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Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

Just watched One Hour Photo last night (good movie, not socialist) and this whole conversation reminds me of the scene towards the end where Robin Williams holds a couple hostage at knifepoint and forces them to pretend to engage in sexual acts while he takes pictures and melts down about how they're supposed to look like they're having fun instead of terrified and miserable and anyway Hollywood execs seem to have the same level of understanding when it comes to intimacy.

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

apparently squid game had two scenes involving sex both of which id completely forgotten about until just now

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
You should all go watch dressed to kill. I did recently and my eyes popped out of my head

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

femme fatale (2002) is also an incredibly horny hollywood movie, in which the sex is mostly instrumental but isn't depicted as evil

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Just remembered that House of Gucci was a mid budget, modestly popular movie that had some consentual sex scenes in it.

Mainly remember that because awhile back someone did an edit of the Nicole Kidman AMC video to make it so she's watching the scene where Adam Driver is going down on Lady Gaga.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


A Buttery Pastry posted:

Imagine any movie. Now imagine that same movie, but spread throughout the film you have extras who are just nude. The movie treats them as if they're fully clothed, but the person is completely naked to the viewer. This is the only way to make it truly gratuitous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oeiBL_JdR4

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
This is clearly us seeing these women through the eyes of Phoenix, so the movie is not truly treating them as fully clothed - it is trying to tell us something about his character. This is not gratuitous.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

hey antonymous looks like you dont have pms so ill just ask out loud are you familiar with any articles that go into deep detail about how the chinese film market has changed over the last decade or two academic articles would be preferable but ill also accept fake news

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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inside would definitely have benefitted from a solo sex scene but instead that energy was sublimated into another song about performance anxiety so it's all the same really

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

look we were all disappointed in solo but the solution to insufficiently sexy music videos isnt to expect disney to add sex scenes to everything so that they can be repurposed for fair use

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

bo burnham post hog

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

SPACE-A-HOLIC
Taco Defender
After thinking about it, the most recent movie that I can remember including a positive consensual sex scene was The Shape of Water in 2018.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

I watched the newest Purge last night, and god do those movies stink. The political commentary is shallow and toothless and the action scenes are straight to dvd quality. All you have to do to make the premise work is make it schlocky and over the top, like the Running Man or Robocop. A society where the Purge exists should be nutty, not somehow more mundane than real life America except for that one day a year. Not Socialist. No Positive Sex.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Grimes economically socialist, socially fascist is the future of the 21st century breakdown

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Mantis42 posted:

I watched the newest Purge last night, and god do those movies stink. The political commentary is shallow and toothless and the action scenes are straight to dvd quality. All you have to do to make the premise work is make it schlocky and over the top, like the Running Man or Robocop. A society where the Purge exists should be nutty, not somehow more mundane than real life America except for that one day a year. Not Socialist. No Positive Sex.

watch death race 2000, which has both

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Seen it, but thanks.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

TeenageArchipelago posted:

You're not wrong, but otoh do you really want Hollywood writers to be leading the charge on wholesome horny representation

yeah if it's cronenberg

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

The best use of nudity was in Walk Hard (not socialist)

Mantis42 has issued a correction as of 18:58 on Apr 17, 2022

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

in two weeks blackstar (mos def and talib kweli) will rele a new album. the last one was a quarter century ago

im saint germain
Jan 30, 2021

i've come from the future to tell you all we have to stop party rock before it returns
i hope the new kids in the hall season is good

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

i say swears online posted:

in two weeks blackstar (mos def and talib kweli) will rele a new album. the last one was a quarter century ago

they shouldn’t do this

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Mantis42 posted:

I watched the newest Purge last night, and god do those movies stink. The political commentary is shallow and toothless and the action scenes are straight to dvd quality. All you have to do to make the premise work is make it schlocky and over the top, like the Running Man or Robocop. A society where the Purge exists should be nutty, not somehow more mundane than real life America except for that one day a year. Not Socialist. No Positive Sex.

The ones with Frank grillo are fun

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

im saint germain posted:

i hope the new kids in the hall season is good

they shouldn’t do this

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

indigi posted:

they shouldn’t do this

yeah lol it's not going to be good

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

im saint germain posted:

i hope the new kids in the hall season is good

will have consensual sex

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

im saint germain posted:

i hope the new kids in the hall season is good

not holding my breath

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Arivia posted:

will have consensual sex

with the bird lady

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

im saint germain posted:

i hope the new kids in the hall season is good

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020

i say swears online posted:

in two weeks blackstar (mos def and talib kweli) will rele a new album. the last one was a quarter century ago

talib kweli needs to stop doxxing black woman and getting kicked out of every local event (not socialist)

mos def and roc Marciano on a madlib beat is probably gonna be great though (slightly socialist)

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment
what was the last time someone hung dong on a mainstream movie? watchman?

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Bear Retrieval Unit posted:

what was the last time someone hung dong on a mainstream movie? watchman?

jackass 4

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Some Guy TT posted:

hey antonymous looks like you dont have pms so ill just ask out loud are you familiar with any articles that go into deep detail about how the chinese film market has changed over the last decade or two academic articles would be preferable but ill also accept fake news

I can look for articles but basically the two trends I hear my friends complain about back in China are

1. there is too much censorship and that leads to fear and that leads to an extremely stifled creative process. People tell me there's a lot less narrative work happening because it's just not worth it so only commercial stuff is getting made, except

2. the chinese film criticism circle, i.e. festivals and their movie goers, where censorship is less of a problem, are really into pretentious experimental stuff so that's the viable indie route. Kinda like how in America 'issue' movies do well (movies about abortion, growing up asian in a white community, female empowerment, whatever) and that leads film makers to go that direction if they don't want to/can't go commercial

also because 'co productions' have dried up in the last few years, that is movies made with chinese money but filmed in america/abroad, a lot of chinese talent has left the USA. Also with covid closing down production for several months while china remained open, the choice was sorta forced for many people who already had their work slowing down.

also also it's always tough to be a new director but I believe it's a total generational change now because of how powerful celebrity status is in China. you really need stars and you need what in English we might call 'Executive Producer' but who's role is really to stamp their name on the film. Imagine you make a low budget adventure movie and it says "Stephen Spielberg Presents" as the first credit, even tho he just had a few notes on the script and the edit and didn't even give money.

edit: idk if that's the kind of trends you wanna know about. I don't know what box office #s are and what people exactly are making

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 22:50 on Apr 17, 2022

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I find it's very rare that a sex scene advances the story. a lot of times it's just 'here's a thing that happened' and then the next scene resumes the storytelling.

the really sexy sex scenes are the ones where the story telling doesn't get put on pause. the characters are learning about each other and making choices and all that normal drama stuff.

Lost Highway has a great sex scene for example, though it's the opposite of sexy

edit: lynch and cronenberg both use sex as story telling actually & that's why videodrome's sex scene rules as well

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

The sex scene from Shoot Em Up was eventful AND positive, in that Clive Owen killed like six people while having enjoyable consensual sex with Monica Bellucci

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

loquacius posted:

The sex scene from Shoot Em Up was eventful AND positive, in that Clive Owen killed like six people while having enjoyable consensual sex with Monica Bellucci

sounds awfully straight though...

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

shoot em up was a reddit rear end movie

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
I still don't know what the sex scene at the motel at the end of the penultimate episode of twin peaks was about

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

im saint germain posted:

i hope the new kids in the hall season is good

I hope they don't wear blackface this time.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

possibly socialist Romanian film Bad Luck Banging opened with a pornographic sex scene and was completely necessary.

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

enemy at the gates has a sex scene and also is socialist (not actually socialist)

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