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Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
"Remember when the insurrectionists were cool?"

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Trapezium Dave posted:

Rall: We Don't Know Much



Rall has now entered the Trump zone where "many people don't know" = "I don't know and damned if I'll admit anyone knows things I don't"

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
This happened across my timeline. Yeah, I can see why they'd have to apologise for that one.

https://twitter.com/mediaINDIGENA/status/1517154981681410048


This metaphor doesn't shed light on the issue at all, but it does give Ramirez the chance to draw some cool machinery.

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




Forgot last week's (and the previous one too, but that's a bit far now...)

Charlie Hebdo




US: Passport applicants can check 'X' instead of 'Male' or 'Female'


30 Years of Disneyland Paris


Spring Training Women's Hockey in Grenoble


Cannes selection announced


Dutronc and Dutronc at the Casino of Paris


Invictus Games at the Hague: Competition for the wounded and casualties of war


Easter
And I guess they do a daily drawing? I'll try to stay on top of it (I say this just as I'm going to be VERY occupied for the next 3 weeks seeing my family for the first time in several years):


No need to be president: "I'm already First Lady."

Le Monde

15/4

by Maarten Wolterink from the Netherlands

19/4

by Hall from the United States


"Tensions rise between Hamas and the Israeli army"
by Martirena from Cuba


by Micaël presumably French

20/4


TV: The Debate between the two rounds
"Who're you for Gilles Bouleau or Léa Salamé?"
by Dilem from Algeria, it seems those two are the moderators for the presidential debate that was held

21/4


"It's a war crime! ...that Ukraine has yet to fall!"
by Chappatte from Switzerland

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

100YrsofAttitude posted:


US: Passport applicants can check 'X' instead of 'Male' or 'Female'

Aw yeah, love me some classic gender essentialism in the mornings

ScruffMcGruff
Sep 26, 2007
Scruffy's rollin' out the big pill...

Trapezium Dave posted:

Rall: We Don't Know Much


Yes, Todd. We do know about Ukraine and the people there. Comparing supporting a legitimate government against invasion vs the countless times the US supported insurrectionist forces without caring about the end game is about as obtuse as you can get.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

Shouldn't you be happy about not prosecuting gun crimes? Isn't that your thing?

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor
Christ, the :dogwhistle: going on in there is impressive. Although I guess we can be thankful that Stiglich has gone back to doing that instead of opening suggesting we should hunt Black people for sport, like in 2020?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Stultus Maximus posted:

Rall has now entered the Trump zone where "many people don't know" = "I don't know and damned if I'll admit anyone knows things I don't"

Not quite. He's entered the Trump Zone of "I'm getting paid to support Russia". I mean, come on - this cartoon is literally suggesting that aid to Ukraine be withdrawn because they might be our enemies next if we help stop Russia conquering them. Last time we had a war this size in Europe, we executed people for this poo poo.

Meanwhile, if you want some irony: in Mariupol the last holdout defenders against Putin's "de-Nazification programme" are pinned in the Azovstal steelworks and are out of ammo. The Russians could kill them or overrun them at any time with basically zero losses, but have instead chosen to leave them in place. Those defenders? The Azov battalion, who actually are Nazis.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...



nonsense, this is an election year

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Tibalt posted:

Masks cause excruciating death now?

Or does Mike think he'll suffer an excruciating death from covid due to not wearing a mask, but it's okay because the freedom attracts illegal immigrants?

I think some people wre shitpostinng at him.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
It's worth clicking through to see the stewardesses' expression of polite concern

https://twitter.com/BillBramhall/status/1517505317080387585

oobey
Nov 19, 2002

Mr. Squishy posted:

This happened across my timeline. Yeah, I can see why they'd have to apologise for that one.

https://twitter.com/mediaINDIGENA/status/1517154981681410048

I'll confess my ignorance. What makes this cartoon offensive? The related article and twitter replies are all just acknowledging it sucks but... and I hate to say this... I need the suckage explicitly spelled out for me, please? Is the problem entirely centered around the presence of the ceremonial headdress, and the fact that no one goes around dressed like that anymore, or is there a deeper objection to the content of the cartoon itself?

Because my reading of it is in line with what the article offered as the intended reading of the cartoon: the pope is being rightfully rebuked for not including actual concrete compensation along with his apology.

What am I missing?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!


Kikas
Oct 30, 2012
Oh gently caress off, Stanis.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
He can now keep running that same strip forever and it wouldn't affect the plot progression or pace.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

I thought the joke was nobody was voting for the author stand-in because Americans are too stupid and mean to appreciate smart nuanced politics like "big money controlling politics is bad and also the government shouldn't pass any laws against it or do anything ever", how is it a tie, is it a 0-0 tie?

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

quote:

The Disney groomers are seeing a push back of Biblical proportions. Seven out of ten parents are canceling their Disney Plus. People are selling their Disney stock and refusing to do business with the “woke” corporation.

