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The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Trickjaw posted:

Well, apparently, tbe government feels because of my medical condition, I get free lfts. They came a few days ago, no one told me and tge parents stole them.

The first time I read this post, I read it as "522773640"]
Well, apparently, tbe government feels because of my medical condition, I get free tits."

Really changed the meaning.

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The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!
I loving wish!!

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

The government is in fact in favour of this, as long as the medical condition is "being a trans man"

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
ok i know that american political cartoons are always way too over-labelled and over-explained but what is goin gon in this one

why is the cop screaming porridge? whta

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


bump_fn posted:

why is the cop screaming porridge? whta
It's (old) slang for prison

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Borrovan posted:

It's (old) slang for prison

weird. is it like a rhyming slang thing or ...?

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Porridge is old slang for time in prison.

E: Beaten. I only know it from watching reruns of the 70s Ronnie Barker sitcom when I was a kid.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

bump_fn posted:

weird. is it like a rhyming slang thing or ...?

No, it's just because porridge was something you wound up eating a lot of in prison

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

bump_fn posted:

weird. is it like a rhyming slang thing or ...?

Porky pies is though (lies)

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
So much prison slang is embedded in day to day British idioms, almost as if the whole island itself is a prison.

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

OzyMandrill posted:

Turns out that clockwork orange has a decent smattering of slavic, which is helping slightly in learning Ukrainian. Moloko is milk, and droog means friend. Maybe Anthony Burgess only got to the 3rd level in duolingo too.

Iirc the reason in the book was cultural osmosis from propoganda and cultural stations that the young people listened to, in a similar manner to people picking up random snippets of pidgin English from songs and movies. My impression is that Burgess was aiming to establish Britain was remaining in it's post war backwater state, as part of the overall degredation in the book.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


keep punching joe posted:

So much prison slang is embedded in day to day British idioms, almost as if the whole island itself is a prison.

Alright Mr Foucault, let's be 'avin' you

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

mrpwase posted:

Alright Mr Foucault, let's be 'avin' you

Possession of a pendulum you say, eh

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
Got a loicence fer thet penderlum, do you?

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012
Yew could ‘ave someone’s eye out with that!

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Steve of Bracknell making a complete rear end of himself in public:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzCtUDIxZA4

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I think that the term "porridge" comes from the fact that at some point prisoners were fed gruel.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
So this claiming for WFH expenses if you were supposed to / told to by your employer:

quote:

How much you can claim
You can either claim tax relief on:

£6 a week from 6 April 2020 (for previous tax years the rate is £4 a week) - you will not need to keep evidence of your extra costs
the exact amount of extra costs you’ve incurred above the weekly amount - you’ll need evidence such as receipts, bills or contracts
You’ll get tax relief based on the rate at which you pay tax. For example, if you pay the 20% basic rate of tax and claim tax relief on £6 a week you would get £1.20 per week in tax relief (20% of £6).


Seems that as I do not earn enough to pay tax (part-timer), I can't make a claim despite having the same extra demand on my fuels as someone earning more (particularly as you can apparently claim it even if you only WFH 1 day in the year)!
(Not so worried about myself, but the millions of other people on part-time etc hours who are in the same boat where an extra £62.50 would be a valuable extra!)

Have I missed something?


Comrade Fakename posted:

I think that the term "porridge" comes from the fact that at some point prisoners were fed gruel.

I googled and came across some interesting info:

quote:

The comedy found its name from the 1950s expression ‘doing porridge’ which meant serving a jail sentence. Porridge used to be a significant part of a prisoner’s diet, but news has emerged that the breakfast food has now been banned in prisons for over a decade.

Prisoners at HMC Parc have told the prison paper ‘Inmate Inside’ that oatmeal is not permitted because it can be used to block up door locks. They are, however, allowed to purchase ‘Ready Brek’ from the canteen because of its thinner consistency. Porridge is also banned because oats can be fermented to produce illicit hooch.


source: https://oxbridgeapplications.com/kyc/prison-porridge


Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Apr 13, 2022

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I guess you can't get relief from tax you aren't paying.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

quote:

Prisoners at HMC Parc have told the prison paper ‘Inmate Inside’ that oatmeal is not permitted because it can be used to block up door locks. They are, however, allowed to purchase ‘Ready Brek’ from the canteen because of its thinner consistency.

Ready Brek, fancy stuff. Like bloody holiday camps modern prisons are.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
This is a really weird demonstration of a generational/cultural divide because "Porridge" is extremely well-known slang for prison among Gen X and boomers because of the wildly-successful and perma-repeated sitcom of that name. I guess the posters confused about the term just don't watch much broadcast telly.

