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Hyrax Attack! posted:In a particularly ill-advised action, a Russian soldier from a chemical, biological and nuclear protection unit picked up a source of cobalt-60 at one waste storage site with his bare hands, exposing himself to so much radiation in a few seconds that it went off the scales of a Geiger counter, Mr. Simyonov said. It was not clear what happened to the man, he said. jfc I can handle a lot of unpleasant and grisly things but the slow turning into a puddle via rad death...just ole yeller me at that point. I never wish to know what hisashi ouchi had to. I understand its a lack of knowledge about what you're dealing with. But gently caress rolling the dice. *awful snipe. Radiation rightfully scares the poo poo outve me.
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The Co-60 dude probably is going to die 5-20 years sooner than he'd like, provided he doesn't die sooner of "other causes" in an active warzone, but he's not going to melt into a puddle of protoplasm. When it comes to radiation exposure I always judge it by how long it took those in the Goiânia Incident to absorb a lethal dose, even though that was Cs-137 and this was Co-60, gamma is gamma. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Apr 9, 2022 |
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Yeah, maybe its just more handling the fuckoff unknown with abandon.
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He might die a lot sooner than he'd otherwise hoped. The real kicker is the amount of suffering that will be the prime focus of his life now. Gonna be a real good day when this poo poo is finally over.
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Yeah when you have the plant workers going "HEY MAN ACTUALLY DON'T PICK UP THAT METAL THING!", and you do it anyway, what, did you think it was secret treasure?
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LRADIKAL posted:Yeah when you have the plant workers going "HEY MAN ACTUALLY DON'T PICK UP THAT METAL THING!", and you do it anyway, what, did you think it was secret treasure? "gently caress you pencil neck, mah freedumbs".
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You gotta be a special kind of stupid to pick up anything at, or near a loving nuclear power plant - much less one that had a loving melt down.
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Bored As gently caress posted:You gotta be a special kind of stupid to pick up anything at, or near a loving nuclear power plant - much less one that had a loving melt down. The dude was part of a NBC unit too, not some conscript, so theoretically he should have been trained on radiation dangers.
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IPCRESS posted:"gently caress you pencil neck, mah freedumbs". The Americans used a pencil
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Alan Smithee posted:The Russians picked up cobalt 60 by hand
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:https://twitter.com/KyleJGlen/status/1512523742009823240?t=sTfMNap37_qoBFDJLZFcNg&s=19 “Nyet you see is crescent encircling of Carthaginian Hannibal like Battle of Cannae”
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Prop Wash posted:I have a few of those (with the original sign-off checklist stamped into it - no idea if they were meant to review it or just post it but it requires initials from most of the commander’s staff) and they’re a great teaching tool for the propaganda we produce for ourselves. Oh that’s cool as hell. I stumbled across them for the first time looking in army surplus store by random chance. Luckily these days you can find most of them on the Internet, it’s very interesting to see the final ones especially from the late Gorbachev era.
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At least a couple of the vehicles the Ukrainians captured were indeed in working condition or could be repaired quickly. https://twitter.com/calibreobscura/status/1512749431984173056?s=21&t=1WHTTLGicpAzXww3q61d0w And this thing is probably on its way to the CIA right now. https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1512566406050631684?s=21&t=1WHTTLGicpAzXww3q61d0w
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BeastOfExmoor posted:For those who haven't seen it, the documentary Icarus is an incredible watch. Russia literally built a building with secret doors so they could swap urine samples at night during the Olympics. Seconding this. My favorite part is the documentarian attempting to film a tiny indie doc about doping himself to prove how effective it can be in amateur competition and accidentally stumbling into the entire Russian doping program. It’s legitimately amazing.
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Cythereal posted:At least a couple of the vehicles the Ukrainians captured were indeed in working condition or could be repaired quickly. Holy poo poo they shot down a MALE?
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Would 30mm go through a BTR's armorFrozenVent posted:Holy poo poo they shot down a MALE? loving woke Ukraine SJW army
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FrozenVent posted:Holy poo poo they shot down a MALE? Check your ROE privileges.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...medium=webfeedsquote:The Ukrainian Ombudswoman for Human Rights has said that the Russian government is crafting legislation to allow Russians to adopt Ukrainian children forcibly taken to Russia by military forces. 
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Really cool you can do state sponsored kidnapping as long as you have gas/oil to sell and nukes. How many of those kids will actually be placed in homes and not delivered into the arms of human traffickers?
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I guess that answers how Putin plans to combat Russia’s demographic problems…
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Alan Smithee posted:Would 30mm go through a BTR's armor Unless significantly uparmored, BTR-90s are only armored against .50 bmg equivalent projectiles. 30mm AP would probably overpenetrate. edit: If Finland ends up joining NATO, I promise you we'll see the same forced relocations of ethnic Finns in the Karelian peninsula and the Murmansk Oblast.
