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Neat! Linking the SAMart thread here, mostly for my own reference when I get off work so I can order: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3594506&perpage=40&noseen=1
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I bought a 1z K-Max grinder and it is hilariously large and heavy.
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other people posted:I bought a 1z K-Max grinder and it is hilariously large and heavy. I too got this and it's awesome
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Apr 13, 2022 19:41
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I haven't used it yet but seriously is it not possible to make a good grinder that is say 1/3 of this size? It looks like it is trying to be some military-grade thing I could drop out of an airplane and still use but I just want to grind up some beans without a lot of dust. It's almost as big as our mokapot.
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Apr 13, 2022 20:27
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They do sell travel grinders. It won't be good for espresso.
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other people posted:I haven't used it yet but seriously is it not possible to make a good grinder that is say 1/3 of this size? It looks like it is trying to be some military-grade thing I could drop out of an airplane and still use but I just want to grind up some beans without a lot of dust. It's almost as big as our mokapot. my travel grinder is an aergrind, which is designed to fit neatly inside an aeropress. the tradeoff is always burr size, which does affect grind quality but also, maybe more important for a manual grinder, speed. the aergrind is much faster than a ceramic burr grinder like a hario but it still takes a solid minute of cranking to grind through a hopperfull of beans
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Apr 14, 2022 03:38
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Capacity as well. If you're never grinding more than like 15g of coffee, having the space on the top and bottom for 30-40g is wasted space.
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today I learned the impact of different filter papers. I just used the papers that was packed with the v60 drip decanter from factory, and after those ran out I had to buy new ones. I ended up with the tabbed (?) japanese papers from Hario that comes in a bag of 100, and even though I used the exact same grind setting and procedure for a single cup 18g/300g brew as with the old filters, the coffee today tastes slightly under extracted. I think I saw that the drawdown went a bit quicker as well. not that I'm complaining, because that means I can finally grind a bit finer for the v60, and I also have an excuse to whip up a second cup for the day later on
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Gaggia Classic update: Got some fresher, medium roasted espresso blends. I disassembled and cleaned my Lido E and did a burr alignment. I also cobbled together a pressure tester…the thread on the spout is 3/8 NPT, so a 3/8 NPT to 1/4 inch pipe adapter plus a cheap pressure gauge works fine.  Stock pressure was about 11.5 bar, after I turned the OPV down to 9 the shots tasted a lot less harsh. I also got a VST basket. The coffee has improved dramatically. Next upgrades will be a PID and bottomless porta filter. I’m still chasing consistent perfect shots but the milk drinks I’ve made have been as good as anything I’ve ever had. And the process is not as tiresome as I thought it would be. Temp surfing is the biggest pain in the rear end. When should I start my timer? Right when I flip the switch? When the pump starts to sound labored? When liquid comes out? i own every Bionicle fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Apr 14, 2022 |
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Apr 14, 2022 15:17
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Would love some advice. Not looking to spend any money, and get the best results I can. At work we have a Bodum pour over, and a cheap generic gooseneck, and access to hot water. At home I have an Encore grinder (calibrated to finest setting, used for espresso, grinds espresso around 10) nice light roasted beans, and #4 paper filters. Since I can’t gently caress with my grind much in the moment, and weighing water won’t be an option, how do I optimize without spending anything? Ideal workflow is grind at home, then bring paper filter and wing it with volumetric measurements for the water. The thing I’m most unsure about is grind size and bean/water ratio.
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Apr 15, 2022 03:32
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First thought is to drop $15 on a cheap coffee scale so at least you can be empirical in your attempts Second thought is to steal the Bodum and gooseneck for a weekend so you can dial in at home, but then you better be first in the office Monday so it's not missed
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I don't know much about dialing your Encore in for espresso. Are you saying you can't change from the current setting because it will throw off the grind size if you dial back to 10? If so I'm not sure how much success you're going to get doing a pourover with an espresso grind. As for ratios, I typically stick with something around 1g/ml of water : 15g of coffee, but that doesn't have to bet set in stone. If you have a clear water bottle you don't care about maybe you can weigh weigh like 300g/300ml (or however much you need) of water at home and mark where that is on the bottle, but you're going to lose a lot of heat transferring hot water into the bottle, then into a gooseneck. You might just have to try that once to see where the water level sits in the gooseneck and see if you can use something in the kettle to ballpark it. Does it have a min/max line? The Postman fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Apr 15, 2022 |
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Apr 15, 2022 12:47
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Would love some advice. Your grind is probably too fine for normal pour over. It will choke and/or overextract. But if you brew with a lot less water, like 1:8 or something (like 130 grams of water for 16 grams of beans), you can probably get a very strong but properly extracted pour over that you can then dilute with hot water. Weigh grinds at home and put them in dosed containers if you want to be that particular. If you can measure the volume of water, that’s as good as measuring the weight of it. Brew with 4.5 oz water, dilute, enjoy. If you can’t measure volume, you could probably get the feel for how high up into the cone you pour, then time the drawdown, and after like 2 minutes of brewing remove the dropper and throw out whatever is still in the cone because it will be  You’ll definitely have to experiment with the amount of water and beans but it should dial in without too much trouble. Too sour, more water. Too bitter/astringent, less water.
