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Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

25 years from now, accidentally, as part of something else getting declassified

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Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Excelzior posted:

25 years from now, accidentally, as part of something else getting declassified
Yeah I agree. I reckon it'll be leaked at a time when its absolutely small-fry compared to what's going on, lol.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

remember when at least part of the October surprise theory was proven when someone went through a diplomat's papers after he died

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Hey guys have you seen the new declassified DOD papers on their Hyoid-bone-shattering ray gun? I’m sure it doesn’t have any historical implications, but it sure is funny. The CIA declared the program of limited use and swears they definitely don’t still use them.

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
has the cia ever come out and said "we studied this poo poo in the 60s and HOLY poo poo it's SUPER EFFECTIVE and we use it ALL THE FUCKKEN TIME NOW YEEHAW"

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

Mola Yam posted:

has the cia ever come out and said "we studied this poo poo in the 60s and HOLY poo poo it's SUPER EFFECTIVE and we use it ALL THE FUCKKEN TIME NOW YEEHAW"

the cia isn't familiar with being intentionally effective

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Bulgakov posted:

the cia isn't familiar with being intentionally effective

they succeeded in a lot of ops that really counted (killing jfk, couping iran, turning south and Central America into a bunch of military dictatorships and/or corporately-run states, inventing crack, etc)

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022
Charlie the Unicorn's up to no good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuHz85fnjWY&t=588s

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

beecock

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

Lampsacus posted:

How do you think we'll find out what actually happened to Epstein?

Never. Think of the Kennedy poo poo they're hanging on to 60 years after the fact.

Mola Yam posted:

has the cia ever come out and said "we studied this poo poo in the 60s and HOLY poo poo it's SUPER EFFECTIVE and we use it ALL THE FUCKKEN TIME NOW YEEHAW"

Nope! That's how we know they're not doing it :dumb:

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
sometimes the cia succeeds and sometimes they fail, but either way their actions always make the world worse.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

sometimes the cia succeeds and sometimes they fail, but either way their actions always make the world worse.

don't remember if it was here or somewhere else, but someone once said that the cia's primary strength is not that they're hypercompetent its that when they try to do something they basically get unlimited tries whereas the people they're targeting only need to slip up once for the cia to win

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Azathoth posted:

don't remember if it was here or somewhere else, but someone once said that the cia's primary strength is not that they're hypercompetent its that when they try to do something they basically get unlimited tries whereas the people they're targeting only need to slip up once for the cia to win

someone political

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Azathoth posted:

don't remember if it was here or somewhere else, but someone once said that the cia's primary strength is not that they're hypercompetent its that when they try to do something they basically get unlimited tries whereas the people they're targeting only need to slip up once for the cia to win

they ran out of tries once but then they assassinated the president and got a mulligan

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

found this in a little free library box near me today



wait, what's that in the corner?



quote:

Steele’s book tells the fictional tale of a young man who was born on September 11, 2001 — the same day his father, a firefighter, died in the World Trade Center. As he comes of age, the son begins to question the official story of 9/11 and wages a battle to expose the truth about his father’s murder



pretty excited to dig in



scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

my bony fealty posted:

found this in a little free library box near me today



wait, what's that in the corner?





pretty excited to dig in





the art sucks

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Poser models overlayed with a photoshop filter lookin' rear end comic

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


yes, yes it does. let's the convincing case it lays out for the inside job makes up for it.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Bush knew that his oil billionaire friend was funding terrorists with plans to attack the US. I feel like if anything, the controlled demolition and holographic planes stuff is a distraction from the straightforward conspiracy:

1. Prince Bandar gives $100,000 to hijackers
2. Hijackers do 9/11
3. Bush invites Bandar to the White House on 9/13

lurker2006
Jul 30, 2019
that straightforward conspiracy is an offramp for people who are cynical enough to read through the lines of the official story but do no farther digging. it's ultimately something they can tolerate, the idea of a government coward doing the three monkeys routine but not actually taking any material action, it's like the united 93 flight actually getting shot down for the greater good, a little conspiracy play pool. truth is the plan would not have gone through without domestic agents involved.

lurker2006 has issued a correction as of 05:16 on Apr 24, 2022

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/GhostStoriesEnd/status/1518012922261381123
https://twitter.com/GhostStoriesEnd/status/1518013719464271874

really happy for our boy spreading the Epstein thread mindset outside these dead gay forums