I'm interested to know where this particular bullshit fact came from. Like, I realize that creating the illusion of "and the AMERICAN PEOPLE are on our side :911:" is extremely important to the right wing media bubble, but most outlets just sorta imply there's a huge movement behind them but eschew any actual numbers. If 70% of the American public was canceling a subscription to one of the largest media companies, explicitly for homophobic reasons, you'd think that outlets other than realeaglenews dot biz would, y'know, notice.

oobey posted:

Because my reading of it is in line with what the article offered as the intended reading of the cartoon: the pope is being rightfully rebuked for not including actual concrete compensation along with his apology.

What am I missing?

Barring anything about the headdress (which I won't comment on because I'm an ignorant white boy), the comic can easily be read as "listen, the Pope is genuinely sorry for the Catholic Church's treatment of indigenous peoples! But now this LAWYER is here DEMANDING cash from the poor little Pope, it's ridiculous! He said he was sorry!"

From the article in that tweet, the supposed intention was to illustrate that a simple apology isn't enough, but it's one of those weird situations where the visual language of political cartoons sort of automatically casts the lawyer and indigenous person as the "villain" of the piece. "Genuine statement (that should be taken seriously)" followed by "snarky follow-up (which shows how ridiculous my political opponents are)" is baked in to the medium by this point, look at any Ramirez cartoon.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Jedit posted:

Not quite. He's entered the Trump Zone of "I'm getting paid to support Russia". I mean, come on - this cartoon is literally suggesting that aid to Ukraine be withdrawn because they might be our enemies next if we help stop Russia conquering them. Last time we had a war this size in Europe, we executed people for this poo poo.


Executing antiwar dissenters was bad though right

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

VitalSigns posted:

I thought the joke was nobody was voting for the author stand-in because Americans are too stupid and mean to appreciate smart nuanced politics like "big money controlling politics is bad and also the government shouldn't pass any laws against it or do anything ever", how is it a tie, is it a 0-0 tie?
1-1, each voted for themself.

It's between the two libertarians for the libertarian party leadership though isn't it? In which case why 'the law', shouldn't it be 'the rational voluntary contractual constitution of the LP which is definitely not a law'?

oobey
Nov 19, 2002

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

From the article in that tweet, the supposed intention was to illustrate that a simple apology isn't enough, but it's one of those weird situations where the visual language of political cartoons sort of automatically casts the lawyer and indigenous person as the "villain" of the piece. "Genuine statement (that should be taken seriously)" followed by "snarky follow-up (which shows how ridiculous my political opponents are)" is baked in to the medium by this point, look at any Ramirez cartoon.

That makes sense. Thanks!

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009
The dollar sign in "$orry" also feels like it pushes toward presenting the speaker as greedy/money-obsessed, even if that wasn't the cartoonist's intent.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Guavanaut posted:

1-1, each voted for themself.

It's between the two libertarians for the libertarian party leadership though isn't it? In which case why 'the law', shouldn't it be 'the rational voluntary contractual constitution of the LP which is definitely not a law'?
Yeah that too, we saw the DNC win the lawsuit accusing them of rigging primaries by arguing the question of whether they did is moot because it's their legal right as a private political party to rig primaries if they choose (also superdelegates etc), therefore if the imaginary Prickly City Libertarian Party primary winner is being decided in a stupid way that's 100% the Libertarian Party's fault in the first place

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Apr 22, 2022

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule


If the dinosaurs had caused their own extinction, we'd speak of them very differently, wouldn't we?

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Ben Jennings on Nadhim Zahawi’s rejection of a ban on smacking children – The education secretary has rejected calls for a ban on ​parents ​smacking children in England, ​revealing that his wife has occasionally given their daughter a ‘light smack on the arm’"

Telegraph:

Vladimir Putin tests ‘Satan II’ – a nuclear missile with a dozen warheads that can hit ‘anywhere in world’

Matt:


Independent:

Johnson dubs UK and India partnership ‘vital’ ahead of meeting with Modi

Times:


Evening Standard:

Partygate: Boris Johnson ally Conor Burns says ‘there’s no question of PM going’

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Raised By Birds posted:



Two different items in his list are just "something big gonna happen, I swear." One even including "any day now," without me having to say it.

quote:

Florida has revoked Disney’s “special tax status,” meaning Disney will be paying Florida a cool $200 million in extra taxes per year. Think that’s “goofy”? We don’t!

But they won’t :lol: the RCID gets an extra $160 mil from Disney cause they set their own taxes to take care of their own infrastructure in addition to the $60 mil they pay to Orange County for property tax. By getting rid of the RCID that amount of upkeep Disney alone was paying instead gets shifted to the public tax payers in the surrounding counties and they also get the cool 1 billion dollar bond that belonged to RCID

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
British cartoonists hearing the word "India": "That's the place with the fakirs and snake charmers and genies right?

Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019
Every britoonist secretly wishes they were drawing for Tin Tin.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Down to the racist stories?

