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Imagine being their mom trying to call one of them in from the yard
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Imagined posted:Who were the three dwarfs who left the Shire with Bilbo in book 1? If they were just in the other room packing while Bilbo and Gandalf were having the whole discussion about giving up the Ring, does that mean they heard all of that, too? I always assumed that the dwarves who showed up to help with his party were at least some of his old travelling companions, given that they were willing to come all the way to the Shire on his account, and he subsequently went on to Dale with them.
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Apr 10, 2022 18:04
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Trin Tragula posted:I always assumed that the dwarves who showed up to help with his party were at least some of his old travelling companions, given that they were willing to come all the way to the Shire on his account, and he subsequently went on to Dale with them. Or the kids thereof, since they'd all be Too Old For That poo poo(tm) by then.
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Apr 10, 2022 18:28
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Trin Tragula posted:I always assumed that the dwarves who showed up to help with his party were at least some of his old travelling companions, given that they were willing to come all the way to the Shire on his account, and he subsequently went on to Dale with them. Did Bilbo visit Dale again? I thought he made it as far as Rivendell, but was too tired to keep on travelling and never left. Lemniscate Blue fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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Apr 10, 2022 19:53
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girl dick energy posted:Correct! They're an important part of troop and character movement rules in War of the Ring, and the game board only expresses them with slightly thicker and more squiggly black lines than the normal area borders. Yeah, that sounds like awful visual design.
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Apr 10, 2022 20:00
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Anshu posted:Yeah, that sounds like awful visual design.  This is what the board looks like. (And yes, the cheap plastic minis are included. One of the best improvements my favorite Tabletop Sim module makes is replacing them with much nicer, classier wooden disks.) 
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Apr 10, 2022 20:44
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Did Bilbo visit Dale again? I thought he made it as far as Rivendell, but was too tired to keep on travelling and never left. I did have to go back and check to be sure, and: quote:Bilbo had not much to say of himself. When he had left Hobbiton he had wandered off aimlessly, along the Road or in the country on either side; but somehow he had steered all the time towards Rivendell.
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Apr 10, 2022 21:14
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Someone made some custom mountain ranges, which make the board look really cool: Only 100 dollars.
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Apr 10, 2022 21:24
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adhuin posted:Someone made some custom mountain ranges, which make the board look really cool:
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Apr 10, 2022 21:33
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girl dick energy posted:Add it to the slowly growing pile of reasons I kind of want a 3D printer. If you have a microcenter near you they occasionally run a $100 deal on the Ender 3 Pro. Tinkering with a 3D printer is a hobby in and of itself but I’ve gotten a ton of mileage out of mine.
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Apr 11, 2022 13:28
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Looks like you could make those mountain ranges with some modeling clay
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girl dick energy posted:So people can see what I'm talking about, this is my in-progress (very) rough first draft. Started in the middle and expanded outward, since in my experience, a lot of how the early game plays out hinges on what happens in and around Lorien and Isengard. I am going to end up doing some terrible violence to the geography of Middle Earth by the time I'm finished. Please keep posting the "subway map" edition of War of the Ring. I really like the idea of super clean design paired with such archaic-sounding place names.
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If one wanted to learn Khuzdul, our Neo-Khuzdul, how would they go about it?
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Furism posted:If one wanted to learn Khuzdul, our Neo-Khuzdul, how would they go about it? Read the “Analysis of Dwarvish” article in here, realize that every scrap of the Khuzdul corpus can be made to fit on five pages, then make up the rest of the language as you see fit.
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Tree Bucket posted:Please keep posting the "subway map" edition of War of the Ring. I really like the idea of super clean design paired with such archaic-sounding place names.
