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DeimosRising posted:those catches were of a completely different type. look at their average depth of catch and air yards Yea, Deebo is a YAC machine, there are still plenty of teams in the league that could get a ton of use out of a guy with the ability to take a relatively easy intermediate throw from the QB and double the yardage. You don’t get to 18 yards per reception by accident.
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I wonder if deebo is doing the math on average lifespan of an RB vs. a WR and despite his high value being in the combo wombo he brings, maybe he just wants to reduce the physical contact regardless. Adding ten more years to a career might be worth more than adding ten million a year more to his next 4-year contract.
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Coldforge posted:According to some of the Athletic reports, Deebo, AJ and DK all share the same agent, and part of the issue is that the agent is pushing hard to get Deebo signed first to set a floor for the other two. Leperflesh posted:I wonder if deebo is doing the math on average lifespan of an RB vs. a WR and despite his high value being in the combo wombo he brings, maybe he just wants to reduce the physical contact regardless. Adding ten more years to a career might be worth more than adding ten million a year more to his next 4-year contract. I think these two reasons for why Deebo wants out makes the most sense. He's listening to his agent about his value as a WR and WR's have longer careers by far. Sucks that the Niners are probably going to lose their best receiver, but go out and get paid Deebo. 
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What is his trade value? On one hand teams know he wants to leave, but on the other hand they still need to outbid each other to actually end up with him.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Yea, Deebo is a YAC machine, there are still plenty of teams in the league that could get a ton of use out of a guy with the ability to take a relatively easy intermediate throw from the QB and double the yardage. You don’t get to 18 yards per reception by accident. i'm not saying you do, he's a great player and the niners are likely to be dramatically worse without him (in fact if he does go, combined with starting a rookie qb, i doubt they make the playoffs). But he's not the same kind of player as those WRs, and i don't think he would be nearly as remarkable playing a more traditional wr role. he doesn't have great hands, he's small, he's probably not going to bring as much value to another team as the niners are losing. but i hope he's happier and gets paid, you only live once
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DeimosRising posted:he doesn't have great hands, he's small, he's probably not going to bring as much value to another team as the niners are losing. but i hope he's happier and gets paid, you only live once He and Chase are within an inch of each other and Deebo has like 15 pounds on him. I wouldn’t say he’s small. Most stud WRs these days are in the 6’ range. And yes, he’s a different type of player, but for a team that doesn’t have Rodgers or Burrow back there that may be a good thing. Not every offense is predicated on big shots downfield. Obviously he’s less valuable if he doesn’t want to take a bunch of RB snaps but he’s still worth a first rounder just based on what he can do at WR.
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If the rumors are true and Deebo doesn’t want to be involved with the run game then I understand where he’s coming from but that also makes him less valuable to the 49ers and I understand the sentiment that in that case someone doesn’t think he’s worth a mega deal.
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Dutchy posted:This sucks, Deebo was quickly becoming an all-time favorite Niner for me Yeah I don't like this one bit. Deebo owns so hard, he's one of the most unique players in the league and his pairing with Shanahan and the 49ers is just about as perfect as it gets. Of course he'll be great on another team but not nearly AS great, in my personal opinion. Him and the 49ers are a scheme match made in heaven. Still holding out hope that this is still more negotiating tactic than truly wanting out of the team, but that's starting to look less like reality. If I'm the 49ers, I pay the man what he wants . The team loses an enormous percentage of offense if they lose him and especially if they are planning to start Lance, they will need what he can do. DeimosRising posted:those catches were of a completely different type. look at their average depth of catch and air yards If anything that makes him more valuable not less. He produces a similar amount while not relying on the quarterback making difficult throws. Rad Valtar posted:If the rumors are true and Deebo doesn’t want to be involved with the run game then I understand where he’s coming from but that also makes him less valuable to the 49ers and I understand the sentiment that in that case someone doesn’t think he’s worth a mega deal. I would just agree to not involve him in the run game and just change his runs to screens or even cheeky little sweep forward passes that are still runs in all but name. I actually kind of agree that he might be a little too valuable to put in the backfield. The 49ers just need some better running backs, despite their ability to find decent late round guys I'm not a huge Elijah Mitchell fan and I think they need better.
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EmbryoSteve posted:deleted Deleted social media posts? Where have we seen that before.