And because I can't stop myself enthusing about old TV - it's another of those "Couldn't make it now" kinda shows not because of wokeness or some poo poo but because the figures of authority are the bad guys, and the prisoners regularly win small victories over them, and that just isn't allowed nowadays. It's odd just how much more authoritarian and status-quo-enforcing mass media has got since the 90s. It also perfected the alternative sitcom format a decade before people generally accepted it to have even started - this is a comedy about men in prison, not a suburban middle-class couple, and episodes like A Night In - which is literally the two main characters talking after lights out - are rightfully held up as genuine classics of acting and directing and completely subverting the norms of how sitcoms are supposed to be written and performed.

There are some jokes that clang a bit to modern ears (the token gay and black characters in particular, although both are also given more fleshed-out characters and storylines later) but when it's good it's really loving good.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


keep punching joe posted:

Ready Brek, fancy stuff. Like bloody holiday camps modern prisons are.

I remember breakfast being cereal or muesli and then a special treat on the weekend, beans on toast.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Well we established before that Ready Brek is middle-class, therefore all prisoners are middle-class. Further proof that this class hierarchy thing is a useful way of looking at society.

I liked the earlier musings about class as a relationship to the State tho

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
I was reading about ashley cole being robbed in his home and them demanding "kettles" which apparently means watches. I would have given them my kettle.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1514222411792723968?t=kpydN7k81iXuiX2woXgtag&s=19

Anyone buying Private Eye should probably stop at this point.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Private Eye is the new name for the hole that you piss out of because the old name was racist.

Borrovan posted:

I was speculating yesterday whether class nowadays might be better analysed in terms of a person's relationship to the State, rather than capital.

Failed Imagineer posted:

I liked the earlier musings about class as a relationship to the State tho
:same:

I was thinking earlier wrt

OwlFancier posted:

I've said it before but while capitalism may be poo poo, if it offered you like an 80% chance of having probably the best quality of life that has been available to most humans throughout history, as long as you worked for a while at a high paying job enough to own a house and a pension and all the other poo poo the boomers mostly have
that most of that stuff didn't come directly via capitalism, but via capital directed by the apparatus of the state. The greatest increase in quality of life regarding access to houses, pensions, jobs for life with career paths, and

OwlFancier posted:

all the other poo poo the boomers mostly have
was in the mid-70s, because while it wasn't a great decade for number going up, and therefore a poo poo decade to be a landlord, stockbroker, or newspaper owner (and therefore remembered in perpetuity as a poo poo decade) it was the best decade measurements exist for in terms of people going from living in a space without indoor plumbing or decent heating to a space with those, and for teenagers leaving school with qualifications in english and maths, and for workplace satisfaction, and a huge part of that was through the welfare state, the NHS, and those national industries that were derided as loss making and decrepit but actually provided value for money in human investment.

Not a great time for racism and homophobia, but the narrative that "the National Front were massive in '74 and then their vote collapsed in '79" conveniently ignores who all those fascists were voting for in '79 and what happened then.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016

goddamnedtwisto posted:

[Porridge] is a really weird demonstration of a generational/cultural divide
:ssh: IIRC the OP, forgive me if I have this wrong, is an Am*rican living in the UK.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

It's odd just how much more authoritarian and status-quo-enforcing mass media has got since the 90s.
I would posit it's an entirely predictable consequence of neoliberal capitalism. As the contradictions heighten, and all that. Gotta keep pointing fingers. Panglossian. It's of a piece with people shrieking about empty shelves and authoritarianism under socialism when it's literally happening under not-socialism. The BBC was supposedly a hive of leftwingery (doesn't matter if this is true or not, nor is it explained why this would be bad, somehow), thus must be brought to heel and eventually privatised anyway, and so on.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Guavanaut posted:

Not a great time for racism and homophobia, but the narrative that "the National Front were massive in '74 and then their vote collapsed in '79" conveniently ignores who all those fascists were voting for in '79 and what happened then.
Given that history ended shortly afterwards, I would assume that they all became nice and don't worry about it, also you're being antisemitic by pointing this out.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Very annoyed that seeing as the hospital installed a catheter that they did not leave the cannula also, else I would hook it up to a can of irn bru and become the perfect, immortal poster, orange goes in one end and comes out the other end and I don't have to do anything.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
Yeah, been musing on this, the boomers as a class have the poo poo they have not because of capitalism (although they themselves will happily tell you it was :actually: because of their hard work) but because of postwar social democracy and the welfare state.

Of course ever since '79 they've been crapulously gorging themselves on yummy seedcorn, cooked over fires of burning pulled-up ladders, washed down with lashings of generational resentment and latent racism.

