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Soul Dentist posted:Did I not see a tweet in this thread about it? I extremely didn't click it wherever it was There was a tweet in posted in this thread with a content warning, proper NMS tags and enough of a description that I had no need to click.
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piL posted:Bridge strikes are a: hard to line up at range and b: not enough of a mission kill to give a surface craft that fired it a chance to survive (unless maybe these are air launched brimstone). If you're going to build a Kaiten navy, there's better ways than hoping for a bridge strike. Thats a very good point. Perhaps more with the Harpoons since I didn’t realize how the Brimstone (while cool as hell) is more useful for smaller craft. That said I remember reports of an indigenous Ukrainian developed navy strike missile, it wasn’t supposed to be online until May iirc, so new clue if it will deploy or could even be finished or needed with the Harpoons coming. So perhaps they had some ideas on delivery already planned.
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McNally posted:Word in the mod forum is that there's some severely hosed poo poo on Twitter coming out of Ukraine involving sexual assault on young children. It's been posted elsewhere in the forums already. Christ. The article from Der Spiegel I posted was text only, and that was bad enough that it took me a few hours to come right from it.
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Apr 10, 2022 00:53
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The thing about war is that it unshackles the impulses of some people, make them think they can do whatever they want in the carnage. Rules of civilization? All gone when the shooting starts to them. Lets move off this topic to something else.
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Apr 10, 2022 01:27
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Don't gently caress with geese.
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Apr 10, 2022 01:33
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Hey McNally you have the most firearms of gip, send some muskets to Ukraine
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/Sputnik_Not/status/1512839384197906436?s=20&t=sbezPBBgQjFKAqZu5gNqiA Honk, motherfucker. 
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Don't gently caress with geese. poo poo, even the Roman's knew that weaponizing geese was the smart idea. https://www.warhistoryonline.com/ancient-history/how-holy-geese-saved-the-republic-in-390-bce-during-the-first-sack-of-rome.html?firefox=1
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eh forget it https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/u02shz/acoholic_whom_russians_tried_to_disguise_as_a/ Alan Smithee fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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Apr 10, 2022 03:24
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https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1513042818486448131?s=21&t=VUMe2SSpLRkGyCkoWfAcdg That is some bit of news.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1513042818486448131?s=21&t=VUMe2SSpLRkGyCkoWfAcdg
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1513042818486448131?s=21&t=VUMe2SSpLRkGyCkoWfAcdg Eh, that doesnt mean much. And theyve been saying similar to a week. What is "high level radiation" exactly?
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Roblo posted:Eh, that doesnt mean much. And theyve been saying similar to a week. What is "high level radiation" exactly? Petro Kokin, head of Energoatom posted:Petro Kotin, the head of Ukraine's state nuclear power operator Energoatom, visited one of the sections of the so-called Red Forest in Chernobyl's exclusion zone along with specialists and observed "abnormally high" radiation in areas where the Russian troops dug trenches and tried to build fortifications. They're fuckin glowing inside, is what the head of Ukraine's nuclear power agency says, basically. Alpha particles are scary as gently caress and you absolutely do not want them inside you. Ever. That dude who got polonium tea'd drank Polonium 210, which is an Alpha emitter. He died 23 days after someone spiked his tea with Polonium. Of course, his insides decomposed basically from ARS before this, and his end was incredibly painful and slow. orange juche fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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Sounds like they may be a wee bit hosed
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Raged posted:Sounds like they may be a wee bit hosed We went through it a few pages back in more detail, but respirable radioactive dust + Cs laden drinking water + digging through the layer of sand dumped over the spicy stuff by the liquidators make my magic 8 ball say "Not even carrion eaters are interested in your irradiated corpse". I'll be interested how many of them are handed back to their families without any notification of the CoD and how many of those then go to conventional cremation.
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Radiation sickness isn't like any sickness you've ever had either, multiple organ systems all fail because your body is self destructing from ionizing radiation damaging your cells, and there's nothing doctors can do to save you other than offer palliative care and prayer, if you got a severe dose. I feel bad for the poor fucks who got hauled out to the wilderness of loving Chernobyl on the whim of a dude trying to relive the Soviet Union's glory days. They're probably just dumb fuckers who got told to go here, dig there, and sit in this cold, wet hole until we tell you to ruck up and move out. On the other hand they're part of a war of unprovoked aggression and probably took part in heinous poo poo per the Russian Army's M.O. before camping out in the radioactive woods, so I don't feel too bad if they wind up dead.
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IPCRESS posted:We went through it a few pages back in more detail, but respirable radioactive dust + Cs laden drinking water + digging through the layer of sand dumped over the spicy stuff by the liquidators make my magic 8 ball say "Not even carrion eaters are interested in your irradiated corpse". Congratulations! Your family will not be buried in zinc Their casket has been upgraded to lead!