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
they already said they were british

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
:siren:Last chance! Voting in the Kellies ends at midnight tomorrow, April 23!:siren:

Please go to the voting thread to see the nominees and cast your votes. Several categories are still very close!

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

:australia:: Four weeks to go to the election

Rowe:

Opposition leader Anthony Albanese has contracted COVID-19 and is in isolation for a week (he's campaigning virtually and sending out the rest of his team). Scott Morrison is trying to pivot away from the Solomons diplomatic disaster by doubling down on how Labor is weak on China by attacking the Labor deputy: Scott Morrison accuses Richard Marles of being soft on China, rejects Solomon Islands criticism (ABC).

Pope:

The teal independents are the Voices group that all use teal as their colour branding and are running with a strong climate change position against Coalition MPs. Treasurer Josh Frydenberg as a moderate Liberal has been bouncing around trying to help his side as Scott Morrison is seen as too odious in those electorates, but Frydenberg has a teal challenger of his own which polling suggests has a decent chance of defeating him.

Shakespeare:


Moir:


Leak, Son of Leak:

Scott Morrison and Peter Dutton hit out at Richard Marles over his remarks about China's presence in the Pacific (Sky News).
The lines Marles wrote last August in Tides that Bind that Morrison, Dutton and the Australian are slamming are ""Australia has no right to expect a set of exclusive relationships with Pacific nations... They are perfectly free to engaged on whatever terms they choose with China or, for that matter, any other country. Disputing this would be resented, as the recent past has shown."
Morrison says these lines show that Marles thinks Australia should not be resisting China's involvement in the Pacific region. Marles has responded by saying we should be doing more in the region to earn the right to engage with nations free to make their own decision (that is the blurb of the actual book).

Knight:

We're going to get a whole campaign full of these cartoons as the issue is tearing the Liberals apart Coalition MPs urge caution over ‘redundant’ bill to exclude trans women from female sport (Guardian).
There is potential for it to bring down the NSW state government as they are in minority and they only have one independent's support on the guarantee that they stick up for LGBT+ rights.

Leunig:

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*


I hate how I have to hear so much about one D.A.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Alhazred posted:

This is another cartoon where you have to be super duper transphobic to "get". To someone normal it's just a trans woman using the bathroom and no one is hurt by it.

A couple pages back, but: what the gently caress happened to Ishida? It's probably been decades since I read Sinfest but it was a goofy fun strip back then. How did it turn into... this? :psyduck:

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.

Fuschia tude posted:

A couple pages back, but: what the gently caress happened to Ishida? It's probably been decades since I read Sinfest but it was a goofy fun strip back then. How did it turn into... this? :psyduck:

You're in luck, because a fuckton of words have been written trying to explain it. He was sorta lefty, fell into SWERFism, which lead to TERFism, which folded back into standard right-wing nutter stuff about the world being controlled by jews lizard people.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Also there was some recovering fundie Christian to South Park libertarian in there and so at some point I guess he's going back to fundie via the Bill Cooper to Jennifer Bilek to serpent seed scenic route.

There's a very long twitter thread on the whole thing
https://twitter.com/bitterkarella/status/1498104642881798149

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Fuschia tude posted:

A couple pages back, but: what the gently caress happened to Ishida? It's probably been decades since I read Sinfest but it was a goofy fun strip back then. How did it turn into... this? :psyduck:

I know the term "slippery slope" gets used in a lot of dumb ways, but when it comes to bigotry a lot of times that's how it works.

At some point Ishida decided it was okay to dehumanize trans women because their existence was, in and of itself, a bad thing. He experienced blow back on this and was faced with two options:

A) examine his bias and change his worldview to something less cruel and degrading.

Or

B) Double Down

He picked B and just sort of started spiraling down over the years becoming more and more intolerant as he began accepting increasingly insane right-wing talking points as truth.

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Guavanaut posted:

Also there was some recovering fundie Christian to South Park libertarian in there and so at some point I guess he's going back to fundie via the Bill Cooper to Jennifer Bilek to serpent seed scenic route.

There's a very long twitter thread on the whole thing
https://twitter.com/bitterkarella/status/1498104642881798149

It's a massive read but it was enlightening. It's hilarious seeing the old strips genderbending the protagonist and talking about how the gender binary is bullshit. Ishida went from that to full-throated support for terfism

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Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

I know the term "slippery slope" gets used in a lot of dumb ways, but when it comes to bigotry a lot of times that's how it works.

At some point Ishida decided it was okay to dehumanize trans women because their existence was, in and of itself, a bad thing. He experienced blow back on this and was faced with two options:

A) examine his bias and change his worldview to something less cruel and degrading.

Or

B) Double Down

He picked B and just sort of started spiraling down over the years becoming more and more intolerant as he began accepting increasingly insane right-wing talking points as truth.

I suppose punching down and loudly insisting you're punching up also probably prepares the mind for modern conservatism more generally.

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