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aers posted:The server will process actions as soon as your slidecast window is up, but when they actually apply is kinda arbitrary It's strange that a near-instant application is being done for certain effects, but not others. SCH/SGE shields show up instantly post-Endwalker, and SGE has both E.Dosis and Pneuma show up almost as soon as the server will let it. I'm not sure why it isn't universal, aside from maybe bandwidth considerations.
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Sultan Tarquin posted:Way ahead of you, but christ. Double mooches? Someone doing something I've already done where I get to enjoy their anguish and then eventual triumph! Is this how you guys feel all the time with me? 
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Bruceski posted:I was poking around Party Finder for P2S and saw some terms I didn't recognize on one guy's list: I don't think any of the usual sites/channels cover parse group strats so I usually have to search through The Balance's discord for them, or send a tell to the party finder lead and ask for a link.
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Bruceski posted:Also, does there happen to be a general resource to look these terms up that isn't a 30 minute long rambling video where the guy doesn't actually talk about them? Sometimes stuff's obvious, other times a simple mechanic gets named "walter's cat strats" because some guy had a noisy cat on stream when he happened to use it. Aether has started to use https://www.thepfstrat.com/home I have no idea how pf strats differ on Primal, but it could be useful just in case terms and strats happen to cross over between the data centers. The site explains the strats for typical runs, so it probably won't be helpful for any weird terms for parse/opti parties, but if you're just looking for clears/practice that won't be an issue anyway.
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You can be the best healer in the world, but if they lose more hp in the cast time of benefic 2 plus Celestial Intersection than those skills restore, that trash pull is not going to end well. Idk if they're all standing in orange, or have level 1 glamour gear equipped or DRK is just that bad, but I've never had that much of a problem with any other tank. I also don't see a lot of living dead, so maybe its more that DRK players just don't use defensive cooldowns. I see the occasional TBN but maybe thats because it lets them do more damage. They're generally squishy enough that even if they pop TBN at full HP, I'd better start casting a benefic 2 because they'll be at 75% at best by the time the cast finishes
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Vermain posted:It's strange that a near-instant application is being done for certain effects, but not others. SCH/SGE shields show up instantly post-Endwalker, and SGE has both E.Dosis and Pneuma show up almost as soon as the server will let it. I'm not sure why it isn't universal, aside from maybe bandwidth considerations. I think the idea is that if a spell takes 2.5 seconds to cast then naturally the effect should be applied after 2.5 seconds. Shields are a special exception post-EW to guarantee that if you weave Deployment Tactics immediately afterwards then the shields are properly up before the deploy, so they apply at the start of the slidecast window ie at the point when the game knows the cast will not be interrupted and cancelled.
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Sultan Tarquin posted:Way ahead of you, but christ. Double mooches? triple mooch 
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Arist posted:Hey, anyone have that post with the locations of all the Scions after the end of 6.0? I wanna check in on everyone before the servers go down. Y'shtola is with Matoya in her cave, I know that one! TheWorldsaStage fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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Oh crap is 6.1 really dropping already... I knew I was looking at memes about the patch notes earlier but I didn't really think about it lmao i am gonna let the mameshiba earrings slip away one more time
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Arist posted:Hey, anyone have that post with the locations of all the Scions after the end of 6.0? I wanna check in on everyone before the servers go down. Right here. Here be Endwalker spoilers!
