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Lister posted:I don't like the basis of the plot either, but for what they're trying to do, it does make sense. By only changing the timeline, but not putting it in a parallel dimension, the show is essentially saying "Yes, Picard would have done all of these terrible things if the environment he grew up in was different." So when Q is saying "you did all of this and there's no atoning for it" you can't as easily write it off as not being the same person. Also, discovery introduced that mirror universe people are genetically different and that makes them bad guys. Lister posted:discovery Nope
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mallratcal posted:Never watched Trek, is Q malicious? I always assumed he was just loving around and having fun, like Mister Mxyzptlk. The writers of tng had no loving idea and neither does anyone else.
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Q is a trickster, like Puck or Loki or the Cheshire Cat tricksters are neither malicious nor benevolent, nor not malicious nor not benevolent. their motives are secret! all you can know is that they can not be trusted, and that even if you know that, they'll trick you anyway. if things turn out bad, if they turn out well, was it the trickster's intention, or was the trickster foiled? stupid question, I already told you you're not allowed to know that. you must pay more attention
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Watched the first ep of S3 of Derry Girls, I love that show it just cracks me up. Excellent guest star too.
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reignofevil posted:The writers of tng had no loving idea and neither does anyone else. If you're wondering how he eats and breathes And other science facts Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax..."
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priznat posted:Watched the first ep of S3 of Derry Girls, I love that show it just cracks me up. Great show. It has great comedy editing. I was in Derry last summer, here’s a big mural they have : 
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Milo and POTUS posted:lol at mike being upset at the villainous ice agents yeah mikes Politics are from the late 90's very just world thinking where everyone is mostly good but some bad apples are ruining everything. Ah those were the days.
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Regarde Aduck posted:yeah mikes Politics are from the late 90's note: this is also the politics of most of middle America
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Cubone posted:Q is a trickster, like Puck or Loki or the Cheshire Cat Perfect And then the end of this episode is Picard deciding he needs to figure Q out. Like a lot of things this season, this could be the fine basis for an episode. What's going on in the Q Continuum? Is Q just loving around because he didn't want to let Picard die and he needs to couch that in a game? The audience knows there's something up with the Continuum because Q couldn't snap Renee Picard into doing what he wanted so he had to resort to pretending to be a shrink and having Fat Data try to run her over with a car. The pieces are there for an OK episode. Just like the last two episodes had fine setups. - The team has to infiltrate a fancy 21st Century party without seeming like out-of-place weirdoes, but their plan hinges on Agnes who is being taken over by the Borg Queen. - The gang has to to into Picards subconscious to pull him out of a horrible childhood trauma. Nothing wrong with these ideas, but they got executed loving horrifically. So I'm sure the next episode is gonna be dumb as gently caress and will retroactively ruin the Continuum a little bit just like the show has with the El-Aurians.
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Regarde Aduck posted:yeah mikes Politics are from the late 90's man im just glad they have never revealed themselves as full midwestern idiots politically. just the fact that they call out the blatant sexism in a lot of poo poo puts them head and shoulders above so many other morons i speak to on a daily basis
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I'm just going off the clips, but the "evil" portrayal of the ICE agents looked ridiculously cartoony in a way that was unbecoming of a smart, Trek-worthy social commentary. ICE may be pretty drat evil, but what I want from Trek is an exploration of the aspects of human nature that allow such evil to happen. Not just mustache twirling. It's basically just Twitter takes put on screen, instead of actually writing a good fictional analogy. Look no further than DS9 with the cops who were enforcing the Sanctuary Districts for a good counter-example. Despite being '90s television, those guys still felt way more realistic and relevant to real world events.
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PostNouveau posted:Perfect I really don't like that we're gonna have this writing team of all people filling in the "official" franchise lore for the Q Continuum. They're gonna do some dumb poo poo like have them turn out to be humans who have just hyper-evolved to a state of perfect unified conscious outside that is outside of space and time, except that one of them missed their mother and the ache of that pain caused the Continuum to still exist in the universe. Then Picard will have a final moment with his mother and it will be so healing that the Q Continuum is healed and ceases to exist. That, or it'll be some rip-off of a video game from 10 years ago.
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Sir Lemming posted:I'm just going off the clips, but the "evil" portrayal of the ICE agents looked ridiculously cartoony in a way that was unbecoming of a smart, Trek-worthy social commentary. ICE may be pretty drat evil, but what I want from Trek is an exploration of the aspects of human nature that allow such evil to happen. Not just mustache twirling. It's basically just Twitter takes put on screen, instead of actually writing a good fictional analogy. Look no further than DS9 with the cops who were enforcing the Sanctuary Districts for a good counter-example. Despite being '90s television, those guys still felt way more realistic and relevant to real world events. This is probably fair and would be even moreso if we were talking about tng instead of picard which is like the delirious death nightmare of an old trek fan
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kalel posted:note: this is also the politics of most of middle America Mike is the personification of the Midwest.
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the newest season of it's always sunny is so bad and they all look like crypt keepers someone take this show and shoot it in the back of the head before it turns into the simpsons
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I want Always Sunny to keep going until it turns into an American version of Last of the Summer Wine
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PostNouveau posted:
That should be the name of one of the Star Trek threads. Star Trek: Nothing wrong with these ideas, but they got executed loving horrifically.
