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The bible I'm using (rsv2ce) makes a point of linking The Word at the start of John to the spirit of Wisdom from Proverbs.
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Yeah, that's pretty standard in Christianity--it's where the cathedral of Holy Wisdom/Hagia Sophia gets its name.
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Apr 9, 2022 17:34
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Liquid Communism posted:Even then, McDonald's has spent millions of dollars on psychological, marketing, and food science research to craft food that is as habit-forming as possible to ensure repeat business. I tried to cover that with 'capitalist manipulation of food' but yeah I wasn't clear. Even so - that's an arguably evil act performed by human beings who have free will, not an act of an uncaring God, which is kinda what I was trying to get at. e: I recently bought myself a Bible in German which is a language I barely speak ('can you say that more slowly, please?' and 'Excuse me, what's the best way to get to the station?' get you quite a long way) and it's a really fun and interesting experience reading the familiar stories in another language.
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Apr 9, 2022 17:38
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I have print copies of The Phenomenology of Spirit in both English and German. I was surprised that the paragraphs in the German original aren't numbered!
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Apr 9, 2022 17:50
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Another way to think about them is different communities writing down their still oral spoken traditions as the Romans destroy their communities during the war.
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Apr 9, 2022 20:43
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Yes, the first century has a lot going on. And yes, the Romans were pretty thoroughly obliterating the existence of any characteristically Jewish nation. It's also amazing how quick all the founders of Christianity start getting murdered.
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Apr 9, 2022 21:04
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Prurient Squid posted:I have print copies of The Phenomenology of Spirit in both English and German. I was surprised that the paragraphs in the German original aren't numbered! Read that as Phrenology of Spirit at first. Was curious about the bumps on the Holy Spirit's metaphorical skull.
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Apr 9, 2022 22:09
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D34THROW posted:Read that as Phrenology of Spirit at first. Was curious about the bumps on the Holy Spirit's metaphorical skull. Oh good it wasn't just me. Frankly it didn't even phase me. Of course spirit has skull shape
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Apr 9, 2022 23:47
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Liquid Communism posted:Even then, McDonald's has spent millions of dollars on psychological, marketing, and food science research to craft food that is as habit-forming as possible to ensure repeat business. Weird fact: I basically quit going to my local McDonalds a year or two ago because the food isn't uniform for some hosed up reason. I don't know what the gently caress is going on in their kitchen but I've had overcooked burgers, McNuggets with scorch marks on them, and stale bans. It's a complete crapshoot whether you're going to get decent food which is weird because McDonalds was one of the pioneers in this.
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Apr 10, 2022 09:18
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So the Gospel of John is pretty late. About 90 AD to 110 AD. And Jesus is raising the dead, walking on water, turning water to wine, the works. They're going to have a tough time crucifying my boy this time round.
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Apr 10, 2022 12:34
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Am I right in thinking that Pharasaical Judaism is history transmission belt between the old Caananite religions and the modern Abrahamic religions (including modern Rabbinical Judaism).
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Apr 10, 2022 17:49
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TOOT BOOT posted:Weird fact: I basically quit going to my local McDonalds a year or two ago because the food isn't uniform for some hosed up reason. I don't know what the gently caress is going on in their kitchen but I've had overcooked burgers, McNuggets with scorch marks on them, and stale bans. It's a complete crapshoot whether you're going to get decent food which is weird because McDonalds was one of the pioneers in this. It might be a franchise not willing to pay enough. Places that don’t pay don’t have enough employees or good employees as a repercussion of the pandemic.
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Apr 10, 2022 18:26
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I mean it goes further than that. No matter what you are paying those people, fast food has completely divorced the worker from the product. You can't take pride in making a well crafted big Mac the way you could with a craftsman making a chair, or a chef making a dish.
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Apr 10, 2022 19:55
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There may not be many Hindus on SA, but today we celebrate Rama Navami, the birth of Lord Rama. As a Hanuman devotee, today is a special festival day- and Hanuman Jayanti is just around the corner as well (the largest holiday in my household).
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Apr 10, 2022 21:14
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LuckyCat posted:There may not be many Hindus on SA, but today we celebrate Rama Navami, the birth of Lord Rama. As a Hanuman devotee, today is a special festival day- and Hanuman Jayanti is just around the corner as well (the largest holiday in my household). I hope you have a wonderful holiday! My previous boss was very fond of Rama.
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Apr 11, 2022 04:36
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The line in John about "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" absolutely rocks.
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Apr 11, 2022 19:15
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My favourite version of John is Jesus Christ Superstar. ...not really but I do love JCS.
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Apr 11, 2022 19:28
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I like the Laibach version.
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In Asimov's guide to the Bible he points out a verse about the reign of the Emperor that puts the crucifixion at 29AD. So that makes Jesus' birth 4BC, strange though that may sound.
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Apr 13, 2022 10:45
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Prurient Squid posted:In Asimov's guide to the Bible he points out a verse about the reign of the Emperor that puts the crucifixion at 29AD. So that makes Jesus' birth 4BC, strange though that may sound. Chronology of the Bible is very dicey since the gospel writers are writing down something they’ve only heard through oral tradition that happened 70-80 years ago. Like could you really nail down the difference between something that happened in 1953 and 1951 without consulting Wikipedia? See the famous instance where Luke says the reason Joseph and Mary are going to Nazareth is the census of Quirinius which every Jew would have been super familiar with as a famous event like the the San Francisco fire or attack on pearl harbor but also happened in AD6 after Judea had become just another territory of the Roman Empire. Which doesn’t work with the events of king Herod in Matthew where Jesus family hides in Egypt explicitly because as a vassal state Herod wouldn’t dare send soldiers into Roman territory.