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Tbh, he was only moved to the RB position because the 49ers had no other RBs. Sure he became really excellent at it, but I'm confused by Deebo and/or the 49ers assuming you're going to use him at the same rate when you have a healthy Elijah Mitchell Deleted already
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Coldforge posted:Deleted social media posts? Where have we seen that before. What did it say? Edit: \/ thanks MakaVillian fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Apr 21, 2022 |
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In all this mess, Deebo, as a niner, would see tons more sideline routes with Trey. Of course, that's after establishing the run.
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He's already referring to himself in the third person, I'm afraid that means the condition is progressing too rapidly; all hope is lost
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I’ve come around on the social media thing now that he has liked reporters’ tweets, then called out reporters’ tweets in a tweet, and finally deleted that tweet all in the same day.
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Play posted:If anything that makes him more valuable not less. He produces a similar amount while not relying on the quarterback making difficult throws.. Maybe I’m being unclear. We have very little information and are mostly speculating. If it’s true he’s unhappy with his role, I assume that’s not just that he doesn’t want to take occasional RB snaps, but doesn’t want to be used in those run in all but name plays either. If that’s the case, if he wants be a traditional wr/slot guy, he’s a lot less valuable. If the problem is really just 90 odd backfield snaps, I can’t imagine that would create this kind of major rift.
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Growing chatter about the Texans being in on Deebo. They have picks 3 and 13 so if there's a trade it'll probably happen this week. I imagine SF would much rather trade with the Texans than an NFC team.
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DeimosRising posted:Maybe I’m being unclear. We have very little information and are mostly speculating. If it’s true he’s unhappy with his role, I assume that’s not just that he doesn’t want to take occasional RB snaps, but doesn’t want to be used in those run in all but name plays either. If that’s the case, if he wants be a traditional wr/slot guy, he’s a lot less valuable. If the problem is really just 90 odd backfield snaps, I can’t imagine that would create this kind of major rift. FWIW the Niners' beat reporters do not think it's about role. Maiocco for example is saying that Deebo wasn't at all unhappy with the way he was used last year, from his conversations with him at the end of the playoffs. They also don't think it's about money, and could be something as simple as Deebo doesn't want to be on the West Coast anymore.
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Papercut posted:FWIW the Niners' beat reporters do not think it's about role. Maiocco for example is saying that Deebo wasn't at all unhappy with the way he was used last year, from his conversations with him at the end of the playoffs. Whatever else it may or may not be about, it's also about money.
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Coldforge posted:Whatever else it may or may not be about, it's also about money. Yeah unless they offer him the bank and he turns it down it’s fair to assume money is an issue, you just can’t say that
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Spoeank posted:https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1517580444639776768 They’re gonna draft a fullback.
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DariusLikewise posted:https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1517487522112323585?s=20&t=KN-Z9Ilz2K18Onip01CT0g It’s already been that long since Thomas has played in the nfl? Time, man…
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Coldforge posted:Whatever else it may or may not be about, it's also about money. Well to expand, what Maiocco said is that the Niners are willing to pay him like a top receiver, but that one issue may be that Deebo wants the extension to kick in this season instead of next year
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DariusLikewise posted:https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1517487522112323585?s=20&t=KN-Z9Ilz2K18Onip01CT0g I don’t think the Rams are that dumb but one can hope
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Papercut posted:Well to expand, what Maiocco said is that the Niners are willing to pay him like a top receiver, but that one issue may be that Deebo wants the extension to kick in this season instead of next year Which says absolutely nothing, though. Maiocco's great, but it's still a bunch of "like a top reciever" and "may be that" speculation best guesses. Both those things are about money, whatever the truth may be.
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DariusLikewise posted:https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1517487522112323585?s=20&t=KN-Z9Ilz2K18Onip01CT0g It'll never happen. Wikipedia posted:On August 21, 2020, Thomas and fellow safety Chuck Clark got into an altercation during practice after Thomas missed a coverage that allowed Mark Andrews to score a long touchdown. Thomas then punched Clark and was sent home. After the Ravens advised Thomas not to come to practice on August 22, they released him the next day for conduct detrimental to the team–or, as the team put it, "personal conduct that has adversely affected the Baltimore Ravens". His release came after players told coach John Harbaugh and general manager Eric DeCosta that they did not want Thomas back on the team. Harbaugh consulted the team's "Leadership Council" of veteran players, and only one of them wanted Thomas to return. No other team signed him during the season.
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From what I read, Earl Thomas has always been insane but there was so much talent around him in Seattle in the legion of boom that he could more or less do what he wanted. When he moved to Boston he didn't have that safety blanket and just fell apart. Also, lol that orgy thing with his brother
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