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wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

swimsuit posted:

i miss the presence of famed trotskyist and forums poster apropos of nothing - they were a good voice in the thread.

:hai:

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croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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tbh i would sell most of you dipshits into slavery for a2n to come back

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


croup coughfield posted:

tbh i would sell most of you dipshits into slavery for a2n to come back

Who

Sunny Side Up
Jun 22, 2004

Mayoist Third Condimentist

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/strike_dr/status/1511920997833842689

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

I mean... a hundred years of trying to build class consciousness in the US has been an utter failure... what else can you do but read the nice books and talk about them with people?

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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the person the thread was just talking about

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


croup coughfield posted:

the person the thread was just talking about

Man my brain must not be very smart because I did not parse that as an acronym

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
I stopped posting for a while cause Jeffrey told
me some idiot moron goon made a report to the fbi about a obvious joke post I made in qcs where I was like “I’m gonna freakin blow your head off with a shotgun this is a real threat!” and so left for a while. came back and still post in fyad and imp zone, mostly don’t post here anymore cause the politics forums aren’t funny and lots of the posters politics are unhinged lol. if you would like to talk I’m happy to especially if you wanna join socialist alternative or dsa or are in either and wanna discuss stuff. mostly just busy due to pandemic and having to be a irl politics man and would rather post in the funny forums cause they’re funny. but I will always appreciate the haters and the fictional scenarios they have imagined about me :cheers:

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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stay strong explain-o

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

apropos to nothing posted:

I stopped posting for a while cause Jeffrey told
me some idiot moron goon made a report to the fbi about a obvious joke post I made in qcs where I was like “I’m gonna freakin blow your head off with a shotgun this is a real threat!” and so left for a while. came back and still post in fyad and imp zone, mostly don’t post here anymore cause the politics forums aren’t funny and lots of the posters politics are unhinged lol. if you would like to talk I’m happy to especially if you wanna join socialist alternative or dsa or are in either and wanna discuss stuff. mostly just busy due to pandemic and having to be a irl politics man and would rather post in the funny forums cause they’re funny. but I will always appreciate the haters and the fictional scenarios they have imagined about me :cheers:

You should post itt, you are way better than that tedious idiot who writes 10 paragraphs saying absolutely nothing.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

the child and I took our sunday stroll by the railroad tracks. we didn't just walk by the railroad tracks, but on the tracks, like little bipedal trains. today we were more train than any of you, ergo we were more communist

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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shut the gently caress up i wish you were dead

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

you both need to self critique

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
Posting is violence

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

AnimeIsTrash posted:

You should post itt, you are way better than that tedious idiot who writes 10 paragraphs saying absolutely nothing.

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

AnimeIsTrash posted:

You should post itt, you are way better than that tedious idiot who writes 10 paragraphs saying absolutely nothing.

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

The Voice of Labor posted:

the child and I took our sunday stroll by the railroad tracks. we didn't just walk by the railroad tracks, but on the tracks, like little bipedal trains. today we were more train than any of you, ergo we were more communist

Would delete this as railroad police have eyes everywhere

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

SorePotato posted:

Would delete this as railroad police have eyes everywhere

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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im not entirely sure, but i dont think they liked my posting in imp zone and fyad very m,uch, but i like to read about your experiences organizing and other stuff, apropos to nothing

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


apropos to nothing posted:

I stopped posting for a while cause Jeffrey told
me some idiot moron goon made a report to the fbi about a obvious joke post I made in qcs where I was like “I’m gonna freakin blow your head off with a shotgun this is a real threat!” and so left for a while. came back and still post in fyad and imp zone, mostly don’t post here anymore cause the politics forums aren’t funny and lots of the posters politics are unhinged lol. if you would like to talk I’m happy to especially if you wanna join socialist alternative or dsa or are in either and wanna discuss stuff. mostly just busy due to pandemic and having to be a irl politics man and would rather post in the funny forums cause they’re funny. but I will always appreciate the haters and the fictional scenarios they have imagined about me :cheers:

explain why youre a trot again

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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Southpaugh posted:

explain why youre a trot again

drat i wonder what he meant about unhinged dipshits

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

don't be sympathetic to trots

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

might as well start being nice to anarchists

pissinthewind
Nov 11, 2021

trotskyism is reformism is that right
and reformists are also revisionists or something?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

pissinthewind posted:

trotskyism is reformism is that right
and reformists are also revisionists or something?

