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dhamster posted:Computer chess tournaments have many games that end in mate, even though each side is doing the top computer move Don't computer chess tournaments also start from the middle game (using an opening database) specifically to force imbalanced situations
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I'd expect if they didn't stockfish would just repeat the same game over and over and alphazero might too depending on if the previous game was added to its model or not
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Apr 9, 2022 20:22
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Interesting, I did not know that.
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Apr 9, 2022 20:48
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cheetah7071 posted:Don't computer chess tournaments also start from the middle game (using an opening database) specifically to force imbalanced situations Not quite middle game, but generally the first five or so moves yes.
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Apr 10, 2022 00:55
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Ladies and gentlemen I present to you: https://lichess.org/GXfvx5aWkbTv Scamming the KBN v K endgame by hitting the 50 move draw one move before mate.
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Apr 11, 2022 01:02
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Hand Knit posted:Ladies and gentlemen I present to you: You could hear their howl of frustration through the internet!  I love making the enemy king take a long trip across the board to visit my own king in his castle.
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Hand Knit posted:Ladies and gentlemen I present to you: A work of beauty.
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Baronash posted:Just generally, do you think it's possible for a game of chess to end in mate without either player making a mistake (or what a modern chess engine would classify as a mistake)? I don't mean theoretical perfect play, but could a couple of middling chess players play a game where they're not always playing the top engine move, and those imperfections accumulate into one player being a pawn up or in an advantageous position without an engine classifying any single move as "wrong"? Or would your opponent probably be in a position to force a draw in those circumstances? I'm a titled correspondence player on ICCF, the FIDE recognized body over international correspondence. Engine assistance is legal on ICCF. 1) I have won games where I have won where my opponent played "perfectly" according to that generation's version of stockfish, sure. 2) Stockfish has gotten much better since then with NNUE, and now it would consider some of those moves as inaccuracies at the least 3) Super GMs have a very hard time playing games without an engine finding mistakes, so middling chess players in your example it would be practically impossible in open play. Since you are saying not perfect play, like if you play with the third best move every move so long as it isn't a negative eval while any even eval is available, then yes, it would still be possible, even easy, for one side to accumulate a winning advantage. But the same engine may when doing analysis of a game from the end be able to reevaluate those moves and call some mistakes and inaccuracies in retrospect. jiggerypokery posted:No one really knows if perfect play is a draw because chess isn't solved. It can't ever be solved either. cheetah7071 posted:Don't computer chess tournaments also start from the middle game (using an opening database) specifically to force imbalanced situations Very large databases of recent computer games, especially decisive ones, have always been very interesting to correspondence players. Even players on sites that don't allow engines tend to allow databases after all.
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Apr 12, 2022 15:41
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I think its fair to say we know chess is a draw in the way we know the value of pi. I actually wonder if it wasn't fundamentally a draw it would be anything like as important as it is as a human sport. I suppose given perfect play tennis is a draw too. It would just be an infinite rally till the heat death of the universe. It's the error that makes it interesting
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Apr 13, 2022 17:07
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dhamster posted:Is aimchess premium worth it? I thought I was getting somewhere in terms of bullet rating but I've been pretty stagnant around 1150 for awhile now. I'm not really sure what I should be doing to improve, because just playing a lot of games isn't getting me very far lately. It's weird because I had really steady improvement when I was playing rapid rapid, but bullet has just not been working out for me in the same way. Been having a really good couple of days and I'm at an all time high of Does anyone know of some solid attacking lines against the caro kann? I started to have a more fun time against the Sicilian when I started to learn the Grand Prix, and although I play caro kann as black all the time, I find myself a little bit aimless playing against it as white. dhamster fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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Apr 13, 2022 17:50
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jiggerypokery posted:I think its fair to say we know chess is a draw in the way we know the value of pi. I actually wonder if it wasn't fundamentally a draw it would be anything like as important as it is as a human sport. Perfect golf would be hella satisfying though. Tiny white ball curving and arcing eighteen times over nearly 4 miles of grass, impeccably locating its three-inch target each time...
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dhamster posted:Been having a really good couple of days and I'm at an all time high of go h5 after bf5?
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Apr 14, 2022 01:57
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dhamster posted:Does anyone know of some solid attacking lines against the caro kann? I started to have a more fun time against the Sicilian when I started to learn the Grand Prix, and although I play caro kann as black all the time, I find myself a little bit aimless playing against it as white.
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Apr 14, 2022 05:19
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im around 1500 bullet on lichess and my favorite attacking line against caro kann at this level is 1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. h4 it’s statistically the winningest common opening against people at my rating level, although that is largely because a good 1/4 to 1/3 of the time they play e6 and trap their bishop if they respond with the more common move h6 then you continue attacking with 5. g4 Bh7 6. e6 fxe6 7. Bd3 which leaves you with very good practical chances for winning the game especially because blacks king is now exposed along the diagonal that the f pawn should be guarding this exact line comes up very often for me, it’s super common and gives white a lot of attacking chances (below is filtered for bullet and blitz rating under 1800) 
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Apr 14, 2022 07:10
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Thanks for the ideas, those both look really interesting. I'll try these out and see what happens. I usually play the exchange instead of the advance but I like how h4 h5 gives an outpost for the black bishop. The bayonet attack looks really venomous as well. Stuff like this keeps me interested in the game.
