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Grayshift
May 31, 2013
Any other hobosaints available for bitter commiserations?

Helped build the drat thing but I don't get to live there...

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Bragon
Apr 7, 2010

So the new alliance raid has 3 weekly rewards listed in the duty finder - two of them are the upgrade coin and the left-side piece, but what on earth was the third reward?

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold

Onean posted:

They're still figuring out what went wrong, but there's an update from YoshiP.

Hope they string it out long enough that all the RMTers alt FCs meet the 30 day requirement.

RME
Feb 20, 2012

Bragon posted:

So the new alliance raid has 3 weekly rewards listed in the duty finder - two of them are the upgrade coin and the left-side piece, but what on earth was the third reward?

It’s the trade in for materia isn’t it? I’m working off memory here but I’m pretty sure that’s one of the rewards

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

Bragon posted:

So the new alliance raid has 3 weekly rewards listed in the duty finder - two of them are the upgrade coin and the left-side piece, but what on earth was the third reward?

The cluster you can exchange for materia

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


2/12 on CC is a good record right?

e: one of them was a draw even better

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

You can tell you're going to be in for a bad time when the DRG on your team dives headfirst into the other team's backline twenty seconds before the crystal unlocks, getting KO'd right off the bat and feeding LB meter.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist

Runa posted:

You can tell you're going to be in for a bad time when the DRG on your team dives headfirst into the other team's backline twenty seconds before the crystal unlocks, getting KO'd right off the bat and feeding LB meter.

Standard operating procedure in my experience.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

Standard operating procedure in my experience.

Everything that was old is new again

Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Is your refrigerator running?

Thundarr posted:

2/12 on CC is a good record right?

e: one of them was a draw even better

Probably better than whatever mine is at this point, How did I get gold anyways

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Twibbit posted:

Probably better than whatever mine is at this point, How did I get gold anyways

I'm not even bothering with ranked.

And then I run a match where the drk, nin, and smn just completely steamroll the opponent team for the entire match while I quietly solo escorted the crystal all the way to the end, sometimes the monk would stop by to hang out. Just completely merciless stomping.

Ziddar
Jul 24, 2003

Time Travel: Not Even Once



okay maybe a few times


Thundarr posted:

I'm not even bothering with ranked.

And then I run a match where the drk, nin, and smn just completely steamroll the opponent team for the entire match while I quietly solo escorted the crystal all the way to the end, sometimes the monk would stop by to hang out. Just completely merciless stomping.

Sounds like this match I had last night. Sometimes you just get a comically one-sided stomp.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

After not touching FF14 pvp until about four days ago I've done enough casual CC to almost finish my first garo set, make pvp rank 17 or so, and get all the first tier of rewards in the season pass looking window. I think I win about a solid 40% of the time. I'm doing better as I get used to it and settle into white mage (probably overpowered) and dragoon.

That said it took me until I watched someone's tip video today to realize what was going on with that loving tornado I thought was a roaming hazard that somehow kept perfectly sneaking up on me. I get that map 90% of the time too, still haven't seen the volcano/bomb map. I expect my win rate to go up 20% if I make the UI change to show the duty timer for it and start shielding or looking for the feathers.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

I honestly appreciate how fast you get stomped when it is one sided. Gets you in and out quick when you have no hope.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Runa posted:

You can tell you're going to be in for a bad time when the DRG on your team dives headfirst into the other team's backline twenty seconds before the crystal unlocks, getting KO'd right off the bat and feeding LB meter.

just a note here, the bolded bit is wrong - LB is built at a 100% fixed rate based on your job. You can't "feed LB meter" because you can't increase your (or your enemy's) LB gain aside from three abilities which specifically do that thing. You can test it yourself but I've done it across multiple games, LB build rate is completely fixed, ie. MCH will always get its first LB at 3:30*. You can see the job build rates below:

quote:

PLD: 120s
WAR: 90s
DRK: 90s
GNB: 60s

WHM: 60s
SCH: 90s
AST:120s
SGE: 120s

MNK: 60s
DRG: 90s
NIN: 90s
SAM: 120s
RPR: 90s

BRD: 120s
MCH: 90s
DNC: 90s

BLM: 60s
SMN: 90s
RDM: 90s

Abilites that affect LB:
AST - Spire: 15s reduction
BRD - Final Fantasia: 15s reduction
RPR - Plentiful Harvest: 30s reduction (self only)

*Important note: You build no LB while dead or respawning. So while you can't feed LB exactly, you can definitely have LB advantage/disadvantage based on kills. Yet another reason why 9 times out of 10 the play is to get the hell out of dodge when you start losing a team fight unless you have a way to swing it, because you aren't building LB as a corpse and that 10+ second respawn maybe be the difference between having a fight-winning LB available for a push.

A Moose
Oct 22, 2009



I've done exactly 4 CC's so far as AST, and it feels pretty good, I get an instant-ish AoE heavy, the cards are powerful, I get a regen and a heal, and I just try to cast and not die and I've won 3 of my first 4. LB is pretty too, and reduces damage enemies do and increases damage we do.

I really like the dualcast mechanic that AST gets, its a blank spell that copies the last spell you cast, but buffed, and you get 2 charges of it

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Countblanc posted:

just a note here, the bolded bit is wrong - LB is built at a 100% fixed rate based on your job. You can't "feed LB meter" because you can't increase your (or your enemy's) LB gain aside from three abilities which specifically do that thing. You can test it yourself but I've done it across multiple games, LB build rate is completely fixed, ie. MCH will always get its first LB at 3:30*. You can see the job build rates below:

*Important note: You build no LB while dead or respawning. So while you can't feed LB exactly, you can definitely have LB advantage/disadvantage based on kills. Yet another reason why 9 times out of 10 the play is to get the hell out of dodge when you start losing a team fight unless you have a way to swing it, because you aren't building LB as a corpse and that 10+ second respawn maybe be the difference between having a fight-winning LB available for a push.

