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I'm not that plugged into the whole emo rock scene, but everyone who is seems to have a story about Jared Leto being a creeper to girls in their teens, going back to 2005/2006 era that I'm aware of. Even here in Australia it's a semi-open secret.
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well why not posted:I'm not that plugged into the whole emo rock scene, but everyone who is seems to have a story about Jared Leto being a creeper to girls in their teens, going back to 2005/2006 era that I'm aware of. Even here in Australia it's a semi-open secret. Well yes, Leto is in a band.
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Apr 8, 2022 07:56
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Worse than that; an emo band.
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Apr 8, 2022 07:57
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's something that's nearly impossible to disbelieve, nearly every man who's ever picked up a guitar did so to sleep with questionably legal women, that goes quadruple for pop punk and emo and whatever.
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Apr 8, 2022 08:07
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Detective No. 27 posted:There's a good chance that there have been people who went to the police with credible allegations and were ignored. I posted about the Jimmy Saville documentary yesterday. For decades, people were trying to report him to the police in various jurisdictions but none of them listened and in some cases the police went out of their way to protect him. The documentary noted that social media was basically the one place where victims could openly have their voices heard and how the mainstream media went out of their way to discredit even the people on social media. Sure, but Saville was his own special case and his cosying up to local police wherever he went and his attachments to powerful people (which was clearly all part of his deal) made him somewhat of a unique case in this regard. It's just as likely that no one at all has gone to the police about Leto. The police are useless, sure, but with figures like Leto there's a lot of hot air where everyone knows everything without actually knowing anything. In that regard, it's easy to see why he keeps getting work because at this point it feels like it's just been rendered into a meme. Without anything solid, like a first person account, it's going to stay that way.
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Apr 8, 2022 09:57
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https://twitter.com/ZeroSuitCamus/status/1511104896623431684 https://twitter.com/ChelseaJulian/status/1511013034809958402 https://twitter.com/CharlyLeVampire/status/1511220317968117762 https://twitter.com/afrenchduke/status/1511029888890769408 https://twitter.com/KaenKazui/status/1511055034087350274 well why not fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Apr 8, 2022 |
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Apr 8, 2022 10:18
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Also, a couple people said "it's just people on Twitter saying it" and I don't think they were trying to say it wasn't true, but one of the "people on Twitter" saying it is a loving New York Post article.
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Apr 8, 2022 11:59
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zerosuitcamus might be the best username i've ever seen
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moonmazed posted:zerosuitcamus might be the best username i've ever seen Way to overlook her other name.
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Apr 8, 2022 12:58
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The Jimmy Saville documentary is bad. His abuse isn’t really touched on in the first part. The connections to power and how they enabled him are pretty much glossed over. “Oh yeah, the local police supported him” and then nothing of it. “His connection with the royals is weird” and then nothing of it. It’s just 3 hours of looking at his hosed up face and hair. I wonder how much of it is British libel laws that stop them from speculating further or trying to draw lines. But otherwise, if you’re familiar with the broad strokes of the scandal, then you don’t need to watch this.
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Apr 8, 2022 13:28
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This is some bullshit and a hand wave to allow some awful poo poo to happen. As a musician I'm offended lol
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Apr 8, 2022 13:34
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Grendels Dad posted:Way to overlook her other name. It's a riff on Claire Denis 
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Boywhiz88 posted:The Jimmy Saville documentary is bad. His abuse isn’t really touched on in the first part. The connections to power and how they enabled him are pretty much glossed over. “Oh yeah, the local police supported him” and then nothing of it. “His connection with the royals is weird” and then nothing of it. Libel laws, and the not 0% chance that the royal family will you have you killed.
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Boywhiz88 posted:The Jimmy Saville documentary is bad. His abuse isn’t really touched on in the first part. The connections to power and how they enabled him are pretty much glossed over. “Oh yeah, the local police supported him” and then nothing of it. “His connection with the royals is weird” and then nothing of it. Yeah, it's not great but that's par for the course with a lot of these things. It's particularly infuriating given there's already been a great book on the issue. Even worse that Saville himself talked about his connections to law enforcement a lot so its a weird thing for the doc to gloss over.
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DrVenkman posted:Yeah, it's not great but that's par for the course with a lot of these things. It's particularly infuriating given there's already been a great book on the issue. Even worse that Saville himself talked about his connections to law enforcement a lot so its a weird thing for the doc to gloss over. Probably because getting too info law enforcement actively enabling pedophilia is also probably bad for your health.
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Skwirl posted:Also, a couple people said "it's just people on Twitter saying it" and I don't think they were trying to say it wasn't true, but one of the "people on Twitter" saying it is a loving New York Post article. The New York Post is probably less accurate than Twitter at this point
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Boywhiz88 posted:The Jimmy Saville documentary is bad. His abuse isn’t really touched on in the first part. The connections to power and how they enabled him are pretty much glossed over. “Oh yeah, the local police supported him” and then nothing of it. “His connection with the royals is weird” and then nothing of it. Well Thatcher's dead so they could definitely have talked about how being personal friends with the Iron Lady protected him if they wanted to.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Well Thatcher's dead so they could definitely have talked about how being personal friends with the Iron Lady protected him if they wanted to. It’s lightly touched upon but not much more than “they were pretty chummy! And she requested he be knighted a bunch! But nothing else here! Nope, nothing to talk about at all”
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Apr 8, 2022 16:42
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DrVenkman posted:There's no need to throw out conspiracies about Leto when it's not that hard to decipher: forum posts and whisper networks aren't allegations. Someone on Twitter saying 'this happened to a person I know' isn't really an allegation. Until someone is willing to say something, all you're going to see are the same variations of 'he likes to hit on 18 year olds' that imply a lot but say nothing. *give or take four years.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Well Thatcher's dead so they could definitely have talked about how being personal friends with the Iron Lady protected him if they wanted to. do they have heirs? theyre both so weird and hosed up i hope not) but that would mean some even weirder cousin is running the estate to get money from lawsuits
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Carthag Tuek posted:do they have heirs? theyre both so weird and hosed up i hope not) but that would mean some even weirder cousin is running the estate to get money from lawsuits Margaret and Denis Thatcher had twins, both of which are still alive. The son, Mark Thatcher, has even involved in some super shady business, up to and including help fund a coup attempt in Equatorial Guinea.
