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Residency Evil posted:Genuinely curious if doping has become less prevalent in the peloton with the lack of positives in the past few years: The years between Contador and Sky were generally seen as relatively clean, based a lot on climbing performance. Sky has never specifically been implicated but there's enough smoke that it's either a series of incredibly unfortunate coincidences, or they were doing institutional doping. Like Armstrong they had political clout because they were backed by News Corp and the British media, both of whom stood to get the UCI tons of media money. A lot of people have been suspicious of the Slovene Sauce (Roglic/Pogacar) though I don't think there have been any serious findings yet. Also a lot of these people are Br*tish media guys who ignored when Chris Froome suddenly went from nearly getting fired for underperformance to setting record times up Mount Ventoux (it helps Pogacar that he was basically always seen as a mega-talent, though he's probably on some poo poo because cycling)
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ArmZ posted:I wish alonso had got his bike team he didn't know about the bribe money that would get his team all registered and official like, allegedly.
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also the dirtiest sport going isn't cycling, it's almost certainly a tie between track-and-field and tennis. I always like pointing out that Serena Williams once literally hid in a panic room in her house when blood testers showed up to do random tests. If there's a numerical Doping Suspicion Score, "hid in a panic room from blood testers" gives you something like +9000 points. (Much like Armstrong, Williams also has huge media influence to run interference for her)
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Feels Villeneuve posted:The years between Contador and Sky were generally seen as relatively clean, based a lot on climbing performance. Pogacar may be a phenom, but holy gently caress he climbs mountains like he's doped to the gills, I've never seen anything like it.
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Pogcar? Isn’t that whatever car Lando is driving?
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Feels Villeneuve posted:also the dirtiest sport going isn't cycling, it's almost certainly a tie between track-and-field and tennis. Hiding in a panic room to avoid a drug test ain't got nothing on hiding underneath the cage. Jon Jones will always be the GOAT. (Russian Olympic team is the actual greatest.)
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:Pogacar may be a phenom, but holy gently caress he climbs mountains like he's doped to the gills, I've never seen anything like it. Pogacar is who I was thinking of. It's insane. I follow rowing more closely than cycling/track and field, but it's funny how little you hear about doping in rowing in comparison. Because no one's making money rowing.
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Residency Evil posted:Pogacar is who I was thinking of. It's insane. I watched The Novice the other day it wasn't bad
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Feels Villeneuve posted:also the dirtiest sport going isn't cycling, it's almost certainly a tie between track-and-field and tennis. Only if you mean they tie for a distant second behind pro wrestling, yes
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Feels Villeneuve posted:also the dirtiest sport going isn't cycling, it's almost certainly a tie between track-and-field and tennis. I'm thinking of taking tennis lessons this year.
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:Hiding in a panic room to avoid a drug test ain't got nothing on hiding underneath the cage. Jon Jones will always be the GOAT. (Russian Olympic team is the actual greatest.) I was going to bring this one up. Jon Jones is the GOAT for doping, in the cage, and also hitting pregnant women with his car
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your friend wicka posted:Only if you mean they tie for a distant second behind pro wrestling, yes Weightlifting apparently was also dirty enough that it got kicked off the Olympics because the worldwide org gives zero shits about testing, too
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The question becomes what's the cleanest sport? (In terms of drugs) My money is on....diving? Sudden Loud Noise fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Apr 15, 2022 |
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Any sport with judges is almost certainly not clean. Its amazing to think that boxing was once one of the most popular Olympic sports. American boxers who got medals were like household names.
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:The question becomes what's the cleanest sport? (In terms of drugs) rifle competition i imagine
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Curling is a noble and honest sport played by only those with the highest levels of Lewis Hamilton approved integrity.
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Declan MacManus posted:rifle competition i imagine Iirc beta blockers were/are used.
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Hurling, but only because there is a culture of the RA kneecapping people they catch doing drugs.
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Declan MacManus posted:rifle competition i imagine https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/olympic-pistol-shooter-used-anti-trembling-drug-to-steady-his-hands North Korea knows what's up.
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A lot of niche sports that you'd assume are clean are actually super dirty because they get basically no attention from anti-doping regulators. I'd put my money on something like basketball, but it's also worth noting that "cleanest sport" is a lot like "most relatable F1 driver" - you gotta grade on a steep curve.
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:The question becomes what's the cleanest sport? (In terms of drugs) billiards darts cornhole
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Handball is just all cheats, second hand knowledge - all kinds of glue in the hands and all kinds of doping in the blood
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Darts is just fat men having fun E: I'd be willing to bet most darts pro players are kind of drunk
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Chess maybe. I think too much caffeine counts as being drugged.
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orange sky posted:Darts is just fat men having fun “I play better when I’m drunk” should be the free square on a bar bingo card.
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busalover posted:Chess maybe. I think too much caffeine counts as being drugged. This led me to this pretty great TCC style post: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/this-is-how-different-drugs-affect-my-play quote:LSD (150 micrograms):
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:This led me to this pretty great TCC style post: Hell yeah
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Disc Golf unless smoking hella weed is performance enhancing.
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Abisteen posted:Disc Golf unless smoking hella weed is performance enhancing. its on the list
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Abisteen posted:Disc Golf unless smoking hella weed is performance enhancing. there was a snowboarder in i think the vancouver games who lost his gold medal because of weed lmao
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boop the snoot posted:Curling is a noble and honest sport played by only those with the highest levels of Lewis Hamilton approved integrity. a russian lost a medal i think in mixed doubles in 2018 or 2014. ArmZ posted:there was a snowboarder in i think the vancouver games who lost his gold medal because of weed lmao ross rebagliati won gold in nagano, had his medal taken away because of a positive test (saying it was because he was at a party and someone was smoking near him), won an appeal and got his medal back and now owns a medical marijuana company lol
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net work error posted:I don't understand watch stuff. I just want to know what time it is! italian quid posted:I'm thinking of taking tennis lessons this year. Golf is the superior fancy rich person’s sport
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Tennis is fun but unlike golf you can't really play it 6 beers deep.
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Golf, tennis, F1. If it's a sport that's boring as hell to watch on TV, this thread has it.
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Gigi Galli posted:Tennis is fun but unlike golf you can't really play it 6 beers deep. This is why golf, like bowling, are truly sports of the people.
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acidx posted:Golf, tennis, F1. If it's a sport that's boring as hell to watch on TV, this thread has it. We literally JUST talked about curling
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Also cycling
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Uh curling is edge of your seat action.
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Curling is legitimately far more exciting to watch than golf. In fact, pro golf should be changed so the caddie brushes the green ahead of the ball on approach shots, chips, and putts over ten feet.
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Squash is much more fun than tennis.
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