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We did have a candidate once ask if there were other positions we'd recommend them for if we didn't think they were a good fit for this. I already liked her. I got the sense my manager and co-Interviewer adored her. We pretty much knew she was going to be made an offer by that point. We want her for ourselves. But, you know, we can't quite say it. So, we had to brush it off with a vague "see what's available that interests you on the website." It was a bit awkward. And if the interview wasn't good, it would be equally awkward with the exact same response. So, yeah, it's a useless, awkward question. "What about my resume gives you concerns," is even worse. If there were deal breakers, I wouldn't bring you in. If I do have concerns, I'll try to squeeze in questions to determine if I should be concerned.
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Trickortreat posted:The main points I try to convey during my phone screen are This is a good start, someone who does a bit of research is always welcome. I also like curiosity in a candidate, I don't think I'm alone when I say if you can get me talking about the company/job I'll probably like you more. People like talking. I'd also say to always try to nail any technical/skill-based points as hard as you can. I might like person A more, but if Person B looks like someone who can slide with every skill we need the business is more likely to want B. I sometimes recognize when people try to pick up a skill just FOR the interview but that's still better than nothing. Someone saying "Yeah I've only done a little with Python but here's what I can do" can elevate them above others.
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Omne posted:Whenever I'm asked that question, I just say no and move on. I usually say "You're here, aren't you?" because I find it very difficult to actually lie to people about things like this.
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Does anyone in this thread have experience with recruitment in education? I'm a primary school teacher in the UK, London, and my current school is a dumpster fire that I'm convinced will be put into special measures the second anyone from OFSTED looks too closely at it. Our head teacher took the job just before Covid hit, has no prior experience with being a head and things are crumbling around me. I seriously want out. Problem is I'm pretty dreadful at writing CVs, cover letters and personal statements. My mind dissolves as I try to present myself as someone you'd want to hire, everything I write reeks of being half-assed and I know that's hurting my chances. If I can get into an interview I'm confident I can give a good showing of myself but getting there is my challenge right now. I've tried to apply the tips from the big scary OP to my CV already but I'd really appreciate another pair of eyes on my poo poo.
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Redact and  Caveat: Americans are going to know absolutely nothing about how the school system works in the UK as ours is hosed up ten times worse than you could even bring yourself to believe, so hopefully a UK goon can shed light on that for you. We can still help tighten up your resume if it needs that though!
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Hey everyone, first time listener first time poster. Want to thank the OP for such a great first post on resume building as I'm in the middle of a career change. I'm hoping to get some eyes on my resume, as well as some guidance on what the hell I want to do. Here's my background in a few points:
The job description and dummy resume are linked here. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. I'm nervous about moving into a new industry and just want to hedge my bets.
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Mr. Merdle posted:The job description and dummy resume are linked here. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. I'm nervous about moving into a new industry and just want to hedge my bets. If at all possible, I would try and lead each bullet point with a different action verb. I would try to avoid using the same words twice. Go here to get some ideas for words you can use instead.
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I applied for 3 roles at the same company last week and got a boilerplate rejection email through today. Problem is, it doesn't say which role they've rejected me for 😂 I guess I'll just cross my fingers it's not all of them.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Redact and Right, actually showing the CV / Personal statement may help. Shout out to pizzapocket party for using the pdf host in their post which let me know how to show my own off. CV https://pdfhost.io/v/4o7oWfWFd_Cheese_CV_2022_Copydocx Personal statement (it's bad) https://pdfhost.io/v/Y5eE8ozfv_Personal_Statement
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Jumpsuit posted:I applied for 3 roles at the same company last week and got a boilerplate rejection email through today. Problem is, it doesn't say which role they've rejected me for 😂 I guess I'll just cross my fingers it's not all of them. One time, I got a rejection email that didn't even state which position or company it was for.
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One time I got a rejection letter for the job I just started
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Looking for a new job for the first time in a long time and would appreciate any feedback on my current resume. The template is one I grabbed off of Office 365. https://pdfhost.io/v/bHIQz5MBk_ResumeSomeGuy I'm still looking in the same industry for now (security systems integration/design), but am also considering broadening my search to more general engineering or project management.