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




i wish bush was omnipotent so he didnt lose to bill rapist clinton
we'd still have welfare and factories

thalweg
Aug 26, 2019

Real hurthling! posted:

we'd still have welfare and factories

lol

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Obama's grandpa is Bush's cousin lol

bonelessdongs
Jul 17, 2019

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Obama's grandpa is Bush's cousin lol

Cool, cool
:cheerdoge:

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Obama's grandpa is Bush's cousin lol

isn't it that they shared a common ancestor in the 1600s or something

would be funny if more recent tho

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



my bony fealty posted:

isn't it that they shared a common ancestor in the 1600s or something

would be funny if more recent tho

that common ancestory? Geoffrey of Epstine

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

my bony fealty posted:

found this in a little free library box near me today



wait, what's that in the corner?





pretty excited to dig in





https://youtu.be/RlcZqWj9-D4

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Shear Modulus posted:

that common ancestory? Geoffrey of Epstine

EPSTINE

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Chamale posted:

Bush knew that his oil billionaire friend was funding terrorists with plans to attack the US. I feel like if anything, the controlled demolition and holographic planes stuff is a distraction from the straightforward conspiracy:

1. Prince Bandar gives $100,000 to hijackers
2. Hijackers do 9/11
3. Bush invites Bandar to the White House on 9/13

You make a good point, but I think there were at least some extra bombs somewhere along the way, particularly re: building 7.

It doesn’t really matter though, what matters is that it happened and people worryingly close to the White House and in the intelligence community knew about it prior.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




anybody have a link to that documentary where they interview the okc bombing witnesses and tear the official story apart?

cagliostr0
Jun 8, 2020

Endman posted:

You make a good point, but I think there were at least some extra bombs somewhere along the way, particularly re: building 7.

It doesn’t really matter though, what matters is that it happened and people worryingly close to the White House and in the intelligence community knew about it prior.

One of life's little mysteries is who did the stock trading in the couple of days before the attack.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

cagliostr0 posted:

One of life's little mysteries is who did the stock trading in the couple of days before the attack.

less mysterious if you look into Glenn tilton

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

cagliostr0 posted:

One of life's little mysteries is who did the stock trading in the couple of days before the attack.

They were taunting us about this by just laying the case wide open in Casino Royale

thalweg
Aug 26, 2019

cagliostr0 posted:

One of life's little mysteries is who did the stock trading in the couple of days before the attack.

Not to worry, Snopes has assured me this is becsuse of a coincidental stock trading newsletter that got sent out to some subscribers a few days prior :)

cagliostr0
Jun 8, 2020

thalweg posted:

Not to worry, Snopes has assured me this is becsuse of a coincidental stock trading newsletter that got sent out to some subscribers a few days prior :)

It's kinda amazing how hard it is to find info on Hunter Biden's time at Rosemont Seneca. No matter what you search for if you include hunter's name you get insane lying screeds from fact checkers.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Are fact checkers now being so prominent (and dumb) a direct result of the whole "fake news" thing?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Are fact checkers now being so prominent (and dumb) a direct result of the whole "fake news" thing?

it's partly that, and partly because of the adoption of "fact checking" as a sort of non-political political attack

if a politician says a lie, and a fact-checker fact-checks them, then the politician is, shall we say, discredited

the implication is that "this person is bad", and "do not trust anything else this person might say in the future", but without necessarily having to argue against the merits of what was said, or the ideology espoused by the person - you just have to catch them in a lie

you get to attack Trump by saying he's lied a gorillion times, without having to address what it was he lied about, or that he's a conservative, or that he's a capitalist, or any of that other stuff, just that he lied, and you don't have to necessarily offer a better way, either, just point out that he's lying

this method of doing politics without really doing politics, of criticizing without developing a criticism, has become so addictive to the media class that we do end up in this place where the "fact-checkers" look for any kind of way to make it seem like someone is telling a lie, even when they're not, purely for the sake of attaching their picture underneath a headline that reads "FACT-CHECK:"

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Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

the fact checkers also bold face lie themselves to muddy the waters

they claim 'mixture' 'half true' 'unclear' etc on indisputably factually true things that make their guy look bad

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