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Presumably Forsaken are hand picked to be super narcissistic and probably don’t want to die themselves.
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Invalid Validation posted:Presumably Forsaken are hand picked to be super narcissistic and probably don’t want to die themselves. That's true for all of them except Ishamael, who was a philosopher who explicitly turned to the Shadow out of a sense of despair over the concept of eternity and wants to break the cycle to allow true death. This is also the Dark One's goal, as much as it can have goals, which is why Ishy/Moridin gets to be Nae'Blis. He's the only one of them that actually gets it. Like Ishy's thought process was 'Reality only has to break once for everything to end while continuing things has to go well every time. Therefore eventually everything will end. Better dedicate my life to having it end now instead of dragging it out.' Zore fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Apr 22, 2022 |
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Apr 22, 2022 15:43
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Zore posted:Balefire isn't a final death. They still get spun out again in the future, it just fucks with the Dark One specifically because he can only catch the souls at the moment of death to do his 'bring back to life' trick and Balefire moves that to a point before its possible to be aware of. I think the most common theory is that even if you did that and broke the pattern, it would only be THIS pattern. It would all still come back later. His belief is that the ONLY way to permanently break the pattern is for the DO to do it.
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Nerd con live https://twitter.com/thedustywheel/status/1517523311135105024?s=20&t=3HWp9rnnM5234ZhUqm07kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuRCh-qWc8M Hexel fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Apr 22, 2022 |
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CainFortea posted:I think the most common theory is that even if you did that and broke the pattern, it would only be THIS pattern. It would all still come back later. His belief is that the ONLY way to permanently break the pattern is for the dragon to do it. Fixed. If the dark one could do it, killing the dragon is an option.
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DarkHorse posted:I love the idea of Elan Morin Tedronai getting so bummed at existence that he resorts to death by number puzzle (seppuku is what you're thinking of) 
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Two 2s on a single line, he is right to feel dishonor
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Here's the bone Judkins tossed to Jordan Con https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uij9rqbSfY Ayoola Smart is Aviendha https://twitter.com/WotTVSeries/status/1517574077442973696?s=20&t=vrCeB7POtBg3kPp8aq1nIg Hexel fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Apr 22, 2022 |
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Apr 22, 2022 19:38
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I noticed Isis Mussenden in that video as well which is  since she gave an interview saying she wasn't on S2 so who da gently caress knows  https://twitter.com/WotTVSeries/status/1517575712051499009?s=20&t=h0eqT_jZ6f1z7baBMtHDYA I guess they got 2 costume designers now
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In that video Judkins also confirmed they are filming Falme He says there's an iconic fight scene going on right around the corner from here that Aviendha is a part of. Ayoola Smart has been training for months learning how to handle spears and do flips n' poo poo and handle veils.
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Hexel posted:I noticed Isis Mussenden in that video as well which is I've been suspecting for a while that they're actually filming s3 now.
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Hexel posted:In that video Judkins also confirmed they are filming Falme What's Aviendha doing at Falme? drat, they really ARE switching things up.
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jng2058 posted:What's Aviendha doing at Falme? drat, they really ARE switching things up. More Aiel and sooner are the only past comments I can recall. Some have noticed that the stunt actors we had video of rehearsing battle scenes and poo poo seemed to have spears and little bucklers so gently caress it why not.
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jng2058 posted:What's Aviendha doing at Falme? drat, they really ARE switching things up. I assume they're merging Falme and Tear.
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Zore posted:I assume they're merging Falme and Tear. I still don't get the how of it but it really feels like that's going to happen, and honestly I'm ok with that. Rand declaring himself Dragon with a kick-rear end sky battle then declaring himself Dragon again by pulling the sword from the stone a season later would feel a bit redundant. Better to make it all one huge event and move into the next phase of the story.
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I mean, he has a sword battle with Ba'alzamon there. Why not have him use Callandor for that and Tam's sword gets blasted away or something? Though my first thought of iconic fight scene was the dance with me Eyeless scene
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I mean, he has a sword battle with Ba'alzamon there. Why not have him use Callandor for that and Tam's sword gets blasted away or something? If we're sticking to the continuity, he needs to take the wound that won't heal at falme when Tam's sword is melted into oblivion. Callandor and the world declaration probably make sense to combine into a single event, its just hard for me to see how moving that item to Falme really makes sense especially given the launching point that the Stone is for the entire EF5. They didn't find the dragon banner with the horn though so we could have a moment where they find that at falme after the big battle needing the horn, and that sets Rand onto the next piece where he won't quite allow it publicly spoken until he can get Callandor. I'm hoping that they just have Rand fight Turak and they save the stone and callandor and maybe even the sky fighting for Tear. On the topic of Semhirage and Demandred for that matter, of course they lose and are undone by obvious villainous egoism. It's a required trait to become a forsaken.
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Guys I’m 90% certain they will not combine Falme/Tear Aviendha in Falme is simply an expanded role of what she does in TGH, hardly a reason to leap to a Falme/Tear combo
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Hexel posted:Guys I’m 90% certain they will not combine Falme/Tear Season 2 is combining books 2 and 3 and uh they sure as hell don't have the budget for both Tear and Falme
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I think if they planned to combine Tear and Falme they would have moved Siuan's home country to Falme. Because she was born in Tear and they still mentioned Tear hating channeling they will probably keep the Stone.
