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ulmont posted:It’s the only reasonable way to get to South Georgia from New Orleans. Still not seeing a reasonable scenario there.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:This owns. Even if it’s all just a weird happenstance of random accidents, this is absolutely gonna make the Russians super paranoid and throw them off balance, well whatever little bounce they have. Yeah I'm sure they will investigate this in the calm, rational manner that has come to be expected of the KGB or FSB or whatever they're called now.
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btw head of roskosmos has been an exceptionally vocal supporter of the war in Ukraine
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Deteriorata posted:Anything they don't want the west to see. If they leave it, it won't stay there. Is it surrounded by ships with modern anti-missile stuff? If they can sink a 43 year old ship, how is one that's 69 (nice) years older going to survive?
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Kesper North posted:how is he going to drop the ISS on us now He still can, they just won't be able to learn anything from the experience.
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Ukraine is hitting Russia hard. I can't imagine how bad it would be to lose an entire command center. https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1517620500515770369?t=FyYXxtStZJq5kkqksehkew&s=19
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ASAPI posted:Ukraine is hitting Russia hard. I can't imagine how bad it would be to lose an entire command center. If true, it would presumably be a big victory, but I guess I'm going to wait for confirmation from some other sources.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:If true, it would presumably be a big victory, but I guess I'm going to wait for confirmation from some other sources. Look, we reached out to Russian command for comment, but they have yet to respond
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Look, we reached out to Russian command for comment, but they have yet to respond I mean, there are a number of ways it could be confirmed--intercepted communications, obituaries, satellite, etc. But "we killed 50 officers at once" is a pretty massive claim, so I think it requires a bit more proof than just "a Ukrainian side official said so."
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Look, we reached out to Russian command for comment, but they have yet to respond 
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50 dead Russian officers? Well that's one way to deal with the corruption problem.
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The way Russia has been running this war wouldn't you wanna leave the O's alone?
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GD_American posted:The way Russia has been running this war wouldn't you wanna leave the O's alone? All nobles must hang
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Putting that Drone Operator on GiP Rushmore.
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bulletsponge13 posted:Putting that Drone Operator on GiP Rushmore. 💯
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ASAPI posted:Ukraine is hitting Russia hard. I can't imagine how bad it would be to lose an entire command center. Russia didn't even try and float it off to the corner of the map?
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I was thinking about how lovely being like an Admin O or Plan O in the TOC that got taken out. Then I started thinking about all the G5 Plans guys that are going to end defenestrated in Moscow
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Spoggerific posted:Russia didn't even try and float it off to the corner of the map? I'm sad to say I understand this reference.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:So besides nukes, what does Russia care so much about in that wreckage to already do a salvage op? https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/status/1517398931306594306
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Russia going back to the Afghanistan playbook. I'm beginning to think maybe Russia is kind of bad!
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cruft posted:I'm beginning to think maybe Russia is kind of bad! I have no idea if I'm being sarcastic or not.
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cruft posted:I'm beginning to think maybe Russia is kind of bad!  : "Don't be such a child. What, you think this is some kind of battle between 'good' and 'evil' and that the invading Russian soldier is a 'bad' orc that must be killed? As if the United States never booby-trapped children's toys en masse. Besides, those bombs were only going to kill Nazis anyways.What?? You're accusing me of supporting Russia!? I dare you to point out a single example! That's right, you can't." Sorry, I was reading the frenzied responses to M Gargantua's posts in the bad thread and caught a few brain worms that needed expunging. We need a red-brown tankie variant of the smug emoji... combined with the can of worms emoji? And I'm afraid this is going to be a post purely on the meta discussion as I have to recommend the latest I Don't Speak German episode on the recent anti-Ukraine conspiracy mongering of the reactionary, faux-leftist crowd, with specific focus on Jimmy Dore.
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Spoggerific posted:Do blankets count? 
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Spoggerific posted:Do blankets count? I don't know that the historical record supports that story. There's plenty of other genocide to account for against the native Americans.
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A.o.D. posted:I don't know that the historical record supports that story. There's plenty of other genocide to account for against the native Americans.
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A.o.D. posted:... has the US ever booby trapped children's toys like that? Does it count if we just didn't care? 
