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Despera posted:nobody want to debate that chinas covid deaths might be underreported? didnt think its inflame so much hate ok what sources do you have
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Apr 7, 2022 04:05
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FrancisFukyomama posted:the thing about Covid zero is that if there is if you remove Covid from a place there will be no more deaths until Covid comes back the chinese goverments somewhat unbelievable claims of zero deaths in a year
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Apr 7, 2022 04:09
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FrancisFukyomama posted:the thing about Covid zero is that if there is if you remove Covid from a place there will be no more deaths until Covid comes back the chinese goverments somewhat unbelievable claims of zero deaths in a year
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Apr 7, 2022 04:09
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I can believe the number is way higher than 4k but its weird that they would go to such extreme measures right now if the virus was secretly endemic in the country
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Apr 7, 2022 04:10
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“I don’t have proof but I know the inscrutable celestial is a born liar”
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Apr 7, 2022 04:10
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Despera posted:the chinese goverments somewhat unbelievable claims of zero deaths in a year Fact-check: quote:China reported... two COVID deaths for all of 2021
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Apr 7, 2022 04:12
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China just counts the people who died OF covid, while the stupid westerners count the people who died WITH covid.
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Apr 7, 2022 04:12
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Raskolnikov38 posted:“I don’t have proof but I know the inscrutable celestial is a born liar” The hilarious thing is if you take this at face value, wholly true--uh so europeans are trustworthy? 
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Apr 7, 2022 04:13
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Raskolnikov38 posted:“I don’t have proof but I know the inscrutable celestial is a born liar” extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. my claim of more than 0 people dying of covid is less extraordinary than the chinese claim of 0 no?
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Apr 7, 2022 04:14
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Flavahbeast posted:I can believe the number is way higher than 4k but its weird that they would go to such extreme measures right now if the virus was secretly endemic in the country Don't you get it? COVID was rampaging through China secretly and now all of the work they did to prevent COVID rampaging through is falling apart.
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Apr 7, 2022 04:15
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well no because a. they actually took Covid seriously instead of the festering shithole that is the west b. they said they had 2 in the previous year
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Apr 7, 2022 04:15
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Raskolnikov38 posted:well no because if you honestly believe that ok
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Apr 7, 2022 04:16
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Despera posted:extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. my claim of more than 0 people dying of covid is less extraordinary than the chinese claim of 0 no? no
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Apr 7, 2022 04:16
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gradenko_2000 posted:Fact-check: from what I read, those deaths happened in Jan, and "in a year" is counting feb 21 to feb 22
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Apr 7, 2022 04:17
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Despera posted:if you honestly believe that ok again what are your sources for believing otherwise
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Apr 7, 2022 04:17
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Despera posted:extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. my claim of more than 0 people dying of covid is less extraordinary than the chinese claim of 0 no? Your claim of zero is less credible than their claim of two
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Apr 7, 2022 04:17
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Homeless Friend posted:lol china breaking minds ftw he’s had poo poo for brains for years already this isn’t new
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Apr 7, 2022 04:21
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China pretty much doesn’t break out the NPIs unless there’s official confirmation of an outbreak, so when there isn’t people are walking around unmasked and going to concerts. how would a secret outbreak be stopped at the point that the deaths are low enough to be covered up without even basic measures like masking? the rate at which Covid spreads, an outbreak in an area with the relaxed measures would balloon into thousands of cases within days and hospitals stretched to their breaking point, and be impossible to cover up. the only kinds of outbreaks small enough that they can be covered up are ones that are instantly hit with proactive NPIs, which also can’t be covered up
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Apr 7, 2022 04:27
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FrancisFukyomama posted:China pretty much doesn’t break out the NPIs unless there’s official confirmation of an outbreak, so when there isn’t people are walking around unmasked and going to concerts. how would a secret outbreak be stopped at the point that the deaths are low enough to be covered up without even basic measures like masking? the rate at which Covid spreads, an outbreak in an area with the relaxed measures would balloon into thousands of cases within days and hospitals stretched to their breaking point, and be impossible to cover up. the only kinds of outbreaks small enough that they can be covered up are ones that are instantly hit with proactive NPIs, which also can’t be covered up yeah but…. it’s China…. and my gut tells me they’re lieing.
