist" but it does offer a perspective on wage labor and its relation to capital that is similar to Marxism's yeah I'm not sure what to think not having seen the finale. if I had to choose between a comfortable middle-class hell or the hell I already live every day in humiliating poverty and bottom-tier jobs, I'd be slinging scary numbers into boxes before you could ask me who I am
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ymgve posted:Anyone remember Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? That one won a ton of awards! I enjoyed it a lot, but I have yet to meet anyone from the People's Republic of China who liked it. The main complaints I heard were that didn't like Ang Lee's style and that the story was boring and the flying wushu fight choreography was apparently "no big deal" because "all it takes is being attached to some wires." Basically, you can find boorish people everywhere.
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indigi posted:Winter Soldier and Civil War have phenomenal fight choreography (particularly the hand to hand stuff, the batrle royal in CW was just above average) but in general you're correct, it's very uninspired and lazy. Spider-Man Far From Home was good too but that was an accident judging by Homecoming and Homes On Infinite Earth's Yeah I think sometime around Civil War is when I finally lost patience with the MCU; pre-Trump-era they hadn't quite worn out their welcome yet I vaguely remember the original Iron Man movies being good too but maybe I was just young and dumb By 2022 we're approaching farce and yet the profits and general obsession keep ramping ever higher
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Eric Cantonese posted:I enjoyed it a lot, but I have yet to meet anyone from the People's Republic of China who liked it. hot take: CTHD's story WAS boring; I haven't seen it in forever but I definitely remember waiting impatiently for someone to stand on a sword again
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indigi posted:3 episodes in and idk if Severance is "socialist" but it does offer a perspective on wage labor and its relation to capital that is similar to Marxism's I like the satire with the one worker who gets addicted to the worthless rewards (they get erasers but don't have pencils) and the one worker who is super into the company culture and is a rules lawyer and tattletale.
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internet criticism of the mcu often feels as formulaic as the movies themselves. admittedly, there's not much there there, so there's not many productive avenues of discussion to go down, but the constant complaints about the dialogue, lovely lighting, and cia propaganda remind me a lot of how everybody just parroted the RLM reviews of the star wars prequels any time the topic came up now, of course, we all love the prequels, so i hope you're ready for phase 1 MCU movies to be re-evaluated as hidden gems in 10 years
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