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What is this mysterious punishment that Aviendha is under in the beginning of The Gathering Storm? She’s had two pov chapters now doing the really menial tasks punishment type poo poo and wondering why she’s being punished. What is the big mystery here?
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Apr 20, 2022 03:04
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Hexel posted:What is this mysterious punishment that Aviendha is under in the beginning of The Gathering Storm? She’s had two pov chapters now doing the really menial tasks punishment type poo poo and wondering why she’s being punished. What is the big mystery here? I mean, it doesn't last too much longer, but basically she's done training and they're waiting for her to realize it and stand up for herself.
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Apr 20, 2022 03:07
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Fauxshiz posted:I mean, it doesn't last too much longer, but basically she's done training and they're waiting for her to realize it and stand up for herself. aint that some poo poo loving aiel man 
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Apr 20, 2022 03:09
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I am shocked at how much I am struggling with Memory of Light. I really, really, don't like Sanderson's writing. It's very clumsy and ugly. It's like reading the novelization of a very passionate wargame session. Jordan was never a wordsmith but he had some poetic moments. The characters are carrying this but barely. I'm full sunk cost with this pile. I'm hoping the climax is redeeming but 75% in and not feeling hopeful.
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Apr 20, 2022 03:15
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seaborgium posted:The main point of view organization has been weeding them out. But even up until the very end the Aiel were still sending dudes into the Blight if they found out they could channel. The Black Tower got as big as it did because now there was someone around to test them and teach them if they wanted so there will be a lot more male channelers in the near future. The Windfinders and the Aiel finding every single woman who could channel showed just how dumb the Aes Sedai were about that. A bit weird following an "I hate Sanderson" post, but some of my favorite work of his was a small series of novellas that extrapolated his medieval magic system from Mistborn to the Victorian age. It was a fun thought experiment.
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Apr 20, 2022 03:22
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silvergoose posted:I have won again, Lews Theropod. Fixed this.
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Apr 20, 2022 04:12
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Killer robot posted:Fixed this. 
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Apr 20, 2022 06:15
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Killer robot posted:Fixed this. I would also have accepted 'Lews Therapsid Theriodon'.
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Apr 20, 2022 09:47
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Famethrowa posted:I am shocked at how much I am struggling with Memory of Light. I really, really, don't like Sanderson's writing. It's very clumsy and ugly. It's like reading the novelization of a very passionate wargame session. Jordan was never a wordsmith but he had some poetic moments. It gets better (or at least, you get used to it) but yeah the shift is jarring. Sanderson's realism is a valid style but it sure feels bad coming from Jordan's tolkeinism. Climax is absolutely worth it, though
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Apr 20, 2022 12:54
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Finally finished the series after 5ish months of listening to the audiobooks. Was a good listen. Feels weird now to not be snatching up some audiobook time with WOT when I have a few minutes free. Also what's up with that pipe? One of the Aes Sedai light it for him?
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Apr 20, 2022 13:57
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Nitrousoxide posted:Finally finished the series after 5ish months of listening to the audiobooks. Was a good listen. Feels weird now to not be snatching up some audiobook time with WOT when I have a few minutes free. The pattern thought he deserved a little something for all he did. Or he can warp the pattern around himself now with amazingly fine control.
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Apr 20, 2022 14:30
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Apr 20, 2022 14:31
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One last mindfuck by RJBrandon Sanderson posted:Not even Brandon knows what’s going with Rand’s pipe-lighting at the end of A Memory of Light. “I put it in as RJ instructed, and I know nothing more about it than fandom does, I’m afraid.” https://www.tor.com/2013/01/23/brandon-sandersons-wheel-of-time-answers-from-torchat/
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Apr 20, 2022 15:08
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On another note: Jordan Con is this weekend and we may get some official news. In the past Judkins has tossed a bone to various cons and things. https://twitter.com/CTnapier/status/1516615105592668166
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Apr 20, 2022 15:11
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I think the best pipe theory is that at that point Rand has conscious control of the Pattern and will be able to live whatever life he wants.
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Apr 20, 2022 15:15
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:A bit weird following an "I hate Sanderson" post, but some of my favorite work of his was a small series of novellas that extrapolated his medieval magic system from Mistborn to the Victorian age. It was a fun thought experiment. He's bringing it to the 80's in the next few books, and space not long after that so it should be interesting.
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Apr 20, 2022 15:30
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I think Jordan just wanted a cool guy ending and didn’t think too much about it.
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Apr 20, 2022 15:31
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Invalid Validation posted:I think Jordan just wanted a cool guy ending and didn’t think too much about it. You write what you like. Cool guys? Check. Badass sword fights? Check. Bosoms and fine asses? Check. Everybody is hot and horny? Again check.
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Apr 20, 2022 16:19
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How are u posted:You write what you like. Its a Win Win Win Win For everyone but especially RJ
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Apr 20, 2022 16:31
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Famethrowa posted:I am shocked at how much I am struggling with Memory of Light. I really, really, don't like Sanderson's writing. It's very clumsy and ugly. It's like reading the novelization of a very passionate wargame session. Jordan was never a wordsmith but he had some poetic moments. My understanding is that AMOL is written more by RJ than the other books in the last 3.