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Carthag Tuek posted:do they have heirs? theyre both so weird and hosed up i hope not) but that would mean some even weirder cousin is running the estate to get money from lawsuits Legally, you cannot slander the dead.
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Jared Leot has his own weird cult called Echelon.
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 Jared Leto at an "all ages show". Probably the only type of show 30STM plays
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Frank Langella has been fired from The Fall of the House of Usher after investigation into complaints of sexual harassment. https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadli...1235001883/amp/
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Skwirl posted:Not to sound like I'm endorsing the man, but I don't think Jim Jones was ever accused of using his cult for sexual gratification. This was like the first thing Jim Jones did when he founded the People's Temple, fyi.
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Alan Smithee posted:https://twitter.com/molcranenewman/status/1514325961889746953?s=20&t=FlyyUx6OLcca4RvKKFQlzA Gosh why don't more victims come out when harassed. I can't imagine.
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https://twitter.com/rothman_frank/status/1514422715972730886?s=21&t=eKfOfjNN5gAhwrFDa1gOdg excellent attorney work, what a great dude
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Jesus, he turned 20 in 1988, so I wonder if he was copying behavior he'd seen from adults as a child actor? Which absolutely doesn't excuse it, but makes you wonder what the hell was happening on the set of Diff'rent Strokes.
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That article more than buries the lede, which is that Coleman attempted to rape Molly Shannon, with help from their agent.
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There's a clip of her on Conan in 1996 telling the story to raucous laughter. She acts it out and everything. I remember stumbling upon it a few months ago and being like... what... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj4GPwlpmbc
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emo-ignorance posted:There's a clip of her on Conan in 1996 telling the story to raucous laughter. She acts it out and everything. I remember stumbling upon it a few months ago and being like... what... If you stick around to the end of the clip you'll hear Conan promo the upcoming SNL host Kevin Spacey It made me chuckle
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emo-ignorance posted:There's a clip of her on Conan in 1996 telling the story to raucous laughter. She acts it out and everything. I remember stumbling upon it a few months ago and being like... what...
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Preface: thanks for the context UK goons The Savile documentary felt good on the surface because it was mostly interviews with British people about how his actions effected victims and the horror of him duping everyone. From the US I was thinking "god drat, what if Mr. Rogers was revealed to be evil?". I watched clips of him being an evasive speedhead and joking about "what if I really WAS that evil, huh?". A few times you could credibly say his mask slipped (instant change of behavior or going dead-eyed psycho when he thought the camera was off) or he responded so outside the norm that interviewers could tell something was wrong (asking why Jimmy had never had one week of human love in his life and him sheepishly responding to the floor). Maybe those actually were slips and an interesting look at a psychopath making mistakes. But like QAnon, all the horrifying conclusions were super easy to reach and more about you feeling clever than uncovering anything. It makes no sense why master-of-lawsuits Savile would even allow the show to air on BBC. And then Goons and youtube comments pointed out that no, while adults couldn't prove anything they still knew he was a sick gently caress and forbade kids from being near him. Comedians made "Norm Macdonald vs Michael Jackson on SNL" level jokes on the BBC for years. And then the loving royals cover for him? I don't really know anything but it made more sense when someone said "Savile was a procurer/pimp for actually powerful pedophiles". Is this statement on-track (understanding we'll never have proof): "Jimmy Saville was intentionally pedophilic on TV to the extent that nothing was provable but if he went down all the attention could be directed at him" People saying he tricked everyone, that Thatcher was a fool to knight him, that those interviewers got close but never pierced the veil. You guys just pointed out that they could not have been unaware of his crimes, and that the real story here is why every police precinct and level of state media prevented people from stopping him. I'm interested in a book or video about the people behind this situation and of course understand if that can't exist with today's libel laws and police threats.
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Part of it is back then they didn't really think it was that bad.
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It also helps that every big name in the media and politics in the UK went to the same schools, the same universities and regularly meet up at the same parties. Its a small club and if you're not in it then you're fair game.
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Skwirl posted:Part of it is back then they didn't really think it was that bad. If you're talking about the Conan thing then yeah I get that much. But it's still really weird seeing people laugh at that story. She's there making it kind of silly but you can tell she's not okay. But people are cracking up because not only can they not read that body language and certain cues they just don't take it seriously because her assailant is a small man. The whole thing is pretty gross. It also highlights the overall problem that poo poo like this has been known about a lot of people in the entertainment industry either inside of it or publicly and it's only now that people are even starting to take any of it seriously. CPL593H fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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Gorn Myson posted:It also helps that every big name in the media and politics in the UK went to the same schools, the same universities and regularly meet up at the same parties. Its a small club and if you're not in it then you're fair game. It's become increasingly obvious in recent years that England is basically a paedophile ring with a flag.
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