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LanceHunter posted:I really don't like that we're gonna have this writing team of all people filling in the "official" franchise lore for the Q Continuum. They're gonna do some dumb poo poo like have them turn out to be humans who have just hyper-evolved to a state of perfect unified conscious outside that is outside of space and time, except that one of them missed their mother and the ache of that pain caused the Continuum to still exist in the universe. Then Picard will have a final moment with his mother and it will be so healing that the Q Continuum is healed and ceases to exist. Oh yes. They are going to continue to ruin poo poo. I'm glad this season is set mostly in 2024 because nuTrek has been gunshy about getting into what happens after DS9. The politics of the galaxy in TNG and DS9 were cool and good, and I know this writing team will completely wreck that poo poo real bad if they try it. The poo poo they've already done about the Federation having android slaves and mostly trying to ignore the Romulan crisis was already such garbage. I stopped watching Discovery after Season 2, but apparently 3 and 4 are set in the far future of Trek or something like that? But also it's an alternate future? I'm sure they've already hosed up a lot and I just haven't seen it.
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priznat posted:Watched the first ep of S3 of Derry Girls, I love that show it just cracks me up. I had no idea they were doing a season 3 of this show, you just made my day
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Sunk Dunk posted:the newest season of it's always sunny is so bad and they all look like crypt keepers someone take this show and shoot it in the back of the head before it turns into the simpsons Not surprised you'd complain about things being too old
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I was with the latest season--Dennis trying desperately to hide his COVID symptoms nearly killed me--right up until the turd-eating scene, and it really didn't earn the big emotional moment with Charlie in the last episode.
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PostNouveau posted:.I stopped watching Discovery after Season 2, but apparently 3 and 4 are set in the far future of Trek or something like that? But also it's an alternate future? I'm sure they've already hosed up a lot and I just haven't seen it. Oh man discovery is the weirdest loving show and I'm one of the cursed fans that have continued watching it. Not only did they launch the disco crew to the 31st century, but all the dilithium exploded making warp drive nearly impossible and the federation has collapsed to a tiny fleet. So theyve rebuilt the federation the past two seasons, mostly offscreen and still feels like a show written by people whove never watched star trek. Even the better characters like Tilly and evil Georgiou have already left the show.
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Tiberius Christ posted:Oh man discovery is the weirdest loving show and I'm one of the cursed fans that have continued watching it. Not only did they launch the disco crew to the 31st century, but all the dilithium exploded making warp drive nearly impossible and the federation has collapsed to a tiny fleet. So theyve rebuilt the federation the past two seasons, mostly offscreen and still feels like a show written by people whove never watched star trek. Even the better characters like Tilly and evil Georgiou have already left the show. Aw, not Tilly! Is it an alternate universe or is Star Trek canon now that the Federation dies because it can't do warp?
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Tilly was written off the show? I thought she was one of the draws for people who actually liked Discovery.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Great show. It has great comedy editing. The cast is just brilliant and the physicality of Erin’s (Saoirse-Monica Jackson) facial expressions especially is just a riot. Her and the headmaster Sister (George) Michael are my favs. Also Grandpa Joe (Ser Barristan Selmy!). Reminds me a bit of Parks and Rec how it has snappy writing and also a really good heart to it.
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I finished the 1st season of Alone(2015) from the History Channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrowegT_sOc 10 guys are dropped about 2 hours from civilization, with minimal supplies, and we get to see who lasts longest As a goon I find the outdoors boring, and the first few episodes were soooo slow for me. Still, there was value to watching this. Not as educational as a documentary, since it's a reality show, but I learned some things for our inevitable apocalyptic globally warmed future (mainly: It's probably better to die asap  ) It was somewhat funny predicting who would break psychologically, a couple dudes surprised me for how long they lasted. Oh yeah, definitely the weirdest thing I learned - hardest thing about survival is psychological(not that the rest is easy). Being alone for long periods is apparently real bad for some people. Anyway, if you're at all into hiking or the wild or such stuff, you might enjoy it. Bit of a spoiler for a 7 year old reality show but lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuO2BhfjxSQ I award this show 3.5 Comfys out of 5, and a coupon for a class with the editor of the Kardashians so the contestants recording themselves in nature can maybe make it more exciting next time
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I binged a shitload of Alone back when COVID started. Good show imo, one of very very few reality shows I have gotten hooked on
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that sounds fun. i've been wanting to learn about the basics of how hosed you would be in a survival situation lately, something silly like this would probably be a good intro.
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I should get back into Alone. I burned out on it like halfway through the redemption season, but it was mostly from binging it too much. Edit: Turned it back on right where I left it and some dude just built a tree stand and then shot his camera with his bow and arrow from it. Brilliant. https://twitter.com/OKBJGM/status/1515007243476824065 PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Apr 15, 2022 |
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roomtone posted:that sounds fun. i've been wanting to learn about the basics of how hosed you would be in a survival situation lately, something silly like this would probably be a good intro. if you never did watch it, Les Stroud got all the rights to Survivorman and the entire series is now on Youtube
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WoodrowSkillson posted:if you never did watch it, Les Stroud got all the rights to Survivorman and the entire series is now on Youtube Second this as a fun watch.
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Dude boiling up 9 leeches and a snail in a desperate bid to get some protein: "What are the odds that this tastes good?" forgot how great this show is
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How is Sonic the Hedgehog 3 supposed to save cinema if Jim Carrey isnt going to be in it?
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PostNouveau posted:Aw, not Tilly! I didn't watch the season 4 in case it was addressed there, but it's not an alternate timeline, the prime universe will eventually be turbo hosed by a freak natural disaster. At least until ten years go by and the legacy of disco is so poor that the next round of people in charge of star trek decide to retcon that.
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X JAKK posted:How is Sonic the Hedgehog 3 supposed to save cinema if Jim Carrey isnt going to be in it? Ya gotta have faith
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