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I recall a couple weeks ago someone did a map with comfirmed Russian casualties, and there was noone from Moscow. City alone has 12million residents, and there's about 20 million if you include metropolitan area. That's out of about 145 million total in Russian Federation. Updated map could be pretty useful propaganda tool "see, of 10.000 soldiers we have confirmed as dead or captured none are from Moscow, why are you letting Muscovites send your kids to death?"
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Tuna-Fish posted:The big problem is that those ships are really, really bad. Totally loving counterproductive to keep floating level bad. Are they those Littoral Combat Ships that no one actually wants? The more I think about it the less I'm sure Ukraine benefits much from a surface fleet. Submarines might be of more use for them as their suspected presence would greatly hinder the easy movement of hostile ships. Combined with shore-based ASMs covering the coastal areas they could effectively blockade Sevastopol without being in any huge danger themselves (aside from other subs) as they could always withdraw to waters protected from surface vessels by missiles.
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gay picnic defence posted:I don't buy any of the arguments about demographic trends leading to this conflict. Do you have an argument on why that is not the case? They are not the sole or strongest reason for this conflict, but they do play a role. If you are interested I would suggest you look up just about anything recent by Peter Zeihan, as he makes a fairly compelling argument on why demographics do indeed play an important and strong role in this conflict.
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Apr 19, 2022 10:35
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If Ukraine does this to Russian Hackers and spammers, I will join their armed forces myself and assist in putting an anti tank missile through each and every window.
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Apr 19, 2022 10:35
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NTRabbit posted:The Littoral Combat Vessels that are being retired at half their service life because they're poo poo and falling apart, the US having tried to reinvent the wheel by designing 'light inshore combat vessels' on their own, rather than just asking any of the countries with fjords who mastered the concept some time ago. They are falling apart due to not ticking certain boxes during the construction phase. Namely sacrificial anodes.
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Apr 19, 2022 10:36
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gay picnic defence posted:Are they those Littoral Combat Ships that no one actually wants? I wouldn't be surprised if almost the entire us submarine fleet is nuclear subs at this point though.
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Apr 19, 2022 10:36
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Russia has in 2 months done more to legitimize and make NATO seem necessary than anything else in 50 years Killer robot posted:I mean, given Russia's performance, not really to legitimize massive spending on huge militaries and next-generation weapon systems (vs just improving readiness from where some of Europe is now). I'm now imagining Stoltenberg calling a press conference, announcing: "In light of Russia's battlefield performance we are lowering the GDP pledge to 0.2 % in a spirit of fair play." kronix posted:I'm honestly pretty surprised that the sabre-rattling has stopped as much as it has. 6 weeks ago Russia was casually threatening everyone and the entire western world called their bluff. You could even make the argument that one of the reasons the west moved so quickly to supply arms to Ukraine was a result of the nuclear threats being thrown around. Tigey posted:TL/DR - Their nukes are the only real card they have left (after their army and economy are spent) - but they can't actually ever play it because WW3. So all they can do is threaten - both implicitly and overtly - their use, in the hope their decadent, cowardly and effeminate adversaries get nervous and make concessions. So get used to them mentioning nukes more and more. Yeah, the first part's surprised me. Particularly Peskov (and just now Lavrov) out and out ruling the use of nukes over Ukraine. As for the saber rattling increasing, if their current offensive doesn't go to plan I agree. And we're probably likely to see a good deal of it in response to Finland and Sweden joining NATO anyway. It's not like they have the force availability to deploy thousands of troops on garrison duty at the border as a response, so they'll probably do the old nuclear chest beating in a display of deterrence.
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Apr 19, 2022 10:45
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UCS Hellmaker posted:I wouldn't be surprised if almost the entire us submarine fleet is nuclear subs at this point though. Entire USN, RN and French navy subs are 100% nuclear.
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Apr 19, 2022 10:47
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Dick Ripple posted:Do you have an argument on why that is not the case? Because it's easy to fix. Pay people to gently caress and have kids. Introduce a contraception tax. Because the even thought the wrong numbers are going in the wrong direction they're a century at least away from reaching the point where raising an army like the current invasion is no longer possible.. UCS Hellmaker posted:I wouldn't be surprised if almost the entire us submarine fleet is nuclear subs at this point though. They could have the diesel-electric ones Australia decided not to get France to build.
