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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:Liberty island is in NJ waters, but that's a matter of "this island with the statue is new york" I'm assuming a border was demarcated based on a channel but then they used landfill to build out the island so that it went over where the channel used to be?
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Apr 10, 2022 22:45
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I'm assuming a border was demarcated based on a channel but then they used landfill to build out the island so that it went over where the channel used to be? like liberty island it remained in the hands of new york when satan created new jersey in the 17th century and gave them the harbor. they then expanded the island in the early 20th century and nj sued
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Apr 10, 2022 22:55
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:Kentucky is the only state where a portion of it cannot be accessed without traveling through a second state Georgia has something like this but it's actually connected so I don't think it works
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Apr 11, 2022 00:55
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Eiba posted:Jesus Christ that's horrific. Carter Lake, Iowa is almost as bad. Theoretically you could swim across the Missouri River to get their, but practically speaking, it’s in the same boat as Kentucky Bend. Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:Liberty island is in NJ waters, but that's a matter of "this island with the statue is new york" SCOTUS ruled that all the landfill parts of Liberty Island belong to New Jersey, but it’s both federal property and jointly administered, so there are a couple of layers on that mess.
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Apr 11, 2022 01:11
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:The little piece of Kentucky mentioned is fully disconnected. I did not actually say "What the gently caress." out loud when I parsed the map, but the emotion was there.
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Apr 11, 2022 02:02
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Lol, it owns its specifically the landfill parts that are new jersey. I couldnt think of a funnier outcome
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Apr 11, 2022 02:03
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Kentucky is supposed to have the entire Ohio river with Indiana and (ironically) Ohio having none but because they dammed the river up both those states get like a tiny little 50 feet of river
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Apr 11, 2022 02:07
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mandatory lesbian posted:Lol, it owns its specifically the landfill parts that are new jersey. I couldnt think of a funnier outcome Why does everyone hate on New Jersey so much, anyway? NB: I'm not American.
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Apr 11, 2022 02:16
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It's directly adjacent to the world's 11th largest city, which is a major cultural center, so a regional rivalry gets spread internationally.
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Apr 11, 2022 02:22
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Many people have a bad image for NJ because they only see the industrial hellscape around Newark airport.
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Apr 11, 2022 02:23
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Private Speech posted:Why does everyone hate on New Jersey so much, anyway? It’s new york elitism that became widespread due to its oversized influence on hollywood. Then consider that some really smart people decided it was good to build a lot of factories with stinky emissions directly next to the only major highway through North Jersey which means large exposure to NJ stink that reinforces it. Most of NJ is a great state.
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Apr 11, 2022 02:24
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Private Speech posted:Why does everyone hate on New Jersey so much, anyway? Jersey Shore The show, not the actual area I grew up hating New Jersey but I've realized in the last few years that I only hate a very specific area of South Jersey, and there's so much more to the state. It's one of our most European polities. Jersey drivers are the worst, though. I see a Jersey license plate I'm assuming they're going to gently caress things up somehow
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Apr 11, 2022 02:27
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I only hate a very specific area of South Jersey Lol why and which part
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Apr 11, 2022 02:29
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You all keep talking about the view from NYC but I'm here to tell you about the view from Philadelphia: we hate loving Jersey people. Hate them like poison. We'd rather drink in a bar with Vladimir Putin and North Korean generals than anybody from loving Jersey. Yes, you're talking about the view from the most populous city in the United States, but here's the view from the 5th largest city which is also part of your megalopolis.
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Apr 11, 2022 02:31
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In the early history of the US, New York got the name of the Empire State was because it aggressively tried to push its borders as far as possible, duking it out with every surrounding state, and stopping Vermont from being part of the initial US because they were still trying to lay their claim to that land. It's kind of ironic how today upstate New York is an often-forgotten thing in the shadow of the city, because they fought really hard to stake it out. Their fight with New Jersey involved creatively redefining a river and an apocryphal boat race.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:You all keep talking about the view from NYC but I'm here to tell you about the view from Philadelphia: we hate loving Jersey people. Hate them like poison. We'd rather drink in a bar with Vladimir Putin and North Korean generals than anybody from loving Jersey. That area is basically the rich suburbs of Philly so
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Apr 11, 2022 02:33
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ASAPRockySituation posted:Lol why and which part It's a wide sloppy crescent that extends from Paulsboro to Trenton, mostly around the 130/295 corridor. Why? I don't know. Sometimes adults just inculcate hatred into young people and there's no real reason
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Apr 11, 2022 02:34
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ASAPRockySituation posted:That area is basically the rich suburbs of Philly so Yeah tell me Camden is a rich suburb
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Apr 11, 2022 02:35
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Camden is Philly in all but name
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Apr 11, 2022 02:36
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:
Give it enough time, and the problem will solve itself once the river eventually finds the shortest possible path across the peninsula, and the river bend becomes an oxbow lake! 