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Arist posted:Hey, anyone have that post with the locations of all the Scions after the end of 6.0? I wanna check in on everyone before the servers go down. Alph and Ali are in the train station in Garlemald Thancred and Urianger are in the Ragnarok hangar Krile and G'raha are in the Beldesion Annex
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Vermain posted:It's strange that a near-instant application is being done for certain effects, but not others. SCH/SGE shields show up instantly post-Endwalker, and SGE has both E.Dosis and Pneuma show up almost as soon as the server will let it. I'm not sure why it isn't universal, aside from maybe bandwidth considerations. And it's not just a Sage vs older classes thing. Here's a cast of Prognosis    2 second cast time. After 1.5 seconds the cast is locked in. Then half a second later, the healing just ripples out over a timeframe of up to 0.8 seconds after the end of the cast time. That's how all heals used to work before Endwalker. And here's Pneuma    1.5 second cast time. 1 second later the cast is locked in and all healing on everyone happens at the same time. Then, a second later (half a second after the end of the cast time) , the damage happens. Looks like they worked around the usual mechanics for heals by making it a single HoT tick instead of a direct heal?
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Arist posted:Hey, anyone have that post with the locations of all the Scions after the end of 6.0? I wanna check in on everyone before the servers go down. Here's Hogama's post on the locations of both major and minor: Hogama posted:Alisaie and Alphinaud are with Julius in Tertium in Garlemald, helping out with the whole relief effort plan. It is as yet not going nearly as poorly as their initial sortie.
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It's honestly all completely arbitrary and clearly something that can be tuned serverside. Benediction still takes about half a day to actually apply. DRK had that issue in ShB where one of its 10 second buffs lasted 11 seconds and the other lasted 9.7 or something and you could get 5 attacks in one but not the other even though both said 10 seconds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0_QZ3ug3jo)
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aers posted:It's honestly all completely arbitrary and clearly something that can be tuned serverside. Which is why it's strange that they haven't applied it universally. Something like Benediction especially should work instantly, and the cooldown ensures it's not gonna be a huge drain on bandwidth. I'll be curious to see if they've made more of the new PVP actions apply effects instantly, since it really feels like something like Stuns should be as responsive as possible.
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Sanguinia posted:Someone doing something I've already done where I get to enjoy their anguish and then eventual triumph! Is this how you guys feel all the time with me? Welcome to the next step in enjoying of FFXIV: vicariously re-experiencing stuff!
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Tamba posted:So I've always known that the heal from Pneuma is super fast, but while going over some footage from E4S with a static member, we noticed that it's actually time traveling: One of the nicest changes of this is I can spread an adlo as soon as the cast is finished and know without fail the shield is getting spread. Definitely a nice QOL change they did.
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yeah, i would not enjoy sage half as much if i couldn't slap shields on everyone a tenth of a second before they get smacked. it really makes it feel snappy and my brain happy
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HackensackBackpack posted:Right here. Is there a similar post for minor scions? I saw Aenor and Ocher Boulder in Gridania but I don't know about anyone else.
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sirtommygunn posted:Is there a similar post for minor scions? I saw Aenor and Ocher Boulder in Gridania but I don't know about anyone else. A few posts below that one, yeah. Though that post led me to believe Tataru was in Old Sharlayan when she's actually still at the Rising Stones.
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The worst part of Sage is that its whole thing is basically being a dispenser of rapid, weak shields that you're banking on breaking, but you have to press two buttons to lay down that shield every time. They made 'TBN: The Job', except it's worse to use than TBN itself.
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The thing about the "shield' healers is that you almost never want to and rarely need to use the shields.