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NTRabbit posted:Yeah they'd be much better off getting the US and France to tack a couple more FREMM frigates onto the current order queue, and then grabbing a bunch of capable new small corvette designs from Germany or the nordic countries. Much more modern and capable, more suited to an inland sea, lower crew requirements. Fincantieri is currently working on two FREMM hulls (replacements for F598 & F599), adding a couple to the queue now wouldn't be much of a hurdle esp if they go monkey model with electronics and vls cells(once the D657 is completed, the docks are likely going to downsize as per usual since the italian navy is not a big spender). SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Apr 19, 2022 |
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Russia invokes its nuclear deterrent a lot more openly than the west does, but behind the sabre rattling rhetoric their argument is just classic MAD deterrence. There's also a big difference between a threat to deploy nuclear forces in an area and a threat to use nuclear forces in a conflict. Russia does understand that it is counterproductive to its deterrence posture to make or allow the perception of threats to use nukes to be made that aren't credible.
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Apr 19, 2022 10:51
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Hamelekim posted:I'm seeing a lot of geopolitical sorts arguing that Ukraine will fall eventually, within the year, then move on other countries bordering it, including NATO countries. How long will it take to capture Warsaw? 2 days Will Duda be killed? Yes Total Polish civillian casualties: 500 dead Total military casualties Poland: 3000 dead Total military casualties Russia: 15 dead Will the Polish army regulars hold the lines? No Will the Winged Hussars fight to the end? No Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes Will Duda launch attacks on Belorussia? Yes Will Duda launch attacks on Chechnya? No -If yes; will Kadryov retaliate harshly? Lol Will Duda sacrifice Lviv (gas/nuke it)? No Will the Belorussians make a grab for eastern Poland? Yes Will Putin slap Luka silly for trying for land? Yes Will Duda burn the sunflower fields? Yes How long will Russia be occupying Poland? Forever, blin. Fourth Rome! Will the war catalyze increased terrorism in Chechnya? No In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Blyat
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gay picnic defence posted:Are they those Littoral Combat Ships that no one actually wants? Yes, I forgot the program names but those ones. Besides just rotting out, there's some  MIC background that I wasn't aware of:quote:The beginnings of the littoral combat ship program provide a clear-cut example of prime contractor influence. The U.S. Navy cited concerns about the future of the defense industrial base and its skilled workers when answering congressional queries on the program’s funding. Within the littoral combat ship program itself, Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics were able to successfully argue first for additional Flight 0 prototypes, then for both designs to be put into production, and finally for the program to not only continue to be funded but to receive even more money. The structure of the prototype competition required such a large level of expenditure that the contractors could easily claim that their businesses would be significantly undermined if they did not get a production contract out of the process. Lockheed Martin, in particular, took full advantage of its lobbying teams to push Congress in the right direction.
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https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1516343771251855363 Full evacuation called for Luhansk oblast.
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Rust Martialis posted:How long will it take to capture Warsaw? 2 days
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Rust Martialis posted:How long will it take to capture Warsaw? 2 days Off topic but I'm suddenly seeing this meme everywhere I go. What's the origin?
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Senjuro posted:Off topic but I'm suddenly seeing this meme everywhere I go. What's the origin? A master architect and then-Goons in Platoons moderator, Grover, made that prediction back in 2003 or 2004 about Iraq
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I remember Poles brainwormed by Kremlin propaganda stating a couple months ago that Belarussian Army alone is enough to take Warsaw, and with Russian help it will take 2 days. Looks a bit like someone finding Zhirynovsky's scribbles and reposting them
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Senjuro posted:Off topic but I'm suddenly seeing this meme everywhere I go. What's the origin? Nosre posted:A master architect and then-Goons in Platoons moderator, Grover, made that prediction back in 2003 or 2004 about Iraq How long will it take to capture Baghdad? 2 days Will Saddam be killed? Yes Total Iraqi civillian casualties: 500 dead Total military casualties Iraq: 3000 dead Total military casualties U.S.: 15 dead Will the Iraqi army regulars hold the lines? No Will the Republican Guard fight to the end? No Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes Will Saddam launch attacks on the Kurds? Yes Will Saddam launch attacks on Israel? No -If yes; will Isreal retaliate harshly? Yes Will Saddam sacrifice Baghdad (gas/nuke it)? No Will the Kurds make a grab for independence? Yes Will Iran do anything silly like try for land? Yes Will Saddam burn the oil fields? Yes How long will the US be occupying Iraq? ~15 years Will the Iraq war catalyze increased terrorism in America?No In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good
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Dick Ripple posted:Do you have an argument on why that is not the case? that dude does not appear to be even remotely an expert on russia or ukraine, why should anyone listen to what he says?
