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the easiest way i find to remember the difference is that something that's put into play already attacking skipped over the step where you 'tell' it to attack, not existing at the point where "when a/this creature attacks" is relevant
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Slightly better Fiend Hunter that scales into multiplayer and can sometimes do shenanigans with your own board. Not bad at all.
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LeafHouse posted:14 damage total flatluigi posted:the easiest way i find to remember the difference is that something that's put into play already attacking skipped over the step where you 'tell' it to attack, not existing at the point where "when a/this creature attacks" is relevant anyways a leak(?)   
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more commander cards from a leaked precon               regular set cards    regular set commander:    
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Apr 15, 2022 08:38
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Is that mythic WUBRG sorcery any good?The Wicked ZOGA posted:
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Weird it doesn't repeat the full card name at the end
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Captain Invictus posted:Is that mythic WUBRG sorcery any good? Commands forces you to choose two different modes according to the rules so I guess not?
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ilmucche posted:Weird it doesn't repeat the full card name at the end It's common for cards with a lot of text and long names when they refer to themselves.
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Apr 15, 2022 12:35
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Sickening posted:
A+ art reference. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunch_atop_a_Skyscraper
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Are you required to sing the song when Jolene ETBs?
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Apr 15, 2022 13:29
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I'm begging of you, please don't
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Captain Invictus posted:love the pun, can you choose the same option twice since it doesn't say pick two different choices? I was under the impression that the default for modal spells where you can choose more than one mode is that each choice has to be different unless the spell explicitly states that you can choose the same mode more than once.
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:I'm begging of you, please don't
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Strong Sauce posted:thanks. it always feels very counter-intuitive to me. like it shouldn't matter if it was declared an attacker and that that should only matter if the card says, "was declared an attacker" or something like that. less ambiguous. imo. How the gently caress does this still happen in 2022. HOW???? It's so much harder to make a picture look like poo poo like this than it is to actually take a picture.
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Now, THAT's a bear.
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God drat that thing is a powerhouse. Turn 3 swing for 2 then play a 4 drop angel that comes in with 2 +1/+1 counters on it.
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boblemoche posted:Now, THAT's a bear.
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LeafHouse posted:God drat that thing is a powerhouse. Turn 3 swing for 2 then play a 4 drop angel that comes in with 2 +1/+1 counters on it. Just one +1/+1 from Giada, right?
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Devor posted:Just one +1/+1 from Giada, right? I think that's right since it's entering the battlefield with the counter, not receiving it as a trigger after it enters the battlefield?
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boblemoche posted:Now, THAT's a bear. God drat this is going to make the Historic/Alchemy angel deck so much better
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How would Giada work with the new Elspeth's ult? Would each angel get 1 or 5 counters?
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Two +1/+1 counters in Modern and Historic, T1 Segovian Angel 
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GonSmithe posted:God drat this is going to make the Historic/Alchemy angel deck so much better Yes it is, and I'm loving stoked for it.
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boblemoche posted:Now, THAT's a bear. There it is, my mono-white Avacyn Angel/Sweeper tribal commander deck shoe in from this set. Am I having a stroke? I feel like the intent of this card is "...for each player, exile up to one other target creature they control until..." but the word salad templating reads like an Oblivion Plague Wind Ring for 3 CMC. At uncommon this is gonna cause so many loving judge calls.
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Apr 15, 2022 15:22
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TipTow posted:Yes it is, and I'm loving I already can't beat a Bishop of wings and now this!?
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Owlbear Camus posted:Am I having a stroke? I feel like the intent of this card is "...for each player, exile up to one target creature they control until..." but the word salad templating reads like an Oblivion Plague Wind Ring for 3 CMC. It has to exclude itself.
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OK but seriously I can't wait to pair her with Geist of St Traft, which will suck except that one time.
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orangelex44 posted:It has to exclude itself. LOL I caught that and edited to put "other" in there just as you were posting this. Someones gonna get a fat pack of this for their kitchen table matches and make their little brother stop playing the game with his 3 mana one sided board sweeper reading the card as its written.
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it's also templated to avoid the pre-errata hostage taker infinite loop
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Elvis_Maximus posted:I think that's right since it's entering the battlefield with the counter, not receiving it as a trigger after it enters the battlefield? Oh yeah, my mistake. That’s an unusual way to template this sort of ability.
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HootTheOwl posted:I already can't beat a Bishop of wings and now this!? Rampaging Ferocidon and Roiling Vortex are your friends.
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Is that really the cleanest they can get it, though? "Any number... controlled by other players" doesn't really make it clear at all that it's one per player which seems really, really important to communicate in rules text. "For each player, Up to 1 target other than ~" This makes Ice Cauldron look like as direct and easy to read as a stop sign.
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Owlbear Camus posted:LOL I caught that and edited to put "other" in there just as you were posting this. You could target every creature on the board, except for the clause "... controlled by different players..." which is modifying the "target creatures". If you incorrectly interpret the phrase "different player" to mean "opponent" then yeah you're hosed, but "different" is not a new word to magic.
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TipTow posted:Rampaging Ferocidon and Roiling Vortex are your friends. I hate the soul sister/angel archetype so much I made a deck that is just packed with hosers for it strictly to queue, meet it, and put it into the ground that's only incidentally good against other decks if at all. Mono white lifegain is just ridic IMO. It goes over the top so quickly just off curving out 3 creature cards that aren't immediately answered.
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Owlbear Camus posted:There it is, my mono-white Avacyn Angel/Sweeper tribal commander deck shoe in from this set. Magic designers are getting way too "clever" about templating cards. They want a card to do this cool thing, but there's no clean way to write this relatively simple effect under the current templating rules, so they end up with this Magic Programming Language thing that in no way can be parsed by someone new to the game. As bizarre as some Alpha wording was, we've come out the other end of it where it takes seven lines of text explain things.
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The thing that's got me really hosed up is on other recent cards they've shown they're perfectly willing to be imprecise with clear templating that "just works" for the sake of brevity/clarity: "Equip Planeswalker." "Exile graveyard" (vs. exile the contents of the graveyard-- you can't exile a zone.)
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LifeLynx posted:Magic designers are getting way too "clever" about templating cards. They want a card to do this cool thing, but there's no clean way to write this relatively simple effect under the current templating rules, so they end up with this Magic Programming Language thing that in no way can be parsed by someone new to the game. As bizarre as some Alpha wording was, we've come out the other end of it where it takes seven lines of text explain things. i think someone asked maro about this on his blog and his explanation made perfect sense, which was basically "look we've been doing this for 25 years, the simple and fun stuff was all done a decade ago"
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