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squirrelzipper posted:So I haven't played my SAM that much, but don't these changes mean that DNC won't bother with Closed on SAM if there's another option? Why buff crit chance if all the big hits auto-crit. I'll have to play a bit but I don't think I really like these changes.
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Dr Pepper posted:Have you done your job quests yet you weirdo. I've been trying to catch up on the Endwalker role quests for the 6.1 capstone questline. I've fallen behind on Monk though from doing MSQ and PvP dailies so i need to do the Heavenward questline to catch up before i take it back into dungeons. In the meantime i'm doing the dungeon dailies on Samurai. Is the final role quest available tomorrow or is that in a later patch?
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I liked Kaiten and am sad it's gone but the other Samurai changes are kinda baffling. A massive decrease in burst windows and potency per kenki in exchange for more filler GCD damage is a weird choice and makes the job less interesting.
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Apr 11, 2022 22:23
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The iaijutsu animation looks really bad when you don't clip kaiten into it. There's some glows that start before the actual sheath and it's just kind of slow and low energy.
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WrightOfWay posted:I liked Kaiten and am sad it's gone but the other Samurai changes are kinda baffling. A massive decrease in burst windows and potency per kenki in exchange for more filler GCD damage is a weird choice and makes the job less interesting. I don't raid on Samurai, but is it a concern that with the auto crits their damage spike is too high in burst windows with raid buffs? Also without Kaiten it would be easier to pool kenki for the burst window as well.
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Apr 11, 2022 22:41
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Yeah that's literally their stated reasoning. Samurai performance swings too heavily based on their burst crit, and they wanted to normalize it some.
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Apr 11, 2022 22:52
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WrightOfWay posted:I liked Kaiten and am sad it's gone but the other Samurai changes are kinda baffling. A massive decrease in burst windows and potency per kenki in exchange for more filler GCD damage is a weird choice and makes the job less interesting. Does it actually math out to a massive decrease though The absolute biggest hit you could land will be less than it was pre-patch, sure, but you're never going to get those frustrating no-crit burst phases again either.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Yeah that's literally their stated reasoning. Samurai performance swings too heavily based on their burst crit, and they wanted to normalize it some. Weird that they felt no need to do the same for dancer, whose parses are hugely dependent on tech step crits.
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I was a little apprehensive when the NIN changes were announced, but I’m really happy with them. The opener doesn’t really change, you were popping Mug about a GCD before Trick anyways. Sure, my allotment of free rDPS is halved, but that’s not something you really feel in the moment, and personal DPS is boosted to compensate! Also I don’t have to try and creep forward to land Doton anymore.
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Bruceski posted:I'm up to 45m now (I've had some lucky drops in Eureka, a three-line catbook, stuff like that, but probably half of it has just collected over time) and since I'm no longer allowed to buy the house I was watching, I got nothing else to do with it. I'm curious, as someone who enjoyed Eureka (playing through it just before EW at least, I wasn't around when it was current) and is considering getting a second Eureka weapon, what tend to be the big ticket Eureka items on the MB?
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DanielCross posted:I'm curious, as someone who enjoyed Eureka (playing through it just before EW at least, I wasn't around when it was current) and is considering getting a second Eureka weapon, what tend to be the big ticket Eureka items on the MB? Cassie Earring and the Speed Ring are usually the big ones. Boutique Batiste is also currently going for a goodly sum on most servers, since the shirt made from it had the genderlock removed this patch. Bunny Chests are also pretty decent gil in general, with the only restriction normally being that it's a bit tedious to do.
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DanielCross posted:I'm curious, as someone who enjoyed Eureka (playing through it just before EW at least, I wasn't around when it was current) and is considering getting a second Eureka weapon, what tend to be the big ticket Eureka items on the MB? eldthurs mount (pyros bunnies), petrel mount (hydatos bunnies) rare drop items required to gain the extra magicite - Lamebrix's Dice, Ying-Yang's Tissue, Skoll's Claw in pyros, Molech's Horn, Goldemar's Horn, Ceto's Claw in hydatos. blitzring, rare drop from crab in pagos cassie's earring, rare drop from cassie in pagos curative logograms are 1k/pop offensive logograms are 3k/pop mitigative logograms are 5k/pop obscure logograms are 10k/pop protective logograms are 13k/pop
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DanielCross posted:I'm curious, as someone who enjoyed Eureka (playing through it just before EW at least, I wasn't around when it was current) and is considering getting a second Eureka weapon, what tend to be the big ticket Eureka items on the MB? Mostly stuff from bunny fates and mutation lockboxes- mounts, hairstyles, emotes, etc. I guess if you run BA all the time you can sell the stuff for the kirin's osode too
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Thundarr posted:Does it actually math out to a massive decrease though It's not a decrease on its own, but it is a decrease if you play with any job with crit party buffs which is what I think is the super lame part of it
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Mainwaring posted:Weird that they felt no need to do the same for dancer, whose parses are hugely dependent on tech step crits. That's because dancer is a support focused ranged dps who's constant buffing others' dps and not the melee equivalent of black mage. More leeway on DNCs is fine because you're also making the heavy dps classes do more.