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Humphreys posted:They are falling apart due to not ticking certain boxes during the construction phase. Namely sacrificial anodes. Not even their only problem. The transmission system is also failing badly, for entirely separate reasons. The engine failures might be because of the galvanic corrosion, because seawater keeps ending up in the engine spaces and loving them up. So yeah, they cost-cut so much that all the ships need to spend all their time being repaired. Very financially wise.
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NTRabbit posted:The Littoral Combat Vessels that are being retired at half their service life because they're poo poo and falling apart, the US having tried to reinvent the wheel by designing 'light inshore combat vessels' on their own, rather than just asking any of the countries with fjords who mastered the concept some time ago. Ah, good ol' USS Aggressive Disintegration at Molecular Level
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Cyberwarfare being met by a Hellfire equivalent coming through the window of a room full of Russian nerds is probably the best possible deterrent.
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steinrokkan posted:Ah, good ol' USS Aggressive Disintegration at Molecular Level Metallic aluminium doesn't have molecules. (It does aggressively disintegrate though.)
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Payndz posted:Cyberwarfare being met by a Hellfire equivalent coming through the window of a room full of Russian nerds is probably the best possible deterrent. Don't copy that floppy
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U wouldn't download a HIND
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This guy's even less credible that the youtube "expert" we've been talking about these last few posts.
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Tuna-Fish posted:Not even their only problem. The transmission system is also failing badly, for entirely separate reasons. The engine failures might be because of the galvanic corrosion, because seawater keeps ending up in the engine spaces and loving them up. They've been wildly successful in their primary objective
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Every IT department in North America and Europe probably gonna erect a monument to these brave pilots.
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It’s far more likely to be something like one of those SIGINT planes constantly on station along the border triangulating a bunch of radio signals coming from those buildings and someone decided to tip off the Hind pilots.
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Hannibal Rex posted:This guy's even less credible that the youtube "expert" we've been talking about these last few posts. I don't care about factuality, I care about the idea of Tired: sql injection attack Wired: missile injection attack Expired: russian hackers
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gay picnic defence posted:It’s far more likely to be something like one of those SIGINT planes constantly on station along the border triangulating a bunch of radio signals coming from those buildings and someone decided to tip off the Hind pilots. Could we just roll with suspension of disbelief for a minute? I'd like to think that those bitcoin scams have just gotten a bit more risky.
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Aertuun posted:I would encourage anyone who's interested in accurately assessing the military situation in Ukraine to read and listen to any (and all) of Michael Kofman's material. As far as I'm aware he's gotten pretty much every prediction on Ukraine right so far, down to correctly predicting the date of the Russian invasion all the way back in December 2021. im curious how did he predict the date of invasion
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A terrifying blow to Heroes 3 modding.
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that's actually the physical location that SA was being DDOS'd from and brown moses and jeffery's NATO contacts got the attacks shut down
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Herstory Begins Now posted:that's actually the physical location that SA was being DDOS'd from and brown moses and jeffery's NATO contacts got the attacks shut down Someone photoshop a SA handgrenade sticker onto that smoking gun NATO laptop found by Russian troops.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:that dude does not appear to be even remotely an expert on russia or ukraine, why should anyone listen to what he says? All his past assesments on when and how this current conflict would happen have been true? He is by no means an expert on the region, but geopolitics is kind of what he does for a living. Also, like anyone we should consider what he has to say analytically.
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Dick Ripple posted:All his past assesments on when and how this current conflict would happen have been true? He predicted that the us would be less willing to get involved in foreign conflicts and wouldn't honor security commitments because we'd be drunk on a glut of shale oil. Every layer of that prediction is comically wrong.
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