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Herstory Begins Now posted:thread title this if confirmed sunk Ammo detonation, crew abandonment and rolling in bad weather? It’s gone Unbelievable comedic timing https://mobile.twitter.com/RajaGili/status/1514390065408929793 https://mobile.twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1513900257716977672
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If Moskva doesnt sink I hope Russia tows it to one of their famous sinking drydocks.
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Apr 14, 2022 02:38
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Risky Bisquick posted:Ammo detonation, crew abandonment and rolling in bad weather? It’s gone I like the caption on Zelenskyy's instagram post https://www.instagram.com/p/CcSMhDGMuOg/ President Zelenskyy posted:The phrase, which became a symbol of the steadfastness of Ukrainian defenders, is now on postage stamps. Use and remember that the "Russian warship" always has only one direction.
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Apr 14, 2022 02:41
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High-level US party is going to Kyiv soon. https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1514417556446142467?t=bmjC1hUwxE7Dn2JMGXSDPg&s=19
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:The ship is completely fine this is just an experiment in turning cruisers into submarines. They're going to be taking some R&R time in Davy Jones' Locker Sandals Resort
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William Bear posted:High-level US party is going to Kyiv soon. Well they already sent Kamala to get Havana Syndromed in Hanoi
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Russian Missile-Cruiser conducts reef-building exercise in the Black Sea 13/4/22
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Russian Missile-Cruiser conducts reef-building exercise in the Black Sea 13/4/22 I think it's very nice of Russia. Previously, they've been doing a good job fertilizing Ukraine's soil; now they're making sure the fishes and crabs have homes. 
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Apr 14, 2022 02:47
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There's also the generous 'tanks for farmers' program that is lifting Ukranian farmers out of poverty at unprecedented rates!
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wet_goods posted:Need a new thread title "Russian Warship, go - oops, already taken care of"
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wet_goods posted:Need a new thread title 
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While we will probably not know the dead count ever. It's probably more than significant. With a crew of 480 let's expect a 25% casual to rate if not more. Especially with the potential of cabins being blocked off by the fact that it listed. The big thing to know would be the degree of the list minute by minute again we won't get that. It's just sad that there's so much we will never know about the after impact of this ship. I mean so much can happen in those few minutes especially with the crew probably trying to do damage control and potentially making it harder for the entire crew to evacuate. I'm sure there was mass loving chaos on this ship once this happened I mean fires everywhere the magazine is a big worry etc etc. I mean this was an absolutely horrifying thing to go through. I don't think it's the hood but definitely slice a piece of the pie off of the hood sinking and you'll get an understanding of what happened here.
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Apr 14, 2022 02:53
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Moskva reports minor fire all is well
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Apr 14, 2022 02:54
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You idiots don't even realise the Moskva is just conducting a feint towards the bottom of the Black Sea.
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Apr 14, 2022 03:00
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if Russia has any conventional arms left its going to use them. Between this and the attacks on Rostov and Belgorod they're probably enraged and humiliated.
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Apr 14, 2022 03:04
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This conflict definitely feels like learning hearts of iron iii. Where you think your haughty taughty fascist Germany with a strapping photo of Hitler as your HEad of state and you end up getting demolished by allied air power and don't realize yet you can set a command structure for your forces.
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FishBulbia posted:if Russia has any conventional arms left its going to use them. Between this and the attacks on Rostov and Belgorod they're probably enraged and humiliated. Yes yes, they've just been powering up for 2 months. The DBZ Theory of Warfare
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The Moskva in better days. Pretty well armed. Russia has 2 others of this Slava class, apparently. Good video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPFqkGdvlAc
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:This conflict definitely feels like learning hearts of iron iii. Where you think your haughty taughty fascist Germany with a strapping photo of Hitler as your HEad of state and you end up getting demolished by allied air power and don't realize yet you can set a command structure for your forces. putin bz microing and forgot to set navel patrols in baltic ukrainian cavalry takes st petersburg
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yes yes, they've just been powering up for 2 months. The DBZ Theory of Warfare they could still theoretically just throw a lot of ancient munitions at cities, like literal ww2 style bombing raids with massive losses.
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Can they do that without taking massive losses from stingers and starstreaks at this point?