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I have to confess that for several years now we've been listening and relistening to the Inglis audiobook versions to fall asleep literally every single night. His voice plus the familiarity of the material is  for sleepy time. Anyway, any day you see me is literally a day where I'm in the middle of a slow, constant reread, but to this day new things stand out to me every time.This time: 1.) In book 2, as Gandalf leads the Fellowship to flee into Moria to escape the Watcher in the water: JRRT posted:Rousing them from the horror that seemed to have rooted all but Sam to the ground where they stood, he drove them forward.  2.) How does Gandalf make it all the way into Orthanc without noticing that Isengard is all evil and poo poo, as he sees from the roof after being imprisoned? 3.) Is there something weird or magical about the actual location of Rivendell? Boromir mentions "of which many had heard, but few knew where it lay" and that he came there "by strange roads", and even when Merry asked Strider how far it was to Rivendell. Strider didn’t know, and he gave some vague answer like “Some say it is so far, and some say otherwise.” This road was a “strange road,” he said.
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Apr 14, 2022 16:41
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Saruman hide his forces . Gandalf does however get a bad feeling when he enters the gates of Isengard , he just dismisses it
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Apr 14, 2022 16:51
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Rivendell is protected by Elrond’s (ring of) power. Like Lorien it’s a secret refuge and one does not necessarily just walk in. In the bit you’re talking about with Merry, Aragorn follows up with some pretty accurate estimates of how far out they are (about two weeks). He also says more or less “look, don’t worry how long this is going to take, be grateful that we still have any chance of making it there alive”.
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Apr 14, 2022 16:55
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The roads were strange to boromir Becuase he’s never been there . Denethor did know approximately where it was tho iirc . So it wasn’t unknown to the (lower case w) wise
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euphronius posted:The roads were strange to boromir Becuase he’s never been there . Very approximately. quote:Of these words [Faramir’s dream] we could understand little, and we spoke to our father, Denethor, Lord of Minas Tirith, wise in the lore of Gondor. This only would he say, that Imladris was of old the name among the Elves of a far northern dale, where Elrond the Halfelven dwelt, greatest of lore-masters. Therefore my brother, seeing how desperate was our need, was eager to heed the dream and seek for Imladris; but since the way was full of doubt and danger, I took the journey upon myself. Loth was my father to give me leave, and long have I wandered by roads forgotten, seeking the house of Elrond, of which many had heard, but few knew where it lay. “Long have I wandered” is kind of underselling it—he was on the road from July 4 to October 24! “Few knew where it lay” is interesting too, since it implies that some did know. Did he run into some elf who pointed him in the right direction?
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Apr 14, 2022 17:02
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I guess eventually Illuvatar just kind of got him there (or Ulmo)
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euphronius posted:Saruman hide his forces . Gandalf does however get a bad feeling when he enters the gates of Isengard , he just dismisses it quote:They took me and they set me alone on the pinnacle of Orthanc, in the place where Saruman was accustomed to watch the stars. There is no descent save by a narrow stair of many thousand steps, and the valley below seems far away. I looked on it and saw that, whereas it had once been green and fair, it was now filled with pits and forges. Wolves and orcs were housed in Isengard, for Saruman was mustering a great force on his own account, in rivalry of Sauron and not in his service yet. quote:Over all his works a dark smoke hung and wrapped itself about the sides of Orthanc. I stood alone on an island in the clouds; and I had no chance of escape, and my days were bitter. quote:...most of the valley had become a wilderness of weeds and thorns. Brambles trailed upon the ground, or clambering over bush and bank, made shaggy caves where small beasts housed. No trees grew there; but among the rank grasses could still be seen the burned and axe-hewn stumps of ancient groves. It was a sad country, silent now but for the stony noise of quick waters. Smokes and steams drifted in sullen clouds and lurked in the hollows. quote:The plain, too, was bored and delved. Shafts were driven deep into the ground; their upper ends were covered by low mounds and domes of stone, so that in the moonlight the Ring of Isengard looked like a graveyard of unquiet dead. For the ground trembled. The shafts ran down by many slopes and spiral stairs to caverns far under; there Saruman had treasuries, store-houses, armouries, smithies, and great furnaces. Iron wheels revolved there endlessly, and hammers thudded. At night plumes of vapour steamed from the vents, lit from beneath with red light, or blue, or venomous green. I mean, sounds pretty hard to hide all that from a literal angel/wizard to me, but what do I know.