Oh!

That's good to know. But yes you absolutely want to gtfo of it looks like your team is about to lose a fight and you're not desperately needed on the point right that instant

MadFriarAvelyn
Sep 25, 2007

The new PvP mode rules.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Grayshift posted:

Any other hobosaints available for bitter commiserations?

Helped build the drat thing but I don't get to live there...

Hobobeata, can I join the commiserations or do I have to use the servants entrance?

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

MadFriarAvelyn posted:

The new PvP mode rules.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades

MadFriarAvelyn posted:

The new PvP mode rules.

Detheros
Apr 11, 2010

I want to die.



"Kill the Healer!!!" :v:



This mode rules

Get Innocuous!
Dec 6, 2011

come together
I swear healers are harder to kill in PvP than tanks are

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

I'm loving CC but it's so convoluted. I have no idea what I'm doing.

I shouldn't need to join an FC or google/youtube how to do battleground.

like look at this:


I just finished that and I had no idea what I was doing or what any of this meant.
There's colors and numbers everywhere but no explanation for any of it.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Get Innocuous! posted:

I swear healers are harder to kill in PvP than tanks are

WHM is currently especially tricky to kill as a consequence of a glitch that allows them to output way more healing than they ought to be able to, and it's a glitch that's so easy to perform that I think most WHMs are doing it completely on accident. It's genuinely astonishing to me that it wasn't caught in QA.

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.

Barreft posted:

I'm loving CC but it's so convoluted. I have no idea what I'm doing.

I shouldn't need to join an FC or google/youtube how to do battleground.

like look at this:


I just finished that and I had no idea what I was doing or what any of this meant.
There's colors and numbers everywhere but no explanation for any of it.

Just make the crystal movie and kill people when you can. It's so simple

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Barreft posted:

I'm loving CC but it's so convoluted. I have no idea what I'm doing.

I shouldn't need to join an FC or google/youtube how to do battleground.

like look at this:


I just finished that and I had no idea what I was doing or what any of this meant.
There's colors and numbers everywhere but no explanation for any of it.

Astra has pushed to the checkpoint and gotten 16% of the way on clearing that.
Umbra hasn't pushed that far yet, but since they're currently pushing they get the Overtime to try and get that far,
Currently the crystal has 2 Astra and 3 Umbra people on it.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
Tried out Sage and Scholar in PvP today. I’m still not very good yet and I often get mobbed and destroyed instantly if I’m not careful but I have managed to get double or even triple kills as Sage with a good Toxicon+Phlegma combo.

Scholar was interesting. I think I may like it better. I’ll have to keep trying them. Even if I end up losing 6 or 7 in a row I’m still enjoying it a lot more than Feast.

Frontlines can still eat rocks. I will never understand how to get good.

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

Bruceski posted:

Astra has pushed to the checkpoint and gotten 16% of the way on clearing that.
Umbra hasn't pushed that far yet, but since they're currently pushing they get the Overtime to try and get that far,
Currently the crystal has 2 Astra and 3 Umbra people on it.

Now tell me honestly you knew that from just playing the game.

Anyway, love the game. no complaints. don't attack me. you guys are ruthless
love the car

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
the CC HUD does suck because it doesn't say which team you're on during a match. that's such an obvious oversight.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Lol this game is a mecha anime. 10/10

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

Countblanc posted:

the CC HUD does suck because it doesn't say which team you're on during a match. that's such an obvious oversight.

It’s the color overlaying your healthbars.

Dryzen
Jul 23, 2011

Barreft posted:

I'm loving CC but it's so convoluted. I have no idea what I'm doing.

I shouldn't need to join an FC or google/youtube how to do battleground.

like look at this:


I just finished that and I had no idea what I was doing or what any of this meant.
There's colors and numbers everywhere but no explanation for any of it.

that's right, the square hole

Zutaten
May 8, 2007

What the shit.

Countblanc posted:

the CC HUD does suck because it doesn't say which team you're on during a match. that's such an obvious oversight.

Do you not watch everyone's stupid photos pop up at the beginning? that's at least 10% of the fun

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Dryzen posted:

that's right, the square hole

lmfao

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
Wow, I guess there are people out there that haven't played a game with a payload mode before. I just assumed everyone on the planet who plays games had booted up TF2 or Overwatch at some point.

Cleretic fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Apr 17, 2022

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold

Vermain posted:

WHM is currently especially tricky to kill as a consequence of a glitch that allows them to output way more healing than they ought to be able to, and it's a glitch that's so easy to perform that I think most WHMs are doing it completely on accident. It's genuinely astonishing to me that it wasn't caught in QA.

What's the glitch?

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011
The glitch is that if you cancel casting it, you get both charges of Cure II back. Even if you were down to 1.

Dryzen
Jul 23, 2011

Cleretic posted:

Wow, I guess there are people out there that haven't played a game with a payload mode before. I just assumed everyone on the planet who plays games had booted up TF2 or Overwatch at some point.

If they put /patchnote in game then I'm going to assume people read them

e i read this differently than I think you meant it sorry lol

Dryzen fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Apr 17, 2022

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Dryzen
Jul 23, 2011

There's even a dang npc!

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