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:While we will probably not know the dead count ever. It's probably more than significant. We only have Russian reports on the safe evacuation of the crew, to what vessel in a storm and from a burning, sinking and exploding ship they didn't say. If they only lost 25% of the crew that's a great tribute to the crew's training and the effectiveness of Russian search and rescue systems.
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Cicero posted:Can they do that without taking massive losses from stingers and starstreaks at this point? No, and unless they want to send their strategic bomber fleet into contested airspace the planes they have available only have a small bomb load so it’s going to take months to reduce a city to rubble by air power alone.
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yaffle posted:We only have Russian reports on the safe evacuation of the crew, to what vessel in a storm and from a burning, sinking and exploding ship they didn't say. If they only lost 25% of the crew that's a great tribute to the crew's training and the effectiveness of Russian search and rescue systems. I didn't want to make a claim that was like 50% of the people in here are dead as it seemed a little blood thirsty. I definitely agree with you know there's probably a significant amount of people dead.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I didn't want to make a claim that was like 50% of the people in here are dead as it seemed a little blood thirsty. I definitely agree with you know there's probably a significant amount of people dead. if the ammo actually blew up there will be few survivors.
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(CW: War) Ukraine v Russia: All hands rescued after fire. !!READ OP WARNING!!
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If the cruiser doesn’t sink, I hope some Ukrainian fishermen tow it back to port.
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Apr 14, 2022 03:18
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Mr. Apollo posted:If the cruiser doesn’t sink, I hope some Ukrainian fishermen tow it back to port. The current rumors are that it took a hit in the side, started leaning, and likely rolled over. Its likely at the bottom.
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Apr 14, 2022 03:21
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These Russian naval losses seem very, very expensive.
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GET ME DRACINFELS Five minute guide on this warship and it’s sinking. I expect at least an hour on it!
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I am curious about the role Moskva could have played in the broader conflict; I know it's the flagship of the black sea fleet, but did it provide military cover or logistical coordination for the rest of the fleet? Did it have an ongoing role in the ground conflict?
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Discendo Vox posted:I am curious about the role Moskva could have played in the broader conflict; I know it's the flagship of the black sea fleet, but did it provide military cover or logistical coordination for the rest of the fleet? Did it have an ongoing role in the ground conflict? It had a pretty good anti-aircraft system that provided a lot of cover for the southern theater.
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Discendo Vox posted:I am curious about the role Moskva could have played in the broader conflict; I know it's the flagship of the black sea fleet, but did it provide military cover or logistical coordination for the rest of the fleet? Did it have an ongoing role in the ground conflict? It’s almost certainly been used to fire missiles at ground targets and possibly used to provide AA cover.
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CommieGIR posted:The current rumors are that it took a hit in the side, started leaning, and likely rolled over. Its likely at the bottom. 
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Worth noting, this is not their first ship lost, they lost that LST that was doing resupply runs as well.
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i mean if russian news really is confirming that the crew abandoned ship i don't see how it could still be afloat my god, it disgusts me how the sickening tragedy of this war is combined with so many moments of utter farce. why start a war if this is the condition of your forces? it's like a repeat of the austro-hungarian empire eagerly launch a war it was in no position to win
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gay picnic defence posted:It’s almost certainly been used to fire missiles at ground targets and possibly used to provide AA cover. If wikipedia is to be believed it only has the capability to fire SAMs and big rear end anti ship missiles.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:If wikipedia is to be believed it only has the capability to fire SAMs and big rear end anti ship missiles. They have supposedly been using some anti-ship missiles on ground targets, but I don't know if it's the same kind.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:If wikipedia is to be believed it only has the capability to fire SAMs and big rear end anti ship missiles. They were using Anti-Ship missiles as artillery as well 
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Discendo Vox posted:I am curious about the role Moskva could have played in the broader conflict; I know it's the flagship of the black sea fleet, but did it provide military cover or logistical coordination for the rest of the fleet? Did it have an ongoing role in the ground conflict? Not a big deal as a land strike platform, but it had the only modern long range air defenses and the most capable/numerous short range air defense system in the Black Sea fleet. Its the sort of thing you'd expect to be providing cover against aircraft and missiles for the frigates and corvettes that make up the rest of the fleet - or amphibs attempting a landing. Losing it means Ukraine not only just demonstrated the means to sink the other (less capable) warships, but also made doing so easier by disposing of the entire long range layer of the fleet's air defenses. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Apr 14, 2022 |
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