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R. Guyovich posted:Trotsky was Huey Emmerich but with kind of a debatelord edge. 
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:First, let us be clear: Given your anti-Marxist stance, meaning you probably either adhere to some kind of center-left (e.g., social democracy) or ultra-left (e.g., anarchism) tendency, both of which are opportunist and utopian—that is, counterrevolutionary—you are a fauxgressive (pseudoleftist). By no means are you a genuine left-winger. 
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Apr 16, 2022 13:41
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Is that poster ok
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Apr 16, 2022 13:43
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lmao love you guys
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Apr 16, 2022 13:44
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Mr. Lobe posted:Is that poster ok p funny psychosis posting, but imho watch out. he might take people laughing at him as licence to poo poo his pants
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Apr 16, 2022 14:26
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:First, let us be clear: Given your anti-Marxist stance, meaning you probably either adhere to some kind of center-left (e.g., social democracy) or ultra-left (e.g., anarchism) tendency, both of which are opportunist and utopian—that is, counterrevolutionary—you are a fauxgressive (pseudoleftist). By no means are you a genuine left-winger. Only a trot would write something like this
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Apr 16, 2022 14:36
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I thought it was a syq
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Apr 16, 2022 15:33
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tough to tell with mk
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Apr 16, 2022 15:52
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My contribution to the discussion is that Joseph Scalice takes every opportunity to try and smear the Philippine left with attacks that barely have any daylight with the kind of poo poo that gets spewed by the worst of our reactionaries, so while I'm willing to grant that I probably shouldn't consider him to representative of all Trotskyists, I do wish Joseph Scalice would instead get Steve Scalise'd
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Apr 16, 2022 16:07
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I don't know anything about Trotsky and refuse to learn (boring) but a big wb to apropos
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Apr 17, 2022 05:47
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back in the day you could talk to a dude who makes cars and say "dude, you make cars all day, can you afford one?" there was leverage for labor in the situation. now though, now you talk to someone and you ask them what they make and they will tell you nothing and if you ask them is they can afford nothing, they will simply tell you "yes."
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Apr 17, 2022 07:44
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Zodium posted:hmm, i guess i'm a trot. same
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Apr 17, 2022 10:03
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or a tankie. really just depends on my mood.
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Apr 17, 2022 10:04
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the main unifying element across disparate trot organizations is parroting the state department line on every country not run by white people
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Apr 17, 2022 13:23
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Ferrinus posted:the main unifying element across disparate trot organizations is parroting the state department line on every country not run by white people youre a member of dsa who very famously cant keep its members from giving billions of dollars of missiles to an apartheid regime. im a member too and i get that dsa is split over it and prolly you and i agree at least on how that whole deal should be handled but lol have some self awareness
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Apr 17, 2022 14:59
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again just totally out of touch with reality lol
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Apr 17, 2022 15:01
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apropos to nothing posted:youre a member of dsa who very famously cant keep its members from giving billions of dollars of missiles to an apartheid regime. im a member too and i get that dsa is split over it and prolly you and i agree at least on how that whole deal should be handled but lol have some self awareness this seems like a non sequitor. the dsa has no particular membership requirements or mandatory line, which is part of why it's both inherited and attracts a lot of trots. it tends to be those trots who, say, pen editorials calling for us to send arms to ukraine, or salivate over the balkanization of china. you seem to be deliberately confusing a political tendency with a named organization despite having drawn a line between the two like one page prior
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Apr 17, 2022 15:07
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you haven't even contradicted me there because israel IS run by and for white people!!! you can safely both-sides israel and hamas without at all upsetting the CIA
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Apr 17, 2022 15:12
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oh here’s a useful conversation that is definitely going to result in funny jokes
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Apr 17, 2022 15:16
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Ferrinus posted:you seem to be deliberately confusing a political tendency with a named organization despite having drawn a line between the two like one page prior Ferrinus posted:the main unifying element across disparate trot organizations is parroting the state department line on every country not run by white people you literally said every trotskyist organizations despite whatever differences they have shares this in common lol
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Apr 17, 2022 15:53
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i did not say you are a loving moron, i merely stated that everyone who posts in this thread is a loving moron. learn to think.
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Apr 17, 2022 15:54
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Ferrinus posted:you haven't even contradicted me there because israel IS run by and for white people!!! you can safely both-sides israel and hamas without at all upsetting the CIA oh god not this loving guy again
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Apr 17, 2022 15:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Apr 17, 2022 15:57
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Ferrinus posted:this seems like a non sequitor. the dsa has no particular membership requirements or mandatory line thx for the concise explanation of why the dsa is useless
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Apr 17, 2022 15:59
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apropos to nothing posted:you literally said every trotskyist organizations despite whatever differences they have shares this in common lol yes, i did. and you responded to me by pointing to... an internal disagreement in a not-completely-trotskyist organization. doesn't really make sense
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Apr 17, 2022 16:06
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Ferrinus posted:yes, i did. and you responded to me by pointing to... an internal disagreement in a not-completely-trotskyist organization. doesn't really make sense No True Trotskyist.