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To be clear the kind of radiation sickness those dudes would get is not the same as the guys at ground zero in Chernobyl in 1986, they got close to 30 Gy worth of radiation the night of, and died in horrible ways soon after. Depending on what these guys got into, they might have shaved 20 years off their life due to increased cancer risk, or they might be getting buried in a lead casket in a month or 2 after enduring agony. Lower doses of radiation (between 1-3 Gy) can be like that, it's a crapshoot whether you live or not. 0.8 Gy is the threshold for showing obvious symptoms of ARS (vomiting/diarrhea/burns at exposure site), and if the unit didn't understand what they were looking at, it's likely they may not have evacuated soldiers experiencing ARS quickly enough and they picked up a potentially lethal dose. E: from other thread, those dumb infantry dudes are hosed Neddy Seagoon posted:So a little bit more on Chornobyl; loving Russian generals who are saying "our troops dug in the forests north of Kyiv in WWII and were fine, this is fake news!" orange juche fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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Apr 10, 2022 12:48
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The lack of awareness of the history of Chernobyl by Russian forces deployed to the area suggests that this was a bit of history that the Soviet Union probably didn’t allow to be very widely reported when it happened and isn’t taught today. It’s actually a pretty good example of, “people who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.”
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Murgos posted:The lack of awareness of the history of Chernobyl by Russian forces deployed to the area suggests that this was a bit of history that the Soviet Union probably didn’t allow to be very widely reported when it happened and isn’t taught today. I would be very surprised if items from the late eighties were discussed in their high school equivalent, a lot of countries struggle to teach anything beyond late sixties history at that level.
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Murgos posted:It’s actually a pretty good example of, “people who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.” Also "people who ignore nuclear trefoil signs are doomed to glow."
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Murgos posted:The lack of awareness of the history of Chernobyl by Russian forces deployed to the area suggests that this was a bit of history that the Soviet Union probably didn’t allow to be very widely reported when it happened and isn’t taught today. One of the things that didn't get a lot of play regarding Putin's Russia is the rehabilitation of Stalin and the demonization of Khrushchev. So all of the bad stuff the USSR did either didn't happen, or was actually good stuff, and the USSR and Russia never had a moment of help during any of their struggles. I'd be shocked if anyone in Russia younger than, say, 40 years old, had any clear idea of what happened at Chernobyl. If you can memory hole something for long enough, it basically becomes forgotten history.
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Didn’t Russia put up a bunch of articles or even a TV movie after the Chernobyl miniseries came out about how it was all a US/CIA plot?
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DkHelmet posted:Didn’t Russia put up a bunch of articles or even a TV movie after the Chernobyl miniseries came out about how it was all a US/CIA plot? Yup. CIA did
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Murgos posted:The lack of awareness of the history of Chernobyl by Russian forces deployed to the area suggests that this was a bit of history that the Soviet Union probably didn’t allow to be very widely reported when it happened and isn’t taught today. much like the whole "russian soldiers reaaally like to rape and nobody told them it was bad" thing
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A.o.D. posted:One of the things that didn't get a lot of play regarding Putin's Russia is the rehabilitation of Stalin and the demonization of Khrushchev. So all of the bad stuff the USSR did either didn't happen, or was actually good stuff, and the USSR and Russia never had a moment of help during any of their struggles. I'd be shocked if anyone in Russia younger than, say, 40 years old, had any clear idea of what happened at Chernobyl. If you can memory hole something for long enough, it basically becomes forgotten history. It really shouldn't matter if the Joes are dumb as bricks. Someone at SOME level should have known about the threat and told everyone to avoid the area. That's what's so mind boggling.
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Syrian Lannister posted:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1512623362744504325?t=k4oPCVYI9P1IVnnJJbOl-Q&s=19 I sent this link to a buddy who works for radiation health science. He said Co-60 wouldn't be a huge threat at this point- 5.27yr half life. After 35 years its like 2% of original activity, but the reactor core poo poo with million-year half-lives are the really scary rocks.
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MA-Horus posted:I sent this link to a buddy who works for radiation health science. A radiation source at a waste mitigation site would probably be a fresh source of documented provenance used to calibrate instruments, and not a chunk of the 35 year old reactor. It’s probably hot as gently caress, is what I’m saying. 
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Yeah if ol Boris is picking it up as a pocket warmer, adios comrade.
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MA-Horus posted:Yeah if ol Boris is picking it up as a pocket warmer, adios comrade. 
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MrYenko posted:The only thing I’ve learned in my time on SA is that the forums code is held together with volunteers’ blood seat and tears, bailing twine, and hope. I'm fairly sure the forums work because we collectively believe they should work. If enough people stop believing in them they'll collapse into dust.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I'm fairly sure the forums work because we collectively believe they should work. If enough people stop believing in them they'll collapse into dust. Red titles post fasta' MrYenko posted:A radiation source at a waste mitigation site would probably be a fresh source of documented provenance used to calibrate instruments, and not a chunk of the 35 year old reactor. Do those normally have a production date engraved onto them? A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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we should all be so lucky that british boris would give himself the ol' stanky leg from picking up a CO-60 pocket warmer.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1513042818486448131?s=21&t=VUMe2SSpLRkGyCkoWfAcdg Yeah there's good evidence that they stole some spicy sources from the labs in the plant during their destruction spree, including supposedly a poorly trained CBRN troop picking up a Cobalt-60 source barehanded.
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