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SlothfulCobra posted:In the early history of the US, New York got the name of the Empire State was because it aggressively tried to push its borders as far as possible, duking it out with every surrounding state, and stopping Vermont from being part of the initial US because they were still trying to lay their claim to that land. It's kind of ironic how today upstate New York is an often-forgotten thing in the shadow of the city, because they fought really hard to stake it out.
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Apr 11, 2022 02:42
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https://twitter.com/TerribleMaps/status/1513285847365341194
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Apr 11, 2022 03:59
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Private Speech posted:Why does everyone hate on New Jersey so much, anyway? I think of the overall Tri-state/NYC metropolitan area it just gets most of the negative stereotypes dumped on it. Some of it deserved. Lots of it just running gags.
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Apr 11, 2022 04:17
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I've spent enough time in the various portions of south jersey to have a non-specific hatred of it. Camden's probably the best part of south jersey. ASAPRockySituation posted:That area is basically the rich suburbs of Philly so Lmao they wish they were the rich suburbs of philly the rich suburbs of philly are "We were rich before this country was created" rich "Please do not look our horse in the eyes, its food cost more than you make in a year" rich
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GoutPatrol posted:Many people have a bad image for NJ because they only see the industrial hellscape around Newark airport. Whats with the yellow salient and blue enclave north of what I think is Staten island?
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Apr 11, 2022 06:33
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That technically I think is Newark Bay? Hudson County is a peninsula.
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Vavrek posted:I did not actually say "What the gently caress." out loud when I parsed the map, but the emotion was there. Amateurs.   Two German exclaves in Belgium. The Vennbahn cuts through them. Antigravitas fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Apr 11, 2022 |
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Apr 11, 2022 08:09
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Where’s the one that’s just one house? e: Rückschlag, south of there, 50.5976, 6.2474, or, if you prefer, Auf Aderich 33 
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Apr 11, 2022 08:16
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Private Speech posted:Why does everyone hate on New Jersey so much, anyway? I'm not either, but I'd guess it has a lot to do with the fact that New Jersey's biggest population centres are suburbs of either New York or Philadelphia, so it's a state mostly characterised by sprawl, a stereotype of suburban middle-class aspirations similar to the stereotypes about e.g. Essex in England and of course the shores.
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Apr 11, 2022 08:58
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Private Speech posted:Why does everyone hate on New Jersey so much, anyway? Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Jersey Shore Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Jersey drivers are the worst, though. I see a Jersey license plate I'm assuming they're going to gently caress things up somehow
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Nah this hatred runs much deeper and longer than that. The show only made it worse.
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If you're not familiar with the area, it's hard to overstate the impact of Jersey drivers on your perceptions. If you live in the Delaware Valley and drive, someone with a bright yellow New Jersey license plate on their vehicle will almost kill you on a very regular basis. Over months and years of these encounters a certain bad feeling does build up, it can't be avoided.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:I'm not either, but I'd guess it has a lot to do with the fact that New Jersey's biggest population centres are suburbs of either New York or Philadelphia, so it's a state mostly characterised by sprawl, a stereotype of suburban middle-class aspirations similar to the stereotypes about e.g. Essex in England and of course the shores. From what I've heard English people talk about people from Essex, it's a very similar stereotype.
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Wonder if they’ll ever merge Austin and San Antonio
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Badger of Basra posted:Wonder if they’ll ever merge Austin and San Antonio It's not even listed as a combined statistical area so probably not.
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Apr 11, 2022 18:59
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Private Speech posted:Why does everyone hate on New Jersey so much, anyway? It is the only place ive ever driven where someone used a sidewalk as a right hand turn lane
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Badger of Basra posted:Wonder if they’ll ever merge Austin and San Antonio Probably not officially but the next time MLB and the NFL expand, they'll be treated as one market so they don't have to give franchises to both cities.
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