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A.o.D. posted:I don't know that the historical record supports that story. There's plenty of other genocide to account for against the native Americans. I did a few hours research on this one night. IIRC, it happened once on purpose in the late 18th/early 19th century in PA, and partially misconstrued. I think it was some garrison commander proposing it after an interaction. That's from my faulty memory, so take it as you will. It became propaganda because it seemed right, but most of the outbreaks came from trade with federal troops/garrisons/forts. The First Nations had interactions with the disease prior; it's estimated that between the 'discovery' of the new world, and the era of Manifest Destiny, Small Pox had already wiped entire tribes out through trade and whatnot.
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A.o.D. posted:... has the US ever booby trapped children's toys like that? Closest modern example I can find is our army dropping BLU-43/44s on Vietnam and Laos. Those things are what Russia reverse-engineered for the PFM-1s they been dropping on Ukraine.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Does it count if we just didn't care? I can see a chain of events where a defense contractor and a procurement board insist on a bright, easily visible color to try to reduce UXO casualties from cluster munitions that just happens to have the same chain of decisions made by the guys designing air dropped humanitarian rations, and those two groups never once communicate. These decisions could be made years apart and no one would find out until you had Team America: World Police drop both in the same place because we're a loving joke of a nation. You could also make the argument that it was deliberately malicious and that would play well in all the right circles because it's a convenient narrative. It's still not making mines that look like toy trains level of evil.
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bulletsponge13 posted:I did a few hours research on this one night. If you're thinking about what I think you are that was between a British officer and a couple of Swiss guys.
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A.o.D. posted:I can see a chain of events where a defense contractor and a procurement board insist on a bright, easily visible color to try to reduce UXO casualties from cluster munitions that just happens to have the same chain of decisions made by the guys designing air dropped humanitarian rations, and those two groups never once communicate. These decisions could be made years apart and no one would find out until you had Team America: World Police drop both in the same place because we're a loving joke of a nation. Not in any way minimizing the deliberate crimes being committed by Russia, but how is negligence a good excuse for the US leaving a bunch of children without limbs? At the scale those bombs were dropped and with the public knowledge about UXO risks, at what point do you hold people in charge accountable for continuing to do the same thing and accepting the risks?
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bulletsponge13 posted:I did a few hours research on this one night. There's a good book that covers this among other similar topics; it's titled "1491: The Americas Before Columbus." The long and short of it is that both are true; yes, there were attemps to deliberately spread disease, but also some estimates are that something like 90 to 95% of Native American populations were wiped out by advancing disease waves significantly before European contact, because the diseases spread faster than the Europeans did.
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They changed the HDR packaging, do you think Russia will stop booby trapping children's toys
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Does it count if we just didn't care? Yeah not seeing this in the same universe as putting a grenade in a soccer ball
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Not in any way minimizing the deliberate crimes being committed by Russia, but how is negligence a good excuse for the US leaving a bunch of children without limbs? At the scale those bombs were dropped and with the public knowledge about UXO risks, at what point do you hold people in charge accountable for continuing to do the same thing and accepting the risks? Where do you see me loving excusing this? Seriously.
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isn't that why the food packets changed color very shortly after? unless I'm missing something. they haven't been bomblet color in 20 years or something e: yeah changed in Nov 2001 Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Apr 23, 2022 |
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A.o.D. posted:Where do you see me loving excusing this? Seriously. quote:I can see a chain of events where a defense contractor and a procurement board insist on a bright, easily visible color to try to reduce UXO casualties from cluster munitions that just happens to have the same chain of decisions made by the guys designing air dropped humanitarian rations, and those two groups never once communicate. These decisions could be made years apart and no one would find out until you had Team America: World Police drop both in the same place because we're a loving joke of a nation. The paragraph where you described how these things just happen and who can really blame anyone? Herstory Begins Now posted:isn't that why the food packets changed color very shortly after? unless I'm missing something. they haven't been bomblet color in 20 years or something It was a well known concern after our presence in SE Asia, and it still took a public scandal to consider the risk a few decades later in the GWOT. Again, nowhere near the same level of terrible. But negligence is a bad excuse for dead children. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Apr 23, 2022 |
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