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davecrazy posted:Really cool you can do state sponsored kidnapping as long as you have gas/oil to sell and nukes. I mean considering how Russian soldiers treat kids they pretty much are the human traffickers
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MrYenko posted:Seconding this. My favorite part is the documentarian attempting to film a tiny indie doc about doping himself to prove how effective it can be in amateur competition and accidentally stumbling into the entire Russian doping program. I love recommending people watch it and only telling them about the original intent of the documentary.
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Oh goody, another classic from the genocide playbook.
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Ukraine is going to capture Moscow fuelled by pure rage and armed by the west.
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stealie72 posted:Ukraine is going to capture Moscow fuelled by pure rage and armed by the west. Can we please just give them offensive weapons!?! Not directed at you, just the situation.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Can we please just give them offensive weapons!?! After all, the best defense is a good offense.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Can we please just give them offensive weapons!?! We need to give their motor pools about 3 months of maintenance training first for ground vehicles. 6 months to a year for aircraft, plus on site maintenance advisors/supervisors for things with wings. It's not as simple as just giving some Abrams and F16s that have been sitting in the desert.
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A.o.D. posted:We need to give their motor pools about 3 months of maintenance training first for ground vehicles. 6 months to a year for aircraft, plus on site maintenance advisors/supervisors for things with wings. It's not as simple as just giving some Abrams and F16s that have been sitting in the desert. We’re already training them in the US for switchblade, let’s start on the ground vehicles, get them out into the field by July. Not perfect, but once a bunch of Abrams and Strkyers start rolling out. Same with the planes, out by late fall. Besides even if everything was going to end in a ceasefire tomorrow it’s not like the tools and the training will be useful in the future.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Can we please just give them offensive weapons!?! What do you call boatloads of Class V, ATGMs, AT weapons, TUAS, up-armored vehicles?
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mlmp08 posted:What do you call boatloads of Class V, ATGMs, AT weapons, TUAS, up-armored vehicles? Right now? I call it "Not Enough"
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Marshal Prolapse posted:We’re already training them in the US for switchblade, let’s start on the ground vehicles, get them out into the field by July. Not perfect, but once a bunch of Abrams and Strkyers start rolling out. Same with the planes, out by late fall. Besides even if everything was going to end in a ceasefire tomorrow it’s not like the tools and the training will be useful in the future. I agree. I just want to make the point that giving those systems RIGHT NOW will result in permanently deadlined vehicles within days or weeks and provide no material benefit in the short term. Aircraft without the necessary sustainment knowledge base will just get pilots (who are more valuable than air frames) killed very quickly.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Right now? I call it "Not Enough" I just want people to be more specific in their “do something” or “give offense” posts. There are some weapons that just aren’t getting handed over. Some advocates are specific in wanting stuff like coastal defense cruise missiles or replacement tanks. But saying that everything given is not “offense” capable is incorrect, and just leads to wondering what someone really means.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Right now? I call it "Not Enough"  I want Harpoons that can be mounted on trucks…and that’s just a start. Smart munition kits that can be added to dumb bombs. Tomahawks, but we need a new ground launcher method for them, so that’s more long term. HARM and other Anti-radiation missiles. Honestly give them whatever they want that isn’t a black project or a nuke if we have it laying around. Even if it’s something like an SSN that will take a decade. A.o.D. posted:I agree. I just want to make the point that giving those systems RIGHT NOW will result in permanently deadlined vehicles within days or weeks and provide no material benefit in the short term. Aircraft without the necessary sustainment knowledge base will just get pilots (who are more valuable than air frames) killed very quickly. Oh cool. We’re on the same page then. I just feel that training and a lead time shouldn’t be used as a reason, which is being offered by some (not you obviously). Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Apr 9, 2022 |
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Marshal Prolapse posted:
TIL that those are a thing that already exist.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:We’re already training them in the US for switchblade, let’s start on the ground vehicles, get them out into the field by July. Not perfect, but once a bunch of Abrams and Strkyers start rolling out. Same with the planes, out by late fall. Besides even if everything was going to end in a ceasefire tomorrow it’s not like the tools and the training will be useful in the future. How long would you suppose it would take to get Patriot batteries in the field? Marshal Prolapse posted:
How about Naval Strike Missiles?
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A.o.D. posted:TIL that those are a thing that already exist. Yep, Taiwan operates them, but I’m not sure if the US has those or it’s a purely local adaptation. Stultus Maximus posted:How long would you suppose it would take to get Patriot batteries in the field? NSM sounds great and no clue on those Patriots, but better to start now then latter. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Apr 9, 2022 |
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mlmp08 posted:I just want people to be more specific in their “do something” or “give offense” posts. There are some weapons that just aren’t getting handed over. Some advocates are specific in wanting stuff like coastal defense cruise missiles or replacement tanks. But saying that everything given is not “offense” capable is incorrect, and just leads to wondering what someone really means. If the Ukrainian statement is accurate re: adopting kids, then I want to ship everything they can reasonably use (including training!) as quickly as possible. Some things aren't possible, of course - we can't give them an Arleigh Burke because they probably couldn't use it in short order. But missiles, artillery, mortars? gently caress it, open the gates.
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