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Arist posted:A few posts below that one, yeah. Though that post led me to believe Tataru was in Old Sharlayan when she's actually still at the Rising Stones. Double checking them Alianne and Isildaure also don't appear unless you've done the Doma Reconstruction
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Arist posted:A few posts below that one, yeah. Though that post led me to believe Tataru was in Old Sharlayan when she's actually still at the Rising Stones.  OhFunny posted:Double checking them Alianne and Isildaure also don't appear unless you've done the Doma Reconstruction
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:The thing about the "shield' healers is that you almost never want to and rarely need to use the shields. When I was 90 on Sage I found that spamming shields wasn't going to cut it, and I was pointed to a video where I got my current rotation (Its been a while so I may get this wrong): On the run up, apply shields for the Addersting charges, and dots when you can. Then, when you stop, Krasis + Physis II + Kerachole + Haima or Paihaima. At this point they should be good enough that I can dump all my toxikon and phlegma charges, then I would AOE the rest of the fight, occasionally throwing a Taurochole or Durochole. There is a bit more too it than that and others may have a different rotation but the point is you definitely want to use your other skills rather than relying on shields. EDIT: Here it is, and also thanks to Hommando for linking it and his own advice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPjdwUgwncI Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Apr 11, 2022 |
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:The thing about the "shield' healers is that you almost never want to and rarely need to use the shields. true i can either hit two buttons to put out a shield pre-raidwide or i can just slap ixochole after the fact and let one of the regens i always have up and ticking fill in any gaps  hardly anything outside savage is actually putting out enough damage frequently enough to need anything else (but shielding makes me happy so i still do it)
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I'd hesitate to call anything healers do a rotation, but the gist is right. And narrowing down at Sage and Scholar, you almost never want to touch either of your GCD shields. Haima/Panhaima/Seraph are amazing, mind you, but that's due to their free and oGCD nature. Moving on from dungeons, you still never want to touch your shields while in combat. Early weeks of savage I might do a couple Eukrasia Prognosis / Succor per encounter, but in general we'd manage with just oGCDs and other mitigation, but it didn't take long to take them out of P1 and 2 entirely. They're not all that effective in comparison to the rest of the toolbox, and you rarely need to dip into their extra strength.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I'd hesitate to call anything healers do a rotation, but the gist is right. And narrowing down at Sage and Scholar, you almost never want to touch either of your GCD shields. Haima/Panhaima/Seraph are amazing, mind you, but that's due to their free and oGCD nature. My pulls on SCH I've been rotating super spready adlo on the first pull and seraph for the second. And then usually full Uptime DPS on the bosses. Outside of mistakes causing drain I can get close to 100% uptime on DPS. The only uptime I really lose is the super adlo I do on the first pull but its honestly really worth it since I also spread it to the DPS and they can sit in a few AOEs for free. Also do super adlo is cool on both expert bosses because I can defuse the second bomb for free (Also absorb the stack entirely) in smileton and completely mitigate the raidwide damage from one of the adds in stigma. I'm in love with shield healers this xpac tbh.
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I mean there’s a lot of dropped threads in Lahabrea’s speech but there’s also clearly bits they picked up and expanded. Lahabrea posted:Pathetic. You boasted of unrivaled power. You were entrusted with the ultimate weapon. The ultimate magic! And still you failed. So much for the glory of man. Bold is literally how the plot turns out. Italics is “eh a bit of a stretch but from a certain point of view Zodiark holding up the aetheric ozone zone to protect against the Final Days somewhat counts”, especially from an Ascian perspective.
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hopeandjoy posted:Snip Bro I think you are in the wrong thread here.
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hopeandjoy posted:I mean there’s a lot of dropped threads in Lahabrea’s speech but there’s also clearly bits they picked up and expanded. Wrong FFXIV thread, but yeah. Even knowing that the Ascian story changed between 2.0 and when it was laid out in Shadowbringers, they did a pretty good job of retrofitting it to the Lahabrea speech to the point where he sounds like 'he heard the right facts, but interpreted them poorly because he's crazy'.
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Bruceski posted:Most of my Free Company is East Coast. I'm West Coast. That means in the evenings I have the place to myself. JUST TAKE THOSE ORCHEST' ROLLS OFF THE SHELF
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HackensackBackpack posted:JUST TAKE THOSE ORCHEST' ROLLS OFF THE SHELF DON'T TRY TO TAKE ME TO A HOUSE DISCO YOU'LL NEVER EVEN GET ME THROUGH THE DOOR FIFTEEN MINUTES I'LL HIT RETURN ONCE MORE FOR SOME OL' TIME ORCHESTRION ROLL.
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 See you space cowboy. Min ilvl has a surprising amount of bite to it.
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Ibblebibble posted:
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