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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Graham Allison put out a new Sino-US competition presentation. He is one of the few scholars that still value data and stats in his study.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKSJYlHHORE

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Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


indigi posted:

do weeaboos take any particular stand on contemporary Japanese politics? I was imagining Americans who are just really into the aesthetics

we know what the correct take is "Death to the imperialist Yamato"

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
China’s navy puts 2 more advanced Type 055 destroyers into service in push for blue-water fleet


quote:

The Chinese navy has put two more of one of the world’s most powerful destroyers into service, taking to five the number confirmed as commissioned in the last two years as part of China’s plans to create a blue-water navy.

There was no formal announcement of the commissioning of the Anshan and Wuxi but the Type 055 guided-missile destroyers were reported to have taken part in a night firing and search and rescue exercise with their sister ship the Lhasa, state broadcaster CCTV reported on Thursday.

No announcement, but looks like two more Type 055 destroyers are now in active operation.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009


there was a moment I realized a knew like a dozen catholics in china but I guess statistically they're like half a percent of the pop? I grew up catholic so I was like hmmm are they tryin to rope me back in

edit: estimates are 0.5% to 1% ok I guess. Google says there's 80 million protestants in China while 140 million in USA. I think protestants are makin that number up on both counts, way too high. that's like "have you ever been to church? just on christmas in 1994? OK you're protestant then" #s

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 20:10 on Apr 22, 2022

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

the bitcoin of weed posted:

the reason he's being executed (murdered a chinese woman he was dating) seems important enough to be headline worthy but what do I know


also lol at this quote from an unsourced amnesty international page

Good thing American cop murders don't count as State executions or else we'd imprison and kill more people a year than China

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

As a foreigner you are either insanely anti-china (likely) or insanely pro china (unlikely but possible, see this thread), or you lived there and your opinions are more tepid

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

back in the US people occasionally say some really strong anti-china poo poo around me and then I look at them and blink and they go "oh yeah you used to live there right?" but if I say anything tepid they look at me like I'm brainwashed. I had a coworker disregard me as "probably a spy" cause I said it's not China trying to take over the world, America is the one instigating or inserting itself into every armed conflict on the planet

Danann
Aug 4, 2013


:xickos:

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Antonymous posted:

As a foreigner you are either insanely anti-china (likely) or insanely pro china (unlikely but possible, see this thread), or you lived there and your opinions are more tepid

wait are your saying a country of a billion and a half people has both good and bad things?!

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Al-Saqr posted:

America is 1000% planning to Coup the solomon islands:-

https://twitter.com/AnnaPowles/status/1517411489405349888?s=20&t=uPnwYks9ifu-bVlF25xWXw

Remember, these are the same people who claim any country can join any defensive pact they want and shouldnt face consequences.
[Eurasia] Democracy Strengthening Initiatives

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your Dengers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007
https://twitter.com/chenweihua/status/1517608772847423490?s=21&t=w8nu5IQGl4IvQTUyVtS8Rw

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




another victim

indigi
Jul 20, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 18 hours!

Antonymous posted:

back in the US people occasionally say some really strong anti-china poo poo around me and then I look at them and blink and they go "oh yeah you used to live there right?" but if I say anything tepid they look at me like I'm brainwashed. I had a coworker disregard me as "probably a spy" cause I said it's not China trying to take over the world, America is the one instigating or inserting itself into every armed conflict on the planet

it may a product of the highly sinophobic times in America but I’d characterize your China takes as generally pretty positive, tepid seems to be underselling it. but I’m judging them against “2 million dead Uighur” takes so comparatively you pretty much are Chen Weihua

Rutibex posted:

wait are your saying a country of a billion and a half people has both good and bad things?!

from what I can tell it’s a 7:3 ratio

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/Anne_MarieBrady/status/1517642324268007433
https://mobile.twitter.com/Anne_MarieBrady/status/1517646056682569730

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/DRechts/status/1517527774847635457

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReinShaun/status/1517609688786817025

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Expedite Solomon Island Color Revolution, more like.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

infinite money for everyone but americans

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/niubi/status/1517529156220764163

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Thank God we have leaders who don't stay silent, but instead tell everyone everything is fine, just step over the corpses

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012


Wait when did the Solomons join NATO again?

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
State capitalist bureaucracy is still capitalist bureaucracy.

As for Imperial China, I've spent more time studying the details of Chinese Imperial bureaucracy than modern Western ones (despite working in a very typical, possibly even archetypal, Western bureaucracy) and it's not only a separate lineage I'd be pretty dubious about talking about them as the same kinds of things. Like we use that term in English, but it's not a contiguous tradition and the differences are more substantial than the similarities. I don't think it's quite at the level of being an actively bad translation if you're talking broadly but if you're trying to have any insight into the details of how bureaucracies function it will lead you astray. It's a "bureaucracy" in the sense that it's a governing alternative to aristocratic or feudal governance, but the similarities start to fray rather quickly.

