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Splicer posted:So many regional news sites absolutely livid about not being able to collect my data.
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They would've made this so much easier on themselves if they just standardized the content of these display messages with clear opt in or opt out check boxes.
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Perestroika posted:Yeah, there are a lot of cheeky attempts to try and trick people into giving consent against their will. Especially early on right after the passage of the GDPR, some cheeky fuckers only gave you a list of their 100+ advertisers and you'd have to manually click and opt out of them one at a time. However, the legal guidelines are actually quite clear on it: opting out must be as quick and easy to do as opting in, and obviously cannot be deceptive. Most of the common plugins manage it at this point, but there are still some that expect you to go through several screens to opt out. And of course there are still some US sites that outright go "Well if you don't let us dump a hundred trackers on you, we just won't let you use our site at all!" Don't forget that if you opt out, you have to opt out every time you go to the site. If you opt in (say on accident) you only have to once. And the dialogue is setup such that even after you unselect everything the button at the bottom right that stands out is "actually accept all". It is nice that tech is putting all that A/B into what works and doesn't to use.
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Apr 22, 2022 14:40
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[that guillotine gif but with actively malicious web devs instead of families and their income]
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Am I just brain poisoned? I really don't see how this is a dark pattern.
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Neito posted:Am I just brain poisoned? I really don't see how this is a dark pattern. Apparently you are  How is it not a dark pattern?
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Jose Valasquez posted:Apparently you are The options are clearly labeled and the button to save these changes is clearly labeled. IDK I could just be thinking too much; UX isn't my specialty after all.
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Neito posted:The options are clearly labeled and the button to save these changes is clearly labeled. IDK I could just be thinking too much; UX isn't my specialty after all.
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TACD posted:Did you notice the 'OFF' toggles are highlighted red and the 'ON' toggles are in grey? Like it's not the absolute worst thing I've seen but it's very deliberately devious. "Red" being "Off" isn't really a dark pattern IMO, but I acquiesce.
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The typical signifiers are for something to be bright and colored when selected/on, and dark and grey when unselected/off, not mention toggled left when selected and toggled right when unselected.
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I'm colorblind and didn't see the 'dark pattern' either. This is probably why they have me do back end. I thought it was a forest green.
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Tesla autopilot in action: https://twitter.com/Phylan/status/1517507755162148864
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Freakazoid_ posted:Not surprising, the concern for self driving cars appears to be about lost jobs. Being an American from the deepest, sweatiest part of the Deep South, I can say about as well as anyone else in this thread that suspicion over new tech is multifaceted, with more people here thinking it sounds "commie" or "socialist" or "Satanic" than anything. But absolutely, the Protestant Work Ethic is ungodly strong, and the concept of people not working to survive might as well be considered actual Satanism. Plenty of these types would eagerly and actively vote to put the poor in death camps if automation ever took all jobs just because of how awful the idea of letting the poor live it up sounds. Not themselves, mind you, but all those other poors, especially THOSE kinds? If robots take all jobs and it came down to UBI or fully-automated luxury communism vs. just getting rid of the poor, I can pretty reliably guess the majority's going for the latter. Like I expect the wealthy to be less "kill the poor" than the poor themselves because at least they still need consumers. But this causes a bit of doublethink because plenty of people who feel this way are dogmatically sure that it can't happen, because "my job can't be automated" (hilarious when it's a job that's been widely automated and the only reason we haven't done it is because the managers can't afford to invest in it). Ultimately though, for a lot of people, they just can't fathom the idea of living without a job. If it was just for themselves, that wouldn't be an issue, I'm sure bullshit jobs could be conjured to keep them pacified. It's the fanatical obsession to make sure everyone else also has a job they aren't happy with that's leading towards us a Luddite catastrophe around these parts. The propaganda's working too well, methinks.
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More on that whole Walgreens thing where a glass window doesn't suffice to show you the products in the refrigerator. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/12/business/walgreens-freezer-screens/index.html I think we should just make it so you have an app on your phone that shows you the screen, then when you log into it, the digital display door pops up, plays an ad and then lets your open it to get your Gatorade. quote:Walgreens and other retailers have swapped out the clear fridge and freezer doors at thousands of stores, instead adding opaque doors with iPad-like screens showing what’s inside. Some customers really, really aren’t into it. This poo poo is so loving stupid. Another solution in search of a problem. I have never had an issue looking through a pane of glass to view a product I want to buy, ever. People get paid six figure incomes to come up with stupid poo poo like this.
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Your mistake is believing them when they say that this is for customer benefit, instead of those sweet, sweet analytics and ad revenue. They're solving a problem, it's just that the solution isn't meant for you, the customer, it's for their problem of "why haven't we monetized these flat surfaces yet somehow"
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quote:But for customers who just want to peek into the freezer and grab their ice cream, Walgreens (WBA) risks angering them by solving a problem that FTFT
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BiggerBoat posted:I think we should just make it so you have an app on your phone that shows you the screen, then when you log into it, the digital display door pops up, plays an ad and then lets your open it to get your Gatorade.
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Can it send me coupons.
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TACD posted:This, except of course each refrigerator manufacturer has their own app. And you’ll need to register with each one so it can verify your age to hide age-restricted products (can you believe we used to just let kids open up the fridge and see the beer right there?) and notify you whenever there’s a great deal on chilled products in your area! on the subject of age gated stuff, I find it funny that youtube and other relatively surface level websites have legit age gates, yet just about all porn sites and just about every account creation process is like "yo you say your DOB is this/your over 18? kay."