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Thundarr posted:Does it actually math out to a massive decrease though It's a very small decrease on it's own assuming you don't pool kenki or crit any of the 5 Midare/Tsubame/Namikiris, in which case it's a bit larger of a decrease. Considering the slow SAM BIS has a 25% crit rate, that's fairly unlikely, and massively unlikely if you have any crit buffs. It's actually closer than I thought in a non-crit comp, though it really sucks with one.
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DanielCross posted:I'm curious, as someone who enjoyed Eureka (playing through it just before EW at least, I wasn't around when it was current) and is considering getting a second Eureka weapon, what tend to be the big ticket Eureka items on the MB? In my case it was one of the eyes for the optical hat (lucky bunny chest) and one of the items for expanding the inventory (Skol's claw I think?) Anything a fate boss drops will usually sell, at least it did a year ago.
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https://twitter.com/roefizzlebeef/status/1513651772581154826?s=20&t=Dri-d9r0CHKhVtN2rSHNuA
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what's the go-to community for pvp stuff now? i'm probably gonna play a good chunk at least for a bit and i'd like to see what's up
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RIP to anyone hoping for meaningful MCH buffs, with those little potency increases, I think someone mathed it out to... a 2.39% dps increase. Still rock bottom DPS
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Countblanc posted:what's the go-to community for pvp stuff now? i'm probably gonna play a good chunk at least for a bit and i'd like to see what's up The only one i know of is the Revival discord.
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A Moose posted:RIP to anyone hoping for meaningful MCH buffs, with those little potency increases, I think someone mathed it out to... a 2.39% dps increase. Still rock bottom DPS yeah i saw that and was pretty disappointed. a no-strings buff is still welcome since i wasn't struggling to clear DPS checks but as someone who picked up rdps for the first time in EW I gotta say the ranged tax is feeling more and more absurd for MCH CJ posted:The only one i know of is the Revival discord. makes sense
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A Moose posted:RIP to anyone hoping for meaningful MCH buffs, with those little potency increases, I think someone mathed it out to... a 2.39% dps increase. Still rock bottom DPS 
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I suppose they justify it by MCH being really really easy to play, so a bad MCH will do more dps than a bad BLM or whatever
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Mainwaring posted:Weird that they felt no need to do the same for dancer, whose parses are hugely dependent on tech step crits. 
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Let the crits crit imo.
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A Moose posted:RIP to anyone hoping for meaningful MCH buffs, with those little potency increases, I think someone mathed it out to... a 2.39% dps increase. Still rock bottom DPS Yeah... yeah.  At least DNC is fun and the gear is 1:1, aside from weapon.
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But gosh does Dancer feel good when everything crits
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A Moose posted:I suppose they justify it by MCH being really really easy to play, so a bad MCH will do more dps than a bad BLM or whatever MCH has always been more about using a small amount of buttons REALLY HARD, and being more time-intensive than any other job. I wouldn't call that easy, just a different type of hard.
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A Moose posted:I suppose they justify it by MCH being really really easy to play, so a bad MCH will do more dps than a bad BLM or whatever Is it? BLM rotation is basically braindead once it gets rolling, the difficulty is all in other things. And that's before you bring in SMN, which basically doesn't even have cast times!
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Bad BLMs are like MCH autoattack level, and if you haven't seen that in pf or df I don't believe you.
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i don't think i've seen any blms in pf. the class seems abandoned by the wider playerbase.
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BLM is the best class so it makes sense that only the highest tier of loving idiots like myself choose to play as one.
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I've got one guy in my Sunday groups who plays BLM. His main mechanic seems to be complaining about it.
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Countblanc posted:i don't think i've seen any blms in pf. the class seems abandoned by the wider playerbase. All the reddit memes might make more than a few people nervous about joining a pug group
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TheWorldsaStage posted:But gosh does Dancer feel good when everything crits It sure is! And then everybody else catches up to you after your opener anyway.
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Since I always bring BLM to party finder groups I actually have no idea what other PF BLMs are like except very occasionally in "we're just getting our feet wet" learning parties.
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Look, MCH is arguably the best class for PotD solo, and that's why they need to be terrible in 8 man content.
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Does BLM's rotation still change radically at different level ranges? I never really tried it to know how much truth there was to that but people sure said it a lot, enough to scare me away and probably many others too
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Any attempt to say BLM and MCH are on the same level is dumb. BLM has a very easy rotation but has a lot of long casts that mean if you mess up you're losing a GCD or more. You have a lot of tools to mitigate that which mean that a well-played BLM effectively doesn't have a serious drawback but that's the key there. A BLM who knows when to use their instacasts and knows how to position properly is going to be very very effective because the challenge with BLM isn't memorizing your rotation, it is knowing when to use your resources. MCH does not have that drawback. There is optimization and room to improve for certain but their base floor is much much higher than BLM because they have free movement at all times. Any given BLM has to both know how to clear mechanics AND how to make sure they can keep attack while doing that, a MCH just has to do the latter.
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