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Apr 7, 2022 04:30
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Despera posted:extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence proceed with yours, then
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Apr 7, 2022 04:32
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Despera posted:nobody want to debate that chinas covid deaths might be underreported? didnt think its inflame so much hate all covid deaths underreported. just say the covid deaths are 20x in china who cares lol. its chump change
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Apr 7, 2022 04:33
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Mirello posted:It's real. They do kill your pet if you get covid, and if you're isolated they'll just have the pet starve to death. It's an awful policy that's causing a lot of controversy within china. While many people are old fashioned and see animal lives as worthless, many young people care just as much about animals as humans. I just talked to my inlaws back in my wife's hometown, of around 1m people. They recently had a lockdown of....2 days, enough time for them to PCR test everyone in the city. This is the only "lockdown" they have ever experienced, ever. The testing found zero cases. Their town has never found a single case of covid. They don't know anyone who knows anyone who's ever gotten covid. But the local government closed all schools and went to online classes for a few weeks just to be safe. They've never had any sort of mask or vaccine mandate. They ask about America and I tell them 0.5% of the population of New Jersey is loving dead and life expectancy is down by almost a decade, but ultimately who can say which country had the better approach really. I think Chinese media really downplays what a pit of covid death and random sectarian violence America really is. Don't know if your wife has ever been to America, my wife went from mildly disliking America when she arrived in 2018 to full on  now. I'm glad China makes anyone coming into the country sit in a hotel for 8 weeks or whatever now because otherwise she'd have already gone back. This is with a 5 bedroom house on a 1 acre lot beside the best public school district in the state, groceries delivered from Whole Foods every 5 days and gold plated health insurance. I can only imagine how she'd feel in a more "typical" American household.
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Apr 7, 2022 04:34
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when one splits hairs, one would hope those hairs actually make a difference/count. this is like only taking away one of the undertakers belts
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Apr 7, 2022 04:35
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Even if you believe china is lying why does it matter? If you’re in the US a 9/11 is happening everyday and the government absolutely doesn’t give a poo poo. I commend the Chinese government for handling the pandemic responsibly.
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Apr 7, 2022 04:35
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we're actually a ways away from 9/11 now. still 600 folks a day tho. a china a week, you could say
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Apr 7, 2022 04:37
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a genocide a day
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Apr 7, 2022 04:38
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Throatwarbler posted:This is with a 5 bedroom house on a 1 acre lot beside the best public school district in the state, groceries delivered from Whole Foods every 5 days and gold plated health insurance. let me hold a rack
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Apr 7, 2022 04:41
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I commend the Chinese government for handling the pandemic responsibly. 
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Apr 7, 2022 04:43
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indigi posted:ok what sources do you have source: the inscrutable Han
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Apr 7, 2022 04:46
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Flavahbeast posted:I can believe the number is way higher than 4k but its weird that they would go to such extreme measures right now if the virus was secretly endemic in the country yea do I believe it's literally 4000? Nah it's probably a good bit more. Do I believe China has handled the virus better, including coming out of it with an order of magnitude less deaths than its peers? Sure as hell do! So really the number is a bit of semantics to argue, the point is the handling.
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Apr 7, 2022 04:47
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Apr 7, 2022 04:50
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China lying about covid zero for all this time would mean that it's just spreading through the country and nobody has noticed lmao loving pissbrain
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Apr 7, 2022 04:51
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Despera posted:the chinese goverments somewhat unbelievable claims of zero deaths in a year I believe that the Chinese governments position is not that their citizens became immortal somehow, but rather that nobody died of covid specifically
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Apr 7, 2022 04:53
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I actually think it's less than 4000.
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Apr 7, 2022 05:00
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Despera posted:extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And what would you accept as evidence that China had 2 deaths in 2021
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Apr 7, 2022 05:23
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Speaking of extraordinary claims Chinese medics killed death row inmates by taking hearts: Report
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Apr 7, 2022 05:30
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You could add two zeroes on to China's COVID death count and they'd still be coming out far ahead of every Western nation on their per capita death rate.
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Apr 7, 2022 06:00
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Mantis42 posted:You could add two zeroes on to China's COVID death count and they'd still be coming out far ahead of every Western nation on their per capita death rate. they want to add more zeros than that, the fixed covid death numbers someone put out (the economist?) were calculated by saying "china's numbers are actually poportionaly the same as the western ones"
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Apr 7, 2022 06:10
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Kassad posted:Speaking of extraordinary claims These claims don't seem particularly extraordinary. "We read the writings of doctors who were tasked with harvesting organs from dead death row inmates, and it looks like they took organs after the inmate's heart stopped beating but before a coroner declared them dead" seems extremely plausible, like something that isn't supposed to happen, but not like cartoonishly evil or anything.
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Apr 7, 2022 06:16
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https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1511927493699129344?s=20&t=sNg0zDT-LrKI2K5U75A9FA DiscountDildos has issued a correction as of 06:40 on Apr 7, 2022 |
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Apr 7, 2022 06:28
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