Glenn Greenwald but for the USSR

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
Trotsky was Huey Emmerich but with kind of a debatelord edge. His most damaging qualities weren't really ideology but the way he was. A wrecker who just ends up loving and breaking everything he claims to hold dear repeatedly while whining. The ideology was never the real issue. I generally get the impression that he just could not control his desire to gently caress things up. Revisionism, reformism - whatever. That's never a big deal unless it comes along with the insatiable urge to gently caress everything up. The danger of a Trot is not their ideology but the probability that they will pull a Trotsky and just try to blow your poo poo up.

All flavors of the left do this kinda thing from time to time but Trotsky was so annoying about it that it has left an ideo-memetic memory imprint on all marx-lovers to abhor the Trot.

Cuttlefush has issued a correction as of 15:47 on Apr 15, 2022

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

if you've ever been a marxist outside of the internet you've probably ran into a trot. they will forever find a way to find the most annoying position to take, the most annoying thing to do and you'll never be free of them. they're always there, wasting everyone's time with their trot papers. they have zero qualms undermining any movement or party they come across for their own gain and to take control of whatever popular force can be mobilised. but when they have control, they proceed to do nothing with it and somehow alienate as much people as fast as possible. that's when the next phase of the trot lifecycle begins, and like a pupa turning into a butterfly, they split into two barely distinct but equally annoying trot sects

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
just absolutely unhinged lol

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
The Poster That Pisses Off The Various Weirdos Simply That He Exists MEGATHREAD

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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no no no, you must defend the thotsky, you cant just laugh at our meaningless historical disputes. this is outrageous

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
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This is one of those situations where I wish I understood the history of leftist factionalism enough to know what the gently caress anyone is talking about, while at the same time, I'm kind of glad that I don't.

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

trotsky is a fun name to give a horse :)

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
I'm not actually serious (except about the Huey Emmerich comparison). I thought that'd come through with the ideo-memetic memory thing. I do think the weirdo Trot hate has very little to do with ideology and a lot to do with the name inducing some latent rage on behalf of everyone whom had to deal with the actual Trotsky. I'd just rebrand at this point.

The history of leftist factionalism is pretty funny and also grim. Lots of trauma. Online leftist factionalism is the second farcical version of it and it is also funny. I do understand that it would get real tiring if people constantly got weird and serious about it though. But that does sound like something Trotsky would do if he posted here.

pissinthewind
Nov 11, 2021

just trot

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
The only Trots I interacted with IRL that weren't vomit-worthy opportunists that kept ruining everything they touch were the local IMT guys, and even that is mostly a factor of them focusing on working with unions and focusing their internationalism on other marxist orgs in the Balkans and mostly ignoring the attempts of the big British branch to turn their Balkans wings into a shitshow. There's a niche potential for Trots here to be ok-ish if their roots were young communists organizing at a time of victorious reaction when the other big options discredited themselves in one way or another. If it's on a campus, or if it has serious ties to western Trot groups, stay the gently caress away.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


I'm only just getting into Marxism but the factionalism over Trotsky / Stalin / whoever is confusing because it's usually complaining about their followers and not the theorists themselves.

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
Anyone ever met a Posadist IRL? Or a alien?

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R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

if you think this is petty factionalism or a historical dispute, again, you've never met a trotskyist because you learned marxism exclusively from forums and youtube videos. touch grass and you'll find a trot has pissed all over it.

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