James TC Liu's Reform In Sung China is mostly about Wang An Shi but it's impossible to talk about Wang An Shi without a lot of detail about the Imperial government, and I think it's a particularly useful insight as the reforms he made could be argued as a significant shift in Imperial China toward the capitalist mode of production (note the "toward" there - I'd still say China was pretty proto-capitalist for the next several hundred years, but if you look at the before & after in that book you can see a startling difference and just how incredibly alien the pre-reforms government was).

I'm not sure what other bureaucracies you might be referring to - obviously there's non-bureaucratic and pseudo-bureaucratic administration going back to prehistory, but the contemporary lineage of bureaucracy in most histories I've read is either dated to the French Revolution or American and German rail companies.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

HiroProtagonist posted:

State capitalist bureaucracy is still capitalist bureaucracy.

As for Imperial China, I've spent more time studying the details of Chinese Imperial bureaucracy than modern Western ones (despite working in a very typical, possibly even archetypal, Western bureaucracy) and it's not only a separate lineage I'd be pretty dubious about talking about them as the same kinds of things. Like we use that term in English, but it's not a contiguous tradition and the differences are more substantial than the similarities. I don't think it's quite at the level of being an actively bad translation if you're talking broadly but if you're trying to have any insight into the details of how bureaucracies function it will lead you astray. It's a "bureaucracy" in the sense that it's a governing alternative to aristocratic or feudal governance, but the similarities start to fray rather quickly.

James TC Liu's Reform In Sung China is mostly about Wang An Shi but it's impossible to talk about Wang An Shi without a lot of detail about the Imperial government, and I think it's a particularly useful insight as the reforms he made could be argued as a significant shift in Imperial China toward the capitalist mode of production (note the "toward" there - I'd still say China was pretty proto-capitalist for the next several hundred years, but if you look at the before & after in that book you can see a startling difference and just how incredibly alien the pre-reforms government was).

I'm not sure what other bureaucracies you might be referring to - obviously there's non-bureaucratic and pseudo-bureaucratic administration going back to prehistory, but the contemporary lineage of bureaucracy in most histories I've read is either dated to the French Revolution or American and German rail companies.

who are you addressing this to

Weka
May 5, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 26 minutes!
I'm like 10 pages back but...

30.5 Days posted:

gently caress you we discovered the metal we get to decide how it's spelled

You dunderhead, you boob!
"The discovery of aluminium was announced in 1825 by Danish physicist Hans Christian Ørsted. The first industrial production of aluminium was initiated by French chemist Henri Étienne Sainte-Claire Deville in 1856."
The same guy, a Brit, coined both aluminium and aluminum. Typical peanut brained American exceptionalism. (:

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

A big flaming stink posted:

who are you addressing this to

Winnie the pooh

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Not an important story, but a fun one to speculate about with global supply chains and the war thing going on.

https://www.unian.net/war/rukovodst...u-11797413.html

A large chemical plant in Odessa put 2000 workers on leave without pay. The plant director paid out himself and two of his pals about $230K USD bonus around the same time.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Lostconfused posted:

Not an important story, but a fun one to speculate about with global supply chains and the war thing going on.

https://www.unian.net/war/rukovodst...u-11797413.html

A large chemical plant in Odessa put 2000 workers on leave without pay. The plant director paid out himself and two of his pals about $230K USD bonus around the same time.

another chemical plant in russia went up in flames
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10740579/Huge-blaze-sweeps-Russias-biggest-chemical-plant-hours-7-killed-weapon-centre-fire.html

its gonna be a really lean harvest this year if no one is making chemical fertilizers :ohdear:

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Looks like they were already running a skeleton crew because of gas prices and almost completely shutdown last month.

https://www.fertilizerdaily.com/20210929-odessa-port-plant-suspends-its-production-due-to-high-gas-prices/

https://www.fertilizerdaily.com/20220302-odessa-port-plant-stopped-its-operation/

The new news is the leaked document where the accountant was ordered to pay out to management.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1517877212397060097?t=YUKRc_ukFJlm8svs8BtTsg&s=19

🤣🤣🤣

THS2
Oct 2, 2021

good luck with that

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

A big flaming stink posted:

who are you addressing this to

thats a good question i'd like to ask the op too

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Articles that will actually get you censored or oppressed in China.

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor



many people are saying this

OK baizuo
Mar 19, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

mawarannahr posted:

pro prc laowai

What ever happened to that guy

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://i.imgur.com/BIPZe2z.mp4

right click for sound

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

no

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

a recommendation of books from xi

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Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

what a loving nerd

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