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Mage_Boy posted:I think if they planned to combine Tear and Falme they would have moved Siuan's home country to Falme. Because she was born in Tear and they still mentioned Tear hating channeling they will probably keep the Stone. They could also be focusing more on the "Forsaken took control of a country" aspect of the fight in Tear and kinda skipping that part of Illian. That way the whole "Rand takes an area for prophecy" isn't repeated.
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People are already mad that's shes not white. "Book accuracy"
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Facebook and reddit comments were pretty breathtaking  It’s not my head canon but I’ll reserve judgment for her performance and costuming Nynaeve wasn’t my head canon either and she kills it. Hexel fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Apr 23, 2022 |
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Mage_Boy posted:I think if they planned to combine Tear and Falme they would have moved Siuan's home country to Falme. Because she was born in Tear and they still mentioned Tear hating channeling they will probably keep the Stone. The Stone is shown in the Siuan episode cold open and its also pointed out on the website as being in Tear and never falling to invaders. They've said they will pull some parts of book 1, 2, and 3 into season 2, they never said they will combine entire books so I don't know where anyone is getting this impression. Odds are they're going to expand on the Aiel searching for He Who Comes With The Dawn and push up the meeting between the girls and the Aiel from book 3.
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Hexel posted:Facebook and reddit comments were pretty breathtaking Nynaeve is a standout, which is high praise given the rest of the cast. I feel like the actor really *gets* her.
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That poor girl, even the casting director had to say something https://twitter.com/kvhendry/status/1517603270247731208?s=21&t=IYMRKK13ruol3RLex0aqBg
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Combining falme and tear would be dumb and bad. Aviendha actor looks ok, will reserve judgment.
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I have never been able to picture the Aiel as Irish and get surprised every time it's brought up to me again.
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Hexel posted:Guys I’m 90% certain they will not combine Falme/Tear Aviendha isn't in The Great Hunt. She first appears in The Dragon Reborn when the Wonder Girls run into Aviendha, Bain, Chiad, and Dailin en route from Tar Valon to Tear. Nynaeve heals a wounded Dalin, they split amicably, then the Wondergirls get captured by bandits, and are rescued by an Aiel strikeforce including the aforementioned ABC&D, though Dailin dies during the rescue. I suppose they could do something like instead of Liandrin using the Ways, she sends the Wondergirls to Falme on their own, and along the way they have the ABC&D encounter? I dunno, maybe something like that?
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How are u posted:Combining falme and tear would be dumb and bad. Have u considered if they combine them we get FEAR
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jng2058 posted:Aviendha isn't in The Great Hunt Yeah you right. I was thinking of Rhian, the spear maidens they bump into in Stedding Tsofu. Perrin, Mat and Ingtar meet a lone Aiel by himself in TGH too
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Colonel Cool posted:I have never been able to picture the Aiel as Irish and get surprised every time it's brought up to me again. Yeah, me neither, although I get it from text: The Dragon Reborn posted:The [Aiel] had looked a good deal like Rand, taller than most, with gray eyes and reddish hair, and he had been dressed like the man in the cage, all in browns and grays that would fade into rock or brush, with soft boots laced to his knees. The Dragon Reborn posted:Blue-green eyes and reddish hair cut short except for a narrow tail that hung to her shoulders; soft, laced knee-boots and close-fitting coat and breeches all in the shades of earth and rock. Such coloring and clothing had been described to her once; this woman was Aiel. ...etc, etc.
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The key part of course is that pale skin isn't necessarily part of what identifies Aiel, since everything that sees the sun is going to be extremely tan. It's the hair and eyes that give them away. As usual the "ethics in casting" types don't even know the books they're mad about
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CainsDescendant posted:The key part of course is that pale skin isn't necessarily part of what identifies Aiel, since everything that sees the sun is going to be extremely tan. It's the hair and eyes that give them away. As usual the "ethics in casting" types don't even know the books they're mad about Nah. That’s early yet. Let me skip to the wiki: quote:Jordan has said that he thought it would be fun to have the Aiel as a desert culture but with Irish heritage, thus the Aiel are physically as a people modeled After Irish people this is evident through their pale skin, and light hair and eyes. The Aiel are further connected to the Irish through the Tuatha'an. I mean I don’t give a gently caress, mix them up, but I do think Jordan was pretty clear.
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Just permanently sunburned and covered in skin cancer
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ulmont posted:Nah. That’s early yet. Let me skip to the wiki: That's fair, I mostly remembered descriptions of how intense the Aiel's farmer tans are described as at some points.
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ulmont posted:Nah. That’s early yet. Let me skip to the wiki: Yeah, they're not all redheads, plenty of blondes too. Some dark hair, but that's like how some are short: it's just uncommon. That said, who cares? Aviendha specifically has dark reddish hair in the books, it's not like being super pale is a defining trait like being short is for Moiraine..
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Invalid Validation posted:Presumably Forsaken are hand picked to be super narcissistic and probably don’t want to die themselves. Ishmael is hella narcisstic.
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