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Apr 14, 2022 17:08
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I always took it that a casual searcher would miss it but if someone were determined they’d eventually find their way.
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Apr 14, 2022 17:09
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He arrived in the middle of the night and Saruman had the furnaces set to “standby”
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He was jetlagged and didn’t register what he was seeing until he got to the AirBnB and realized all the rooms were non-smoking.
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Gandalf is hustling in on a horse because he’s in a rush to see Saruman, he thinks he’s got important information that he needs to hear immediately. He’s neither out in Isengard for very long, nor is he paying attention to his surroundings. Moreover, it is “late one evening” when he rolls up. Probably too dark to see much. Once he’s on top of the tower he has a birds eye view and nothing better to do with his time than look and worry.
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Apr 14, 2022 17:14
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Saruman knew he was coming also
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girl dick energy posted:He was jetlagged and didn’t register what he was seeing until he got to the AirBnB and realized all the rooms were non-smoking. He even leaves a zero star review “Nay, the guest who has escaped from the roof, will think twice before he comes back in by the door. Nay, I do not think I will come up.”
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tbh the movie actually solves that by having the main body of work happening in secret, and only after Gandalf arrives does Saruman kick things into high gear and reveal Orthanc as a vassal of Sauron
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euphronius posted:I guess eventually Illuvatar just kind of got him there (or Ulmo) If you want to keep your hidden sanctuary actually safe from random mortals wandering in under Ulmo's guidance, you're gonna have to situate it far from any streams.
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If Boromir filled a water skin with river water, that may be a portable Ulmo vector.
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euphronius posted:If Boromir filled a water skin with river water, that may be a portable Ulmo vector. They used the Bruinen to wash away the Black Riders and save the day, at the ford, they had plenty of water for Ulmo to spy with.
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Pham Nuwen posted:If you want to keep your hidden sanctuary actually safe from random mortals wandering in under Ulmo's guidance, you're gonna have to situate it far from any streams. But unless you're a servant of the Enemy, why woukd you want to keep out people guided by Ulmo?
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Ulmo did a thing with Gondolin. Maybe some elves don’t think that turned out great
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Anshu posted:But unless you're a servant of the Enemy, why woukd you want to keep out people guided by Ulmo? euphronius posted:Ulmo did a thing with Gondolin. Maybe some elves don’t think that turned out great
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Ulmo knows where you live
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Is there any more than the line in Book 2 about how Galadriel attempted to have Gandalf as the head of the White Council, when, or why?
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euphronius posted:Ulmo did a thing with Gondolin. Maybe some elves don’t think that turned out great Yeah but the reason Gondolin didn't turn out that great is because at the critical moment they decided to ignore Ulmo's advice. Same could be said of Nargothrond and their whole bridge situation.
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Imagined posted:Is there any more than the line in Book 2 about how Galadriel attempted to have Gandalf as the head of the White Council, when, or why? Not much, this is from "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age" in The Silmarillion: quote:Ever most vigilant was Mithrandir, and he it was that most doubted the darkness in Mirkwood, for many deemed that it was wrought by the Ringwraits, he feared that it was indeed the first shadow of Sauron returning; and he went to Dol Guldur, and the Sorcerer fled from him, and there was watchful peace for a long while. But at length the Shadow returned and its power increased; and in that time was first made the Council of the Wise that is called the White Council, and therein were Elrond and Galadriel and Círdan, and other lords of the Eldar, and with them were Mithrandir and Curunir. And Curunir (that was Saruman the White) was chosen the be their chief, for he had most studied the devices of Sauron of old. Galadriel indeed had wished that Mithrandir should be the head of the Council, and Saruman begrudged them that, for his pride and desire of mastery was grown great; but Mithrandir refused the office, since he would have no ties and no allegiance, save to those that sent him, and he would abide in no place nor be subject to any summons. But Saruman now began to study the lore of the Rings of Power, their making and their history. So Gandalf was actually offered the job and turned it down, making Saruman v salty.
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Phy posted:Ulmo knows where you pee
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