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PhazonLink posted:on the subject of age gated stuff, I find it funny that youtube and other relatively surface level websites have legit age gates, yet just about all porn sites and just about every account creation process is like "yo you say your DOB is this/your over 18? kay." It’s because the age gate is an opportunity for the social media giants to force people to create/link accounts. The porn companies know that people are just going to go elsewhere and/or create accounts with fake and useless personal data.
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pffff well jokes on google/youtube, I just use one of the those youtube mirror/bypasser sites or services.
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PhazonLink posted:on the subject of age gated stuff, I find it funny that youtube and other relatively surface level websites have legit age gates, yet just about all porn sites and just about every account creation process is like "yo you say your DOB is this/your over 18? kay." Google ostensibly contains things that are not porn, so a childe stumbling into it is a problem, along with all of the governments who would be ecstatic to use a "think of the children" for political points. Porn sites are, mostly outside of jokes, entirely for things children shouldn't be there for, so it's now the parents' fault if they see something. I suspect there's also a tacit "brown paper bag" compromise between regulators and porn sites. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YrWiwUM3FA
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PhazonLink posted:on the subject of age gated stuff, I find it funny that youtube and other relatively surface level websites have legit age gates, yet just about all porn sites and just about every account creation process is like "yo you say your DOB is this/your over 18? kay." If they are stupid enough to do it I’m hoping it’ll bring VPN usage into the mainstream Either that or the rest of the world will just cut the UK off so we can achieve internexit and spare you all from our cursed posting 🇬🇧
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withak posted:Can it send me coupons.
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withak posted:Can it send me coupons.
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TACD posted:the UK keeps threatening to implement a serious for-realsies age gating requirement on any site hosting porn (including eg Reddit and Twitter), involving handing over your credit card details to a Secure and Trusted™ third-party site, but it hasn’t happened yet A funny thing that is not immediately obvious about porn sites is that they are incredibly, extremely scrupulous and above board about their payment/credit card processing and security. By the nature of the industry they deal with incredible amounts of fraud, chargebacks ("Oh honey no, someone must have hacked our card! I would never have paid for a Playboy subscription!"), et cetera so they're always trying to do the absolute best they can to stay on good terms with the payment companies, reduce consumer complaints, and so on. They know that pulling the kind of poo poo many regular companies do (such as Apple, who hand out free trials only as long as you have a listed credit card for them to bill at the end for a subscription) would pretty much wreck their income instantly.
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Looking forward to seeing something similar on those Walgreens fridge doors. https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1518394016655577088
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Doggles posted:Looking forward to seeing something similar on those Walgreens fridge doors. I'm guessing it's just displaying a PDF doc that they can't easily edit. I would hope the stupid fridge doors are slightly more configurable. There Bias Two fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Apr 25, 2022 |
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There Bias Two posted:I'm guessing it's just displaying a PDF doc that they can't easily edit. As someone who worked at a startup adjacent to the fridge/shelf layout space (but not in these digital ones) there is no reason to hope that. Even if the fridge startup wanted it to be and provided a comprehensive API, there’s no reason to believe the companies producing the shelf product could create anything more complex than a PDF.
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There Bias Two posted:I'm guessing it's just displaying a PDF doc that they can't easily edit. The second they allow staff to change up the fridge door displays is the second someone posts an image of their cock on them.
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Now that various fast food places are using TV menu's I half expect them to now move to dynamic pricing.
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Metaverse you say? More like Metabunchofpedos. A Barrage Of Assault, Racism And Rape Jokes: My Nightmare Trip Into The Metaverse This is only the second paragraph... *CW, the headline pretty much explains it* quote:But within the first 10 minutes of putting on a VR headset and entering a chat room, I saw underage kids simulating oral sex on each other. I experienced sexual harassment, racism and rape jokes. At one point, I heard someone say “I like little girls from the age of nine to 12: that’s just my thing.” https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/apr/25/a-barrage-of-assault-racism-and-jokes-my-nightmare-trip-into-the-metaverse
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To be fair, I'm sure that Meta's best-in-class moderation team will weed out the one or two people displaying inappropriate behaviour. Like they have on Facebook, I mean. Also, previous attempts at metaverses like Second Life are famous for their restraint, after all. Sagacity fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Apr 25, 2022 |
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Sagacity posted:Also, previous attempts at metaverses like Second Life are famous for their restraint , after all. I see what you did there. 
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The company formally known as Facebook unilaterally decided to appropriate and get credit for the entire VR ecosystem. Them getting thoroughly railed in the media for stuff that is completely out of their control as a direct result is some prime schadenfreude if I've ever seen any.
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https://twitter.com/ebakerwhite/status/1518594503363284992quote:MetaDocs founder Dr. Sina Joorabchi hopes it will evolve into a full-fledged virtual clinic in the so-called metaverse, where patients can put on a haptic suit and be examined remotely by a physician in virtual reality. Why are we hurtling toward the stupidest version of a cyberpunk dystopia?
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Doggles posted:Why are we hurtling toward the stupidest version of a cyberpunk dystopia? Because being rich enough to invest in tech companies and having any kind of merit are two entirely different things
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Doggles posted:Why are we hurtling toward the stupidest version of a cyberpunk dystopia? What is the financial incentive for creating a better world...?
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