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Yet again scheduled for an interview for a job very different from what I'm used to doing. Escaping food service's gravity well has been rough. Anyways the job is for a practice manager position at a dentist's office with 25 employees. They gave a lot of info during the screen and even sent the job description and benefits package info. 80-85k with a 10k a year bonus, and a 10k sign on bonus. . My duties would be ops, budget, strategy, scheduling, staff meetings, and employee engagement. Also I have to work closely with the leading dentist, sharing some authority I guess? It's for a 50 practice company called Willamette dental, they also sell dental insurance to workplaces. Reviews seem good. Not sales-driven according to the screener, my performance would be based on customer satisfaction. It's privately/family owned. It's a couple blocks from my house... I can walk. It's just ... different from what I've been doing, running a retirement community cafeteria/food delivery service staffed mostly by teenagers. I have my MBA now with an emphasis in Medical Management but I don't know much about oral hygiene. Like a moron, I admitted I had little experience budgeting in the phone screen but they still want to talk. Zoom interview tomorrow at 4pm. I guess I'd like to know if anyone knows anything about managing a practice like this and how to shore up my lack of budgeting experience. I got an A in accounting, but my wife handles the household budget... At work I've reduced employee hours within a process to save money?
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much like most people you've already assumed that budgeting is about saving money when really it's about allocating money and spending it effectively
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:much like most people you've already assumed that budgeting is about saving money when really it's about allocating money and spending it effectively  Cool cool. Sincere thanks. Edit: I said the above in the interview and it went very well! Thanks! 
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Trickortreat posted:One time, I got a rejection email that didn't even state which position or company it was for.
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Arquinsiel posted:Presumably the email address provided a clue, or did it come via Indeed's mailer or similar? Also, today marks the third time hiring managers have scheduled something on my Google Calendar without giving me an email notification. I'm starting to wonder if there's something weird in my settings, but I tested it with the wife and the notification worked just fine. Definitely jarring to see a random interview I didn't know I had today, but I'll take it!
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brugroffil posted:Looking for a new job for the first time in a long time and would appreciate any feedback on my current resume. The template is one I grabbed off of Office 365. Bumping to see if anyone has any input even if just on format/template
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brugroffil posted:Bumping to see if anyone has any input even if just on format/template
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The usual rule of thumb is that if you highlight more than three things on a page the reader's brain will interpret it the same as no highlighting, it fails to stand out. Changing the style of highlight doesn't help.
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it's a resume, it's supposed to be the highlights of your career. don't try to further highlight or draw attention to anything.
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Jesus, just got a message from the most incredibly rude recruiter on earth. I had questions that I wanted answered before we had a call, and eventually he got pissy and basically said I was wasting his time. No, motherfucker, you are wasting my time. You want me to be a candidate so you can make money. You need me. I don't necessarily need you. Without a candidate, you make no money. If I didn't have a recruiter, I could still eventually find a job, it would just be more of a hassle. Also, turns out he's the loving president of the company, which has to mean that this is just some tiny shop that's just him if he's deigning to respond to these emails. I am seriously considering contacting the company directly and saying, "Hey, this is how your recruiter is acting, you might want to reconsider" and sending them the transcript.
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I promise you they will not care
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brugroffil posted:Bumping to see if anyone has any input even if just on format/template You just described "Engineering Manager" as bullet points, you didn't really go into any detail on what you accomplished. You should be highlighting deliverables, successes, cost savings, etc. I am not sure why someone would look at this resume and think you should have a better job than the one you already have.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:it's a resume, it's supposed to be the highlights of your career. don't try to further highlight or draw attention to anything.
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I signed an offer letter! There is no way I would have been able to make a career pivot without all of your help. A great big thanks to everyone who took the time to read over my resume and answer all my nagging questions!
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Trickortreat posted:I signed an offer letter! There is no way I would have been able to make a career pivot without all of your help. A great big thanks to everyone who took the time to read over my resume and answer all my nagging questions! Congrats! CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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I am interviewing again. This will lead to me bitching about things hopefully to help you all. I fuckin' hate functional resumes. I want data about the candidate from a resume. A functional resume is about as useful as a press release. The little blurb about jobs over time is the only real data in the thing and its been stripped bare so people can write bad marketing copy about themselves. Death to functional resumes.
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Today an excop who was accused of dragging an obviously pregnant woman out of a car leading to a settlement from his agency applied for a job with me. I hate interviewing. Also this is why recruiters will Google you. Clean that poo poo up. This is like the 4th applicant I’ve had in three years that’s been formally accused of disgusting and illegal behavior. Only one who wasn’t arrested for said behavior.