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Does this thread ever discuss Islam, or maybe any Muslim or Indian people hanging out in here? This isn't directly religion related, but I can't seem to figure out where to ask. I started a new job a couple years ago, and one of the other engineers I work with is Muslim. I've known him for over 15 years or so just from being in the same industry, and he's a good friend. I want to get him some kind of gift for the end of Ramadan (Eid al-Fitr I think?) and I'm not really sure what to get. He's Indian, so maybe something like this or this? I'm an irish heathen so I have literally no cultural context on what would be appropriate. If this isn't the place to ask hopefully someone can point me in the right direction. A Proper Uppercut fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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Apr 13, 2022 15:36
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Does this thread ever discuss Islam, or maybe any Muslim or Indian people hanging out in here? Not sure about the sweets. I don't think it'd be wrong to ask, or perhaps if you know where he goes to services, to call up the imam or someone at the office. I doubt you're the first person to be in this situation!
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Does this thread ever discuss Islam, or maybe any Muslim or Indian people hanging out in here? I'm sure he will be grateful, and if my Muslim co-workers are anything to go by, invite you over to sample the goodies.
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Apr 14, 2022 10:39
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Well, I'd like to keep it a secret, so I'll just take a chance and order something. As you say, I'm sure he'll be grateful. I really doubt anyone else here is acknowledging his holidays.
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It is customary to invite each other in for eid, so if you ask him over for tea and sweets he will probably come. Also, can you talk about irish heathenry? I know almost nothing except the anglo-saxon bits.
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Tias posted:It is customary to invite each other in for eid, so if you ask him over for tea and sweets he will probably come. I've never interacted with him outside of work and he commutes quite a distance to get here, I'd feel really weird inviting him over like that. I'm also extremely socially awkward. Ha, and the irish heathen thing, I just meant I'm a white agnostic type in the Northeast USA, so not much to talk about there. Just have no idea when it comes to norms with Eid gifts. Or Indian sweets.
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A Proper Uppercut posted:I've never interacted with him outside of work and he commutes quite a distance to get here, I'd feel really weird inviting him over like that. I'm also extremely socially awkward. Even if it's a little bit weird, he'll appreciate that you noticed and thought about him. Don't sweat getting the perfect thing.
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Does this thread ever discuss Islam, or maybe any Muslim or Indian people hanging out in here? I would just get him an (alcohol-free) Irish goodies gift basket because he probably has a lot of Indian friend giving him Indian stuff already.
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I just clicked through a series of pictures someone posted on social media of Jesus washing the feet of a man on death row, Trump, Biden, A guy man, a policeman, a Ukrainian refugee, an alchoholic... etc... It was interesting to see how everyone of the comments are people seeing what they want to see and rationalising it to suit their worldview.
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So the Mormons came back last week, I finally just said "I'm not really sure about this, I'll call you if I want you to come back." Or basically this. I had more spine than I usually do but I probably could have been more forceful. But then they did come back today. I slept in and, to be fair, they did text me last night, even if I missed it. Doorbell wakes me up, I answer the door and they want me to come to their church for Easter Sunday. I agreed to go but now my GF is telling me no, she doesn't want me surrounded by a bunch of strangers and she's apparently heard bad things about what the Church does to people who leave it and so-on. I dunno. I was thinking I'd go because I can't get a number of the local church anyway on Google or even calling the national LDS phone line, and I was thinking I'd ask somebody in charge to get these two to not bother me anymore. But with my GF being so anxious, I'm obviously gonna listen to her. I'll text these guys back and say something came up - which is the truth - and say again please don't come by unless I ask you to. I don't like texts or tweets sometimes because the tone can be lost in messages like that but at least I can be as clear as I need to be when texting.
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NikkolasKing posted:So the Mormons came back last week, I finally just said "I'm not really sure about this, I'll call you if I want you to come back." Or basically this. I had more spine than I usually do but I probably could have been more forceful. They may be genuinely nice, but the niceness is also trained into them to make it harder to say no to them. They're fundamentally salesmen trying to get you to buy a used car. Stop being nice to them, tell them to leave you alone and get lost. If Mormonism is appealing to you, get into on your own and set your involvement on your own terms.
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Yeah, exactly. Stop saying 'don't come unless I call you' and start saying 'don't come any more'. And don't indulge them in long conversations. Think of them as salesmen. You might want the thing they're selling or you might not, but you *certainly* don't need to be strong-armed into buying it on their terms.
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you can also just not answer the door if you dont want to talk to whoever is out there
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This is also the classic "goon in a hole" problem. No, it will not be easier to climb out if you just dig the hole a little deeper. If you want to get out of the hole, stop digging.
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Yes, don't form a covenant with Heavenly Father because it'd be too embarrassing to tell these nice guys to buzz off. They'll probably be disappointed, of course, but that's because they probably figure they've got you.
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Deteriorata posted:This is also the classic "goon in a hole" problem. Before we all start pissing in it. I got the Mormons and JW to leave my loving family alone by telling them in nice but forceful terms to gently caress off and don't come back. I can and I will call the local Kingdom Hall or LDS church if they come back.
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Fake your death and burn your apt down imo
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Becoming a Mormon because I don’t know how to say no or be the bad guy is one of my favorite sitcom plots
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