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Apr 20, 2022 17:56
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Jaxyon posted:My understanding is that AMOL is written more by RJ than the other books in the last 3. My understanding is that the core components were written or sketched out with the pieces between being filled out by Sanderson. It's the connective tissue that I'm struggling with, while the main story beats are pretty solid. It's like driving through the Midwest of the US, long stretches of dreary writing punctuated by a fun roadside attraction like a big loving Corn Palace or something. It's 100% Sanderson's writing. e. I could believe that Sanderson just writes differently, so maybe his writing works in his context, but it is not working for me in this novel. Famethrowa fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Apr 20, 2022 |
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Apr 20, 2022 18:36
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Yea Sanderson has trouble with the middle of his books. Although I didn’t realize it as much with WoT since the later books Jordan kinda had the same problem. I do notice it a lot more in his own books I’ve read.
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Apr 20, 2022 18:39
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There's apparently plenty of bits in those 3 books that people go "This must have been sanderson" and then he just points to the notes or outline or actual draft written by Jordan.
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Apr 20, 2022 20:27
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CainFortea posted:There's apparently plenty of bits in those 3 books that people go "This must have been sanderson" and then he just points to the notes or outline or actual draft written by Jordan. Yeah part of the problem with the lat couple books is that Jordan would write like 15 or 30 drafts before he was satisfied. Lots of stuff in the last few books, it's basically Jordan rough drafts that Jordan didn't have time to polish and Sanderson didn't want to interfere with or disturb.
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Apr 20, 2022 20:33
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Sanderson didn't want to interfere with or disturb. That, or he's unfamiliar with the concept of multiple drafts.
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Apr 20, 2022 20:42
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Eh, I don't really see it as a problem. It's like when people try to do accents in movies or tv shows. It's usually bad. And even if every single actors nails it 100%, the best you can get is that no one notices. We all knew the books weren't going to have the same style going into it. Trying to copy it would just make it that much more jarring when it missed.
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Apr 20, 2022 20:42
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah part of the problem with the lat couple books is that Jordan would write like 15 or 30 drafts before he was satisfied. Lots of stuff in the last few books, it's basically Jordan rough drafts that Jordan didn't have time to polish and Sanderson didn't want to interfere with or disturb. I'd believe this because one of the few bright spots is the original characters Sanderson wrote for the Black Tower resistance. They're pretty ok.
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Apr 20, 2022 20:52
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the JJ posted:That, or he's unfamiliar with the concept of multiple drafts. Sanderson literally posts what draft he is on with a tracker on his personal site.
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Apr 20, 2022 21:15
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Invalid Validation posted:Yea Sanderson has trouble with the middle of his books. Although I didn’t realize it as much with WoT since the later books Jordan kinda had the same problem. I do notice it a lot more in his own books I’ve read. I can buy that. I hit the middle of The Way of Kings like it was a brick wall.
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Apr 20, 2022 21:39
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Jordan didn't have a problem in the middle of his books, more like his problem was his middle books.
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Apr 20, 2022 21:42
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the JJ posted:That, or he's unfamiliar with the concept of multiple drafts. Sanderson is so exceedingly methodical that I doubt this is the case. I think he just wanted to preserve as much of RJ's writing as he could, and that meant largely leaving his draft material untouched.
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Apr 20, 2022 23:50
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Jaxyon posted:Sanderson literally posts what draft he is on with a tracker on his personal site. Cool.
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Apr 21, 2022 00:29
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I suppose what Herid Fel discovered if anything, who killed him, and why he was killed is another mystery lost to time? “Herid Fel was dead now, murdered, torn apart by Shadowspawn. He’d discovered something in these books, something he’d intended to tell Rand. Something about the Last Battle and the seals on the Dark One’s prison. Fel had been killed just before he could pass on the information” Min is musing about him in TGS.
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Apr 21, 2022 01:14
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I'm pretty sure the gholam got him. IIRC the thing he learned was that Rand would have to destroy the seals instead of repairing them.
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Apr 21, 2022 01:16
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Hexel posted:I suppose what Herid Fel discovered if anything, who killed him, and why he was killed is another mystery lost to time? You know what Herid Fel knew. Destroy the seals to fully seal the DO. You've already read the series. you're way too into the series to not know that lol we do need engagement here though, i agree
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Apr 21, 2022 01:33
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CainFortea posted:Jordan didn't have a problem in the middle of his books, more like his problem was his middle books. Joking aside, I'm definitely feeling it. Most WoT books seem to have a pattern of "strong forboding opening, some dramatic developments, a bunch of repetitive meandering around interspersed with cool scenes, buildup, huge finish." In most of the series I enjoy them the whole way through without losing interest, but the middle is weakest and where you most get thinking about how thick this book is.
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Apr 21, 2022 02:02
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We got a couple grainy images of a seanchan soldier. There's no way to know if this is a common grunt or a deathwatch guard.  
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Apr 21, 2022 12:57
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Barreft posted:You know what Herid Fel knew. Destroy the seals to fully seal the DO. You've already read the series. you're way too into the series to not know that lol I thought maybe Fel was the one who gave Rand the idea to let a couple women use Callandor to make a circle with him but in the last chapter I read last night, Cadsuane mentions she gave Callandor to a couple sisters she trusts for further study. She also has custody of the male choedan kal access key and the black a'dam. I couldn't remember if there was more to it than: hey use women this time dummy.
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Apr 21, 2022 13:26
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Fel's thing was about the seals, Min was the one that discovered the bit with Callandor.
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Hexel posted:We got a couple grainy images of a seanchan soldier. There's no way to know if this is a common grunt or a deathwatch guard. I mean, probably shouldn't be Deathwatch since I think those are reserved for the actual Empress and family, so they only show up once Tuon is in the picture.
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