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Apr 17, 2022 16:07
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My spouse is turning the dog into a liberal by leaving NPR on when we leave the house. Please advise.
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Apr 17, 2022 16:32
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Cpt_Obvious posted:My spouse is turning the dog into a liberal by leaving NPR on when we leave the house. Please advise. *eyes narrow* this is dangerously close to suggesting they're not a good dog...
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Apr 17, 2022 16:43
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Ferrinus posted:yes, i did. and you responded to me by pointing to... an internal disagreement in a not-completely-trotskyist organization. doesn't really make sense you talk like ben shapiro stfu
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Apr 17, 2022 16:47
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Cpt_Obvious posted:My spouse is turning the dog into a liberal by leaving NPR on when we leave the house. Please advise. Switch it out with David Harvey's lectures on Das Kapital
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Apr 17, 2022 16:48
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All of you are liberals and wreckers if you don't follow my tendency, anarch@-tankie-Maoist-Trotskism
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Apr 17, 2022 16:54
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gradenko_2000 posted:Switch it out with David Harvey's lectures on Das Kapital This crazy son of a bitch just jumps right from like 1/3rd of the way through vol II to the end of Vol III. Very confusing, but maybe smart bc most of volume 2 turned out to be a dud. Just start III this week and already seems like its exploring much more interesting ideas. Maybe after this I'll read 18th Brumaire since it seems neat.
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Apr 17, 2022 17:00
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In Training posted:This crazy son of a bitch just jumps right from like 1/3rd of the way through vol II to the end of Vol III. Very confusing, but maybe smart bc most of volume 2 turned out to be a dud. Just start III this week and already seems like its exploring much more interesting ideas. Maybe after this I'll read 18th Brumaire since it seems neat. 18th brumaire requires you to at least pretend to know way too much about mid 19c french politics but if you can get past that it's fantastic
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Apr 17, 2022 17:31
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In Training posted:This crazy son of a bitch just jumps right from like 1/3rd of the way through vol II to the end of Vol III. Very confusing, but maybe smart bc most of volume 2 turned out to be a dud. Just start III this week and already seems like its exploring much more interesting ideas. Maybe after this I'll read 18th Brumaire since it seems neat. hell, it's a fun time to write completely pointless theoretical contemplations, but when the point is to change peoples way of seeing the world, some editing out of the less important bits is what you want. i guess engels was just a bit too much of nerd to be an editor, but i suppose the middle of the book is always where the boring bits about minutiae are put
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Apr 17, 2022 18:03
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lollontee posted:hell, it's a fun time to write completely pointless theoretical contemplations, but when the point is to change peoples way of seeing the world, some editing out of the less important bits is what you want. i guess engels was just a bit too much of nerd to be an editor, but i suppose the middle of the book is always where the boring bits about minutiae are put my eyes so completely glazed for the huge chunk of pt II that's just like. 3/16ths of capital put forth but industrialist A comes from the 1/8th of Surplus Value produced by industrialists B. And after 80 pages of this Engels drops a footnote that's like "almost all of this math was wrong but I left it in bc I trust my friend and hopefully somebody found something useful here" lol. Lead with that please!
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Apr 17, 2022 19:40
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im a fartxist
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Apr 17, 2022 19:45
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In Training posted:my eyes so completely glazed for the huge chunk of pt II that's just like. 3/16ths of capital put forth but industrialist A comes from the 1/8th of Surplus Value produced by industrialists B. And after 80 pages of this Engels drops a footnote that's like "almost all of this math was wrong but I left it in bc I trust my friend and hopefully somebody found something useful here" lol. Lead with that please!  lol
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Apr 17, 2022 19:51
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the shoddy ocr job on the budget edition of abcs of communism swapped a bunch of 1s and 7s and 9s. I'm weary of the figures and math going into a piece of propaganda in the first place and that absolutely soured me
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Apr 17, 2022 20:01
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18th brumaire was a farce but the first 17 were fine imo
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Apr 17, 2022 20:06
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Ferrinus posted:this seems like a non sequitor. the dsa has no particular membership requirements or mandatory line, which is part of why it's both inherited and attracts a lot of trots. it tends to be those trots who, say, pen editorials calling for us to send arms to ukraine, or salivate over the balkanization of china. you seem to be deliberately confusing a political tendency with a named organization despite having drawn a line between the two like one page prior
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