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Sorry for not being clear. I mean I can’t easily make quick adjustments and try again as my grinder is at home and the brewer at work, and I have no idea where to start grind settings wise on my encore. I can definitely change the grind setting.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Sorry for not being clear. If you're making espresso at 10 on an encore, pourover is probably going to be near the top of the range. An immersion brew like a french press or clever dripper might be a bit easier to pull off, especially since it won't be as dependent on getting the grind dialed in. For water, either bring a scale or measuring cup, or any cup of known volume, to work, or measure out your water at home and bring it in a bottle. If that sounds crazy, make your coffee at home and bring it to work in a good thermos - a zojirushi will keep it too hot to drink until at least the early afternoon. Or just eyeball your volume measurements. If you pay attention to how much water is going in, you can get a consistent enough ratio to make perfectly fine coffee. I don't want to say "you're overthinking this" because that's what the thread is really about, but you're kind of overthinking this.
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Don't bring a zojirushi. It's so much sweeter getting paid while making coffee at work.
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I would think about the 4:6 method then. If you’re not familiar, basically you grind super coarse and do 5 pours. So for 20 grams of coffee, pour in 60 grams of hot water 5 times. Let the cone drain completely each time. It’s easier with scales but I’d think with some practice it would be pretty easy to eyeball. Plus, I would think coarse ground coffee would stale more slowly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oivTEfBW47Q
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Get a cheap Bodum Bistro burr grinder for the office? Used ones go for like 30 bucks and they're more than adequate for pourover. Canuck-Errant fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Apr 15, 2022 |
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Canuck-Errant posted:Get a cheap Bodum Bistro burr grinder for the office? im with hypnophant, do the literal opposite of this: pourover is the most finnicky poo poo you can possibly do that isn't espresso and suffers from lovely grinders, just buy a french press or an aeropress or anything else that will not cause constant additional work
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hypnophant posted:If that sounds crazy, make your coffee at home and bring it to work in a good thermos - a zojirushi will keep it too hot to drink until at least the early afternoon. Or just eyeball your volume measurements. If you pay attention to how much water is going in, you can get a consistent enough ratio to make perfectly fine coffee. I don't want to say "you're overthinking this" because that's what the thread is really about, but you're kind of overthinking this. I’m insane (or self medicating undiagnosed ADHD), and come to work with 4 espresso shots in my zoji. This whole process is to get over the after lunch hump. I just kinda went for it, and I guess I got lucky cause it came out pretty drat well For my first shot. This is my first time attempting any kind of pour over. I ended up just bringing a cheap extra kitchen scale to make things easier. I followed Hoffman ultimate v60. 30g, ground at 25 on my calibrated encore. Paper filer (rinsed) over the metal filter. Bloom struggled a bit, dunno why. Put my 60ml of water in, and it filtered through too quick to get that slurry. Put another 20ml in and still didn’t really get a good slurry, but just rolled with it. Wasn’t much offgassing on the next pour. Ended drawdown at 3:33. Coffee was very good, good enough to drink black (which I rarely do). Little under-extracted for my liking, but since the draw down ended so perfectly I may keep the grind size and push up to 35g in. Also it had that papery filter taste. Any way to push that out a little more? I did a quick rinse with the hot water from the kettle, but it didn’t seem to pull enough of the paper flavor out.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:I’m insane (or self medicating undiagnosed ADHD), and come to work with 4 espresso shots in my zoji. This whole process is to get over the after lunch hump. I will try not to lecture here but I do want to point out that caffeine has a pretty long half-life in the body (5+ hours) which means if you have 4 cups of coffee in the morning, you still have about 1 cup equivalent of caffeine in your system over 15 hours later. I adore coffee but trying to treat tiredness with larger and larger doses of caffeine quickly reaches the point of being counterproductive. Bloom is going to be a bit weaker since the co2 is going to dissolve out of the bean very fast, it's why preground doesn't bloom at all. For the papery taste, it could be because you're making the coffee a bit weaker than you're used to so the paper taste isn't as covered up. You can run it under cold water from the tap for a minute or two which should take care of it, and then just preheat with water from the kettle.
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y'all talking about pourovers during passover
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hypnophant posted:For the papery taste, it could be because you're making the coffee a bit weaker than you're used to so the paper taste isn't as covered up. You can run it under cold water from the tap for a minute or two which should take care of it, and then just preheat with water from the kettle. Thanks for this. Updosed to 31.5g, ran the filter under the faucet for 1.5 minutes, paper taste completely gone.
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If you're looking for a manual grinder the Timemore C2 Max is on sale for $42. https://www.amazon.com/TIMEMORE-Chestnut-C2-Adjustable-Coarseness/dp/B092MDTGGR?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1
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Mu Zeta posted:If you're looking for a manual grinder the Timemore C2 Max is on sale for $42. I wasn't, but I bought one anyway. Thanks!