Again, as a class, of course. I'm sure your relatives are lovely, dear reader, as are mine.

I could cite my sources but if yer upset by this, my recommendation, as a not-real fake doctor on TV, that you vote for neoliberals for forty years about it.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Only Kindness posted:

:ssh: IIRC the OP, forgive me if I have this wrong, is an Am*rican living in the UK.

Yeah, I speculated on that in my first draft then just folded it into the "cultural divide" bit, because even a septic who watched any amount of broadcast TV would have seen at least adverts/trailers for Porridge on Dave - and a few other people seemed not to have heard of the show either, which gave me a chance to talk about TV made before I was even born.

Only Kindness posted:

I would posit it's an entirely predictable consequence of neoliberal capitalism. As the contradictions heighten, and all that. Gotta keep pointing fingers. Panglossian. It's of a piece with people shrieking about empty shelves and authoritarianism under socialism when it's literally happening under not-socialism. The BBC was supposedly a hive of leftwingery (doesn't matter if this is true or not, nor is it explained why this would be bad, somehow), thus must be brought to heel and eventually privatised anyway, and so on.

I'm not sure if that's the cause, or (my personal theory) an effect of all of the shouty anti-Thatcherite scions of the 80s alternative comedy boom now being very much The Establishment, with their enrichment coming along with the Blair years meaning they're not even aware that now they instantly take the side of Authority while still believing themselves to be radicals.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Social democracy is still capitalism, if only as evidenced by the fact that a lot of their current tendency stems from thatcher selling them all the council houses etc, the state may direct some capital but it can also direct it back into the hands of actual capital holders.

Hence my point that capitalism can afford some people a decent life, it's just that eventually you run out of other people's money.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Yeah, I speculated on that in my first draft then just folded it into the "cultural divide" bit, because even a septic who watched any amount of broadcast TV would have seen at least adverts/trailers for Porridge on Dave - and a few other people seemed not to have heard of the show either, which gave me a chance to talk about TV made before I was even born.

And is it not said, "when there is Porridge on Dave, it is always the one with the pineapple chunks"

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:

Private Eye is the new name for the hole that you piss out of because the old name was racist.

:hmmyes:

This song will never be the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsntlJZ9h1U

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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lol, the private eye piece on Owen Jones being referred to here is being wildly touted in his mentions by homophobic terfy types as a smoking gun that will put him away for good:



Not exactly the Nixon tapes, is it?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
I wonder how much of the “bullying” was down to calling TERFs TERFs

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



goddamnedtwisto posted:

This is a really weird demonstration of a generational/cultural divide because "Porridge" is extremely well-known slang for prison among Gen X and boomers because of the wildly-successful and perma-repeated sitcom of that name. I guess the posters confused about the term just don't watch much broadcast telly.

And because I can't stop myself enthusing about old TV - it's another of those "Couldn't make it now" kinda shows not because of wokeness or some poo poo but because the figures of authority are the bad guys, and the prisoners regularly win small victories over them, and that just isn't allowed nowadays. It's odd just how much more authoritarian and status-quo-enforcing mass media has got since the 90s. It also perfected the alternative sitcom format a decade before people generally accepted it to have even started - this is a comedy about men in prison, not a suburban middle-class couple, and episodes like A Night In - which is literally the two main characters talking after lights out - are rightfully held up as genuine classics of acting and directing and completely subverting the norms of how sitcoms are supposed to be written and performed.

There are some jokes that clang a bit to modern ears (the token gay and black characters in particular, although both are also given more fleshed-out characters and storylines later) but when it's good it's really loving good.

I wonder if this was the idea behind A Quiet Night In, the Inside No. 9 episode. 2 criminals breaking into a house at night, but rather than only talking they're not talking at all.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Julio Cruz posted:

I wonder how much of the “bullying” was down to calling TERFs TERFs

All of it, to the extent that the rule the independent investigator finds he's broken is the one they bring in after realising he hasn't broken a rule the first time. Laughable stuff.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If the terf rag were whingeing about me I would consider it a point in my favour tbh.

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Nov 17, 2011

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Niric posted:

I'm not sure I'm a fan of this terse, gnomic iteration of ronya in general, but this seems particularly problematic given fairly static Green party polling over a good number of years for example , and I'm not sure I see much policy or even political signalling that suggests a substantial advance on Cameron hugging a husky as the answer to vague voter discomfort.

Same. I enjoyed it more when they talked more about stuff or, at minimum, defined terms. Instead we get things that are very much not explained in any way.

OwlFancier posted:

If the terf rag were whingeing about me I would consider it a point in my favour tbh.

That's very true. The Guardian is an absolute pile of wank.

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