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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Barry Foster posted:

Why, exactly, was it 'proper psycho chat'?

you're the one that said gently caress off, think the onus is on you.

But things like:

journos just got bored because the novelty wore off or if they thought bad morale would hurt sales but it very quickly moved to the current "No it's just old people who'll die, you don't want 'them' to win by being forced to stay at home, do you?

is nuts.

as is:

the beginning of a different world. It was squashed as relentlessly and ruthlessly as Jeremy Corbyn was.

and frankly when we're talking about deaths and people's losses and things like that its really wank to read these weird fanfic versions of reality that bear no resemblance to actual reality. its just embarrassing.

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

NotJustANumber99 posted:

you're the one that said gently caress off, think the onus is on you.

But things like:

journos just got bored because the novelty wore off or if they thought bad morale would hurt sales but it very quickly moved to the current "No it's just old people who'll die, you don't want 'them' to win by being forced to stay at home, do you?

is nuts.

as is:

the beginning of a different world. It was squashed as relentlessly and ruthlessly as Jeremy Corbyn was.

and frankly when we're talking about deaths and people's losses and things like that its really wank to read these weird fanfic versions of reality that bear no resemblance to actual reality. its just embarrassing.

You must be new to the United Kingdom Marxist Thread

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Barry Foster posted:

You must be new to the United Kingdom Marxist Thread

you are

sorry i called you a psycho

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

NotJustANumber99 posted:

you are

sorry i called you a psycho

I'm not sure I understand - I'm not new to this thread?

But thanks, honestly

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Imagine if the Corbsta had been the one sharing a platform with an undesirable, it would have been headline news for months:

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/SoozUK/status/1517530813260349441

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Before you post again in this thread I would suggest you reread the subforum rules. This isn't the chat thread and you have added absolutely nothing to the discussion in any UKMT thread you've posted in.

You don't seem to have picked up that the hostility toward you in here is not matey bants like it is in other subs.

E: Alright, that was harsh, edited. I don't have anything against you personally. But seriously man, if you don't want to post in a constructive way that's at least approaching respectful to other posters, this is not the thread for you.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Apr 23, 2022

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


It's possible to still recognise that Covid is still a serious thing whilst not being scared of it on a personal level.

I'm not scared of Covid in the same way I'm not scared of car accidents. I know I'm probably going to be involved in a car accident at some point, and that they are potentially fatal, & I take reasonable precautions to avoid them, but we're not gonna have a car free society any time soon & I'm unlikely to get killed or seriously injured from one so I don't let it bother me.

The Government's attitude wrt Covid loving sucks balls, but considering I teach for a living & have a child in nursery the healthiest thing seems to be to just wear a mask where appropriate & take a LFT before visiting anyone who's clinically vulnerable, rather than drive myself mad. I'd also like to do poo poo like see live music & go to the theatre literally ever again, & it looks like the only way that's gonna happen is if I just mentally accept the risk, it's not as if there's not already a big risk attached to most fun stuff

kyojin
Jun 15, 2005

I MASHED THE KEYS AND LOOK WHAT I MADE
I've discovered this amazing system where I do whatever I want to do but I just wear a proper mask in indoor public spaces. I guess I've worn glasses for years tho so I don't have to write effort posts weeping for my dramatically reduced quality of life as a consequence of having something on my face

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Saying "I don't care if you die if you're not wearing an N95" is a hosed up thing to say. And i would expect better from the people in this thread.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


kyojin posted:

I've discovered this amazing system where I do whatever I want to do but I just wear a proper mask in indoor public spaces. I guess I've worn glasses for years tho so I don't have to write effort posts weeping for my dramatically reduced quality of life as a consequence of having something on my face
See that doesn't quite work for me, I sometimes like to put stuff in my face hole or touch it against consenting adults

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Borrovan posted:

It's possible to still recognise that Covid is still a serious thing whilst not being scared of it on a personal level.

I'm not scared of Covid in the same way I'm not scared of car accidents. I know I'm probably going to be involved in a car accident at some point, and that they are potentially fatal, & I take reasonable precautions to avoid them, but we're not gonna have a car free society any time soon & I'm unlikely to get killed or seriously injured from one so I don't let it bother me.