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Apr 14, 2022 10:02
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D34THROW posted:Perfect golf would be hella satisfying though. Tiny white ball curving and arcing eighteen times over nearly 4 miles of grass, impeccably locating its three-inch target each time... Can you imagine? Boston dynamics running robo golf tournaments as the next stage of the ai chess dick swinging contests of the last 50 years.
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Apr 14, 2022 11:16
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Maybe this isn't the exact best place to post this, but it _is_ chess related. I'm very new to the game and have been learning since maybe a few months ago. I'm trying to understand some tactical basics and have been playing a lot against the CPU on lichess, ramping up the level as I succeed. I have trouble with some of the middle game and am still trying to understand the precepts behind certain openings. What are some recommended resources for newbies like me? As well as valuable advice in terms of play? I am aware of trying to control the middle of the board early and stuff like that.
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Apr 14, 2022 15:05
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find daniel naroditsky’s youtube channel, watch his Oh My Lands playlist from the start until it feels like it’s getting too high level for you, then watch his new Sensei playlist from the start
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Apr 14, 2022 15:14
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Thanks. Presuming the first playlist you mentioned is this one?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WPNVHZmYE8
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Apr 14, 2022 15:22
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yep, that’s the one!
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Apr 14, 2022 15:24
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dhamster posted:Does anyone know of some solid attacking lines against the caro kann? I started to have a more fun time against the Sicilian when I started to learn the Grand Prix, and although I play caro kann as black all the time, I find myself a little bit aimless playing against it as white. two knights is a lot of fun against the caro-kann. lot of easy traps for black to fall into
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Apr 15, 2022 02:12
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Does anyone have any insight into why the computer thinks I should exchange a queen for a rook? This is chess.com app.
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Apr 17, 2022 03:40
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The queen and rook are about to mate you. The only way to avoid that is to get rid of one of them. The rook is the only one you can take out. It's the best move in a very bad situation.
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Apr 17, 2022 03:46
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poonchasta posted:Does anyone have any insight into why the computer thinks I should exchange a queen for a rook? This is chess.com app. Youre in a precarious position so it recommends you simplify. Its high level computer precision
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Control Volume posted:Its high level computer precision …what? It’s the only move that doesn’t lead to a (pretty obvious) forced mate. Baronash fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Apr 17, 2022 |
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Apr 17, 2022 04:29
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Honestly at lower elos you're probably better off keeping your queen and hoping they don't find mate and then blunder away their advantage
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Apr 17, 2022 04:45
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Thank you, all. I have platinum membership on chess.com for unlimited analysis and puzzles. Is it worth it to upgrade to diamond for a ELO 600 ish player? The insights feature that analyzes your games and tells you what you suck at seems like a good feature.
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Apr 17, 2022 05:43
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poonchasta posted:Thank you, all. You can get a free trial of diamond here: lichess.org
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Salt Fish posted:You can get a free trial of diamond here: lichess.org I don't feel comfortable using that site since their source code got hacked.
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poonchasta posted:I don't feel comfortable using that site since their source code got hacked. i'm not sure what level we're on here
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poonchasta posted:I don't feel comfortable using that site since their source code got hacked. ive been saying this
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Maybe sign up for aimchess's free monthly analysis? My opinion is paying for analysis at a level under... Not sure what exactly, maybe strong club player/~1800 chess.com rating? is not worth it because your weaknesses will be too numerous and basic things that don't require much analysis. Learn an opening you're comfortable with, check your king safety, look for hanging pieces, that kind of thing. Interested to hear what others think though. poonchasta posted:Is it worth it to upgrade to diamond... [edit] the main point being there are plenty of free resources that are more useful at this stage Esposito fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Apr 17, 2022 |
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poonchasta posted:Thank you, all. i have diamond and get some utility out of it, but honestly at that elo your biggest gains are probably going to be from spotting hanging pieces, and you don't need fancy analysis for that
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Baronash posted:…what? It’s the only move that doesn’t lead to a (pretty obvious) forced mate. With enough time and resources the computer woudl say they all lead to forced mate  
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Or you can go down the engine wormhole and buy a copy of Kommodo like I did and document all your games in a master library so every lovely 1000 elo 10 min rapid game you have done is in the record books.
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algebra testes posted:Or you can go down the engine wormhole and buy a copy of Kommodo like I did and document all your games in a master library so every lovely 1000 elo 10 min rapid game you have done is in the record books. Isn't every online chess game recorded anyway?
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I realize it's chesscom and doesn't really mean much, but I hit 66.6 percentile rapid so hail Satan. Dumb milestones like that make me feel better about being an adult learner as well as a bad trying to work my way to becoming not-terrible.
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I guess chess.com is selling NFTs now, or planning to https://www.chess.com/legal/user-agreement I've gone and closed my account, lichess is good enough.
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What are they gonna do? Sell 1.e4 lol
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jiggerypokery posted:What are they gonna do? Sell 1.e4 lol
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