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Happy Easter! Sloppy shot warning. https://i.imgur.com/L2XmqbL.mp4
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Is there a meaningful difference between the straight and curled tip WDTs?
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i don’t like the little loops on the tips, they seem to drag big furrows through the bed and make it harder to get an even distribution. the needle ones are best unless you’re worried about stabbing yourself
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My partner got me one with the loops as a gift. I'll look at trimming them. The gauge is .23. so fairly thin.
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I have one of those ones that had loops on it and clipped them off. I've seen talk saying those ones (they are all probably made in the same place), are still too thick to be effective. I ended up buying a 3d printed one off Etsy that uses 3d printer nozzle cleaning needles and it seems to do a better job. Possible placebo, so who knows.
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Bandire posted:I have one of those ones that had loops on it and clipped them off. I've seen talk saying those ones (they are all probably made in the same place), are still too thick to be effective. I ended up buying a 3d printed one off Etsy that uses 3d printer nozzle cleaning needles and it seems to do a better job. Possible placebo, so who knows. this is what i did after using the tool that came with my grinder (which had loops) for a while. i agree the 3dp tool is easier to use and seems to do a better job, but any wdt tool is better than no tool and the 3dp tool isn’t so much better that there’s an urgent need to upgrade.
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Hi there! After about a week of watching James Hoffman videos at 1.25x speed, I'm upgrading from my Moka Pot and Hario Skerton to a Flair Neo and this grinder. Have I made a terrible mistake? What would you say is the cheapest automatic burr grinder that can produce good espresso?
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Qylvaran posted:Hi there! After about a week of watching James Hoffman videos at 1.25x speed, I'm upgrading from my Moka Pot and Hario Skerton to a Flair Neo and this grinder. Have I made a terrible mistake? What would you say is the cheapest automatic burr grinder that can produce good espresso? you have done excellent if you can hold off on an electric grinder, i would wait until the encore esp becomes available later this year and see how it reviews. if you can’t wait, the baratza sette 270 ($400) is the cheapest option (other than looking for something used) but it’s tough to recommend. cheapest best is maybe a eureka mignon or baratza vario, and the niche zero is also very good value, but getting out of the range most would consider cheap.
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Qylvaran posted:Hi there! After about a week of watching James Hoffman videos at 1.25x speed, I'm upgrading from my Moka Pot and Hario Skerton to a Flair Neo and this grinder. Have I made a terrible mistake? What would you say is the cheapest automatic burr grinder that can produce good espresso? I just got that grinder and started using it with my Flair Neo and it's been great. I have an Encore with the burr upgrade and I'm getting way better results and control out of the manual grinder so far.
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would this grinder be worth stopping by the store for? It's a lot less than $400.The Postman posted:I just got that grinder and started using it with my Flair Neo and it's been great. I have an Encore with the burr upgrade and I'm getting way better results and control out of the manual grinder so far. Awesome. I'll stick with the C2 for a while and see how I like it. I can always ask for a Niche Zero or the like for Christmas if I can't stand hand grinding anymore by then.
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The Postman posted:I just got that grinder and started using it with my Flair Neo and it's been great. I have an Encore with the burr upgrade and I'm getting way better results and control out of the manual grinder so far. Hmmm. That sure is making me consider upgrading from a skerton to the C2. I only make pourover, though, is it worth getting just for that?
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Qylvaran posted:Hi there! After about a week of watching James Hoffman videos at 1.25x speed, I'm upgrading from my Moka Pot and Hario Skerton to a Flair Neo and this grinder. Have I made a terrible mistake? What would you say is the cheapest automatic burr grinder that can produce good espresso? I love my Flair, I used to have a Neo and I upgraded to a Signature with a Pro 2 basket from a very cheap FB duder. Here's a comparison if it matters to your decision! Holy moly they have too many options. Confusing bastards. code:
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I don't think I need what the Pro 2 head has, and the Neo was on sale for 106 when I bought it a couple days ago. If I like it and want to level up, the bottomless and gauge seem like a reasonable upgrade later on. I may also want a new kitchen scale, since ours can only do the nearest gram or .1 oz. I'm so excited for Wednesday when it gets here! 
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silvergoose posted:Hmmm. That sure is making me consider upgrading from a skerton to the C2. I only make pourover, though, is it worth getting just for that? Honestly I'm not sure, I've only done grinds for the Flair with it, and I have no other hand grinder experience. I still use my Encore for all of my other brewing methods, even if i might get a slightly better grind out of the C2. I don't think I would want to hand grind 20g daily though.
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The Postman posted:Honestly I'm not sure, I've only done grinds for the Flair with it, and I have no other hand grinder experience. I still use my Encore for all of my other brewing methods, even if i might get a slightly better grind out of the C2. I don't think I would want to hand grind 20g daily though. Hand grinding for pour over is much different/easier than espresso. I use a c2 at work for my clever coffee dropper and it works great.
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