The Government's attitude wrt Covid loving sucks balls, but considering I teach for a living & have a child in nursery the healthiest thing seems to be to just wear a mask where appropriate & take a LFT before visiting anyone who's clinically vulnerable, rather than drive myself mad. I'd also like to do poo poo like see live music & go to the theatre literally ever again, & it looks like the only way that's gonna happen is if I just mentally accept the risk, it's not as if there's not already a big risk attached to most fun stuff

Your point about car accidents touches on something I was going to say. Riding in a car has risks. We accept those risks because it’s worth it. But we also wear seat belts and try to mitigate those risks. To me that’s kind of what mask wearing is although masks benefit others more than seat belts do. There is a middle ground between staying indoors and isolating entirely and going around licking door knobs.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Mega Comrade posted:

Saying "I don't care if you die if you're not wearing an N95" is a hosed up thing to say. And i would expect better from the people in this thread.

Goons get weird sometimes.

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Borrovan posted:

See that doesn't quite work for me, I sometimes like to put stuff in my face hole or touch it against consenting adults

I just do the former outside and don't treat the latter as a group activity, though I'm not trying to kink-shame

Morningwoodpecker
Jan 17, 2016

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE THIS STUPID

BUT HERE YOU ARE

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I remember very early on in the pandemic quite a few articles about young, gymgoing people being put on ventilators and almost dying, but they tailed off as it got more widespread. Don't know if journos just got bored because the novelty wore off or if they thought bad morale would hurt sales but it very quickly moved to the current "No it's just old people who'll die, you don't want 'them' to win by being forced to stay at home, do you? "

It's fascinating looking at the messaging that was going round at the start of the pandemic and comparing it to now. Simple things like recommending wearing gloves / washing your hands, the articles about young people getting sick, the sense of society coming together to survive this.

Maybe that's why it all changed, Thatcher's ghost couldn't stand the idea of being proved wrong about society existing or even being possible, so the legion of ministers who grew up cranking their hogs to her speeches had to destroy any sense of community in the British corpus before it started unionising or asking awkward questions.

Early on we were told masks don't work purely because they'd messed up with the pandemic stockpile against advice. Then it was switched to mandatory(ish). Every lockdown we've had was announced weeks too late to be effective.

They only started following advice when we topped the casualty list and Johnson infected himself by shaking hands with covid patients on the telly whilst trying to prove it wasn't a big problem. Now they're dropping pretty much everything whilst cases are up and hospitals are struggling because the PM pissed away his moral authority partying.

The messaging has always been about what's easiest and cheapest for them, taking credit for things other organisations did like the vaccine drive and slamming the stable door shut to make it easier to deny responsibility for their obvious mistakes.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


blunt posted:

, though I'm not trying to kink-shame
so don't :colbert:

e: for clarity this post was not entirely, 100% sincere, and was what we in the "biz" (business) call a "joke"

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Apr 23, 2022

blunt
Jul 7, 2005


Discussing different covid strategies isn't kink shaming, lighten up.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Many different people lining up to tell Andy Burnham why they love spending nearly £400 to get the train from Manchester to London. lol what an absolute pisstake

https://twitter.com/AndyBurnhamGM/status/1517786367807221760?t=iYI44Tu1GDcJm5nOm2pTFw&s=19

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I still struggle to believe that Harry Cole is 35

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1517439275318628353

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Morningwoodpecker posted:


The messaging has always been about what's easiest and cheapest for them

At first people found "let the bodies pile high" shocking, but if a message is repeated often enough, many people will find it a relief to align themselves with it. (See also: Corbyn.)

It's not as if UKMT readers get the Daily Mail; it seems there's no way of preventing the message getting into your head via other people, short of solitary confinement. We need to develop mental resistance techniques.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Morningwoodpecker posted:

The messaging has always been about what's easiest and cheapest for them
I hope that the six figure sum of people they condemned to death (and countless more injured) in the name of political expediency is rubbed in their faces forever every time they push for another ill-judged prohibition in the name of tuf on crim or the half a dozen hypothetical people it might save.