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CarForumPoster posted:Also this is why recruiters will Google you. Clean that poo poo up. How does one clean up something like that sort of accusation? Unless you're talking "Right To Be Forgotten" laws or something.
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Magnetic North posted:How does one clean up something like that sort of accusation? Unless you're talking "Right To Be Forgotten" laws or something. For that, you probably won't. If you're a normal person who is relatively easy to find (e.g. weird name or non-burner email) you can take control of the top 5 or 6 google search results to have them basically be testaments to how great you are. 12+ months before you want a job, register the domain firstname-lastname.com or firstnamelastnamestate.com. Make a simple wix portfolio for yourself. Put links to this wherever you can put some public links and follow an SEO tutorial for the content. Make a LinkedIn. Make it beautiful. Make it public. Put a link to your portfolio. Add recruiters. Make other social media accounts fully private. Make a github, instagram, twitter, etc. that features the same content as your profile domain. All of these should contain your real name and a link to your portfolio site or linkedin. Follow some people or whatever so google can discover these social properties. For Facebook, I set absolutely everything to private only then unhid the details that made me look like a good engineering candidate: people enjoying my company, projects I've built, etc. It will take 6+ months for google to change its rankings but with just a tiny amount of link building you can have things you control be the first impression of you on the web. CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Apr 20, 2022 |
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CarForumPoster posted:For that, you probably won't. I'm currently in an arms race with a person who shares my name. We're both clearly trying to be the Leon Sumbitches you find when you search, I don't know where it ends. It's good advice!
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I got outright told that my job history of leaving roles after a short time (2~ years) was a red flag during an interview, the reasoning I gave was I felt comfortable in those positions and there was no room for growth or upward progression. I work in tech and I thought switching jobs after 2 years was pretty common? Should I answer this any differently if it comes up again?
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Honey Im Homme posted:I got outright told that my job history of leaving roles after a short time (2~ years) was a red flag during an interview, the reasoning I gave was I felt comfortable in those positions and there was no room for growth or upward progression. I work in tech and I thought switching jobs after 2 years was pretty common? Should I answer this any differently if it comes up again? How many jobs have you left after 2 years and how many do you have that are longer than that?
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So since I arrived in Canada I worked one job for 2 years, the next for 10 mo and then my current for just over 2.5 years. Prior to that I had a job for 2.5 yrs (was promoted after 1.5 yr) only left this job due to moving. Prior to that 2.5 yrs and my first job 4.5 yrs. Looking at it like this there is a bit of a pattern I guess. Would it be fair to say I'm looking to leave my current role due to consistent 2% raises and capped 2k bonuses despite positive reviews? Honey Im Homme fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 23, 2022 |
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Honey Im Homme posted:So since I arrived in Canada I worked one job for 2 years, the next for 10 mo and then my current for just over 2.5 years. On the other hand, you can just keep saying whatever got your the last job, because apparently that works for you. There isn't a lot of difference between 4 short jobs and 6 short jobs on a resume.
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Dik Hz posted:Yeah, you have had 6 jobs and only one over 3 years. That's a huge red flag to hiring managers. This. If the job I am hiring for is one where it'd be NBD if you left after 2 years, aight. I'd assume that's what will happen though.
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Wow, does that boomer bullshit actually still happen? I know it's expensive to train and onboard people, but If they don't like it, what would they rather you do about it? Lie? Why even bother interviewing the candidate if you're gonna give someone a hard time over it? It's all there in black and white; just deposit them into the circular file.
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Yeah, two years per job doesn't seem unreasonable to me. That's about when I expect to start seeing people explore their options. But I'm in the tech industry (not a SWE though) so ymmv. Multiple < 1 year stints with nothing longer would definitely be a red flag though.
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For engineers its hard to get the "senior" level of responsibilities and experience if you haven't stayed somewhere long enough to be trusted with responsibilities, been on a project from planning to sustainment, or studied a technology long enough to build strong problem solving skills. For this you often need 5 years of dedicated learning. This 5 years may be shortened and more fungible between companies with software than with aircraft materials and processes, but there is real value to engineers who go deep before they go broad in their experiences. Its why we dont have PhD and MS programs be continued broadening of introductory engineering topics.
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