It won't be though, because :decorum: (and because the kieth faction thinks they don't go far enough)

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Oh dear me posted:

We need to develop mental resistance techniques.

This is what I call my general proclivity for being obstinate and confrontational.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Oh dear me posted:

At first people found "let the bodies pile high" shocking, but if a message is repeated often enough, many people will find it a relief to align themselves with it. (See also: Corbyn.)

It's not as if UKMT readers get the Daily Mail; it seems there's no way of preventing the message getting into your head via other people, short of solitary confinement. We need to develop mental resistance techniques.

loving this

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The Old Arran Ferry Doesn't Come By Here Much Anymore


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDr62lcJzg&t=17s

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Happy St George's day. The one day in the year you tans can say you're English and not be arrested and thrown in jail.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Oh is that today?

I hope nobody decides to try and make it into a proper national day, I like not having a national day.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
In the proudest of national traditions, we should steal Niels Ebbesen Day before the Danes declare it theirs.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Graun doing rehab work for the landlord classes again.

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1517805522614988800?t=D_AKdvTI1-Pt1DDGx-r4DQ


A Nice Landlord posted:

“The first properties (prior to 2014) were bought purely for investment,” she says. “I was working full-time within the social housing sector, so I was doing my bit. But even then, I was determined that my rents would be affordable. The properties acquired after 2014 were bought with the full intention of creating a portfolio of affordable homes so I could support others and be a good landlord.”

Oyedele, who is the vice-president of the Chartered Institute of Housing, says: “I remember that feeling when I eventually got a council flat. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. It was in a grotty block with two bedrooms but I could shut the door and it was mine.”

She keeps the rents on her nine properties as low as possible. “I’ve never charged market rates,” Oyedele says. “It’s not fair on people. If I don’t need the money and can make an OK profit and be kind to other people [that’s good enough].”

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
'We’re not all terrible': the National Socialists who established free healthcare for ethnic Germans

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


landlords thinking "we're only mostly terrible" front & centre in a headline somehow makes them look not terrible

also they should publish proportionately about the other 99.9998% of landlords, for balance

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

In the proudest of national traditions, we should steal Niels Ebbesen Day before the Danes declare it theirs.



Every day is our national day. :britain: :denmark:

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
lol @ all the countries celebrating independence while spain celebrates the day they started colonialism

though to be fair i wouldn't put it past britain to do the same given the chance

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

she's really good but the scary thing is how she doesn't have to stretch reality that much lol

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/shornkoomins/status/1517559689973805058

Morningwoodpecker
Jan 17, 2016

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE THIS STUPID

BUT HERE YOU ARE

Oh dear me posted:

At first people found "let the bodies pile high" shocking, but if a message is repeated often enough, many people will find it a relief to align themselves with it. (See also: Corbyn.)

It's not as if UKMT readers get the Daily Mail; it seems there's no way of preventing the message getting into your head via other people, short of solitary confinement. We need to develop mental resistance techniques.

It can be insidious. Just seeing the headlines everyday at a garage forecourt/shop counter or as you scroll past to read more reputable news is enough to have an effect over time.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2EwvmpFC1Fo&t=15s

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Morningwoodpecker posted:

It can be insidious. Just seeing the headlines everyday at a garage forecourt/shop counter or as you scroll past to read more reputable news is enough to have an effect over time.

This is why I am quite serious and quite literal when I say that we live in an abusive society. Quite apart from the material privations that it inflicts on the great majority of us, all of us - even the bourgeoisie - are being gas lit constantly

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
DIANA MEDIUM CLAIMS MADDIE STOLEN BY GYPSIES TO CLEAN SMALL MACHINE PARTS

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

lol @ all the countries celebrating independence while spain celebrates the day they started colonialism

though to be fair i wouldn't put it past britain to do the same given the chance
Just reminded me that it is Blossom Day today, which is a better kind of day than playing nationalist pokemon with the liturgical calendar.

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