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HIJK posted:I think that kind of approach requires more gumption than Yeerks are capable of when dealing with a relatively sophisticated and hostile species as Yeerks. Oh yeah, this whole supposition relies on "But what if the Yeerks were smart", and as we've seen over the course of going into 47 books now... they are anything but.
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Epicurius posted:The one problem with the Yeerks playing the long game, from the Yeerk perspective, is that they're in the middle of a war with an enemy that wants to wipe them out. The Yeerks are suffering from a massive host shortage now, and they're worried that at any time, the Andalites can discover Earth and the Yeerk presence on Earth, and wipe them out or wipe humanity out. So time is their enemy here. They have to get Earth Yeerk controlled and defended ASAP. Publically revealing themselves and hoping they can get enough people who would voluntarily agree to get a Yeerk implanted in their head is pretty risky, because it requires them to assume 1. There are no Andalites on earth undercover, 2. Humanity won't consider them a threat and wipe them out, and 3. They'll actually be able to convince people to put Yeerks in their heads. Really the two safest plans are Visser One's or Visser Three's. Either you do this entirely through innocent looking front organizations that shuffle people into an infestation path, or you do a massive surprise attack to wipe out human resistance and force people into the pools and hope you can do it fast enough so that it's done before the Andalites find you. While they have some real boneheaded decisions from people, it would require an actually pretty solid level of understanding of humans and human societies that, frankly, are just as alien to Yeerks as they are to us. To add onto that, there's no such thing as "society," "family," or even "civilian" really in the Yeerk Empire. All the non-combatant are on the home world. If you're out here, from the Andalite perspective, you're an existential threat. It likely makes you a bit jumpy for quicker answers. The idea of having leisure enough to be bored of relaxation and needing someone else to straighten out your life was a revelation that Visser One took years to crack, and by all accounts, she's basically a genius.
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# ? Apr 22, 2022 23:29 |
People would absolutely ally up with the Yeerks for the ability to turn Dracon beams and starships against people they hated. Hell, you could probably get some kind of dystopia going where people knowingly sell other humans as host in exchange for Dracon beams. Make your own historical analogies kids!
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Chapter 16-Aximiliquote:“Look, son, I just want to try and help you. But I can’t help you if you don’t talk to me.” That is quite simple. And Ax only thought of it because they stopped giving him cookies. Chapter 17-Tobias quote:I felt it enter my ear. So, if people were wondering why the visser were here for the ceremony, this is why.
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This infestation could have been an E-mail.
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# ? Apr 23, 2022 03:04 |
So in this timeline, Ax likes cookies, not cinnabon. Truly a hosed up situation.
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Chapter 18-Jakequote:“Look, Tom, it’s just not me, okay?” I can imagine Tom was serious. This is really bad for the Yeerks. Chapter 19-Jake quote:Wherever Tom was going he’d have to take my mom’s car. He wasn’t thinking clearly if he thought I could cover for that. My dad wasn’t home yet and when he got home he’d see my mom’s car was out. How was I supposed to explain that? They're probably at this point, not going to be able to get Ax, but they can neutralize the news crew, at least, and try to minimize the damage.
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Applegate posted:Who owned handguns? Criminals. Pathetic people who thought it would make them important. Nuts.
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Tree Bucket posted:I can't believe Jake hates democracy and freedom Jake hates handguns specifically but he's super into assault rifles to arm the proletariat
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# ? Apr 24, 2022 21:35 |
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Remalle posted:Jake hates handguns specifically but he's super into assault rifles to arm the proletariat The AR-15morphs.
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# ? Apr 24, 2022 21:51 |
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Tree Bucket posted:I can't believe Jake hates democracy and freedom quote:“Hey, Mom, what’s up?” I said. Well, maybe if KA's beloved DUMMYCRATS weren't in the dang WHITE HOUSE, am I right?! Also I don't know what speed limits are like in the US but in my neck of the woods "three times" the speed limit of a suburban street would be 150km/h. That's one hell of a minivan.
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# ? Apr 24, 2022 23:56 |
freebooter posted:Well, maybe if KA's beloved DUMMYCRATS weren't in the dang WHITE HOUSE, am I right?! tom has been rebuilding the old 350 in his spare time
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Neighborhood speed limits in the US are almost always 25mph, so 3x puts him at 75mph (120kph) which a minivan can do easy. Jake hating guns is pretty rich for a guy packing unlicensed tiger DNA.
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Sorry. More Animorphs tomorrow.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:Neighborhood speed limits in the US are almost always 25mph, so 3x puts him at 75mph (120kph) which a minivan can do easy. Still a hell of a thing to blast past your house while you're having a beer on the porch in the evening!
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# ? Apr 25, 2022 10:01 |
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In my head canon he hits Chapman's mailbox.
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Chapter 20 - Cassie Day Thirty-Three quote:Jake wouldn’t talk in my house. He was too jumpy. So we went out to the barn. So Cassie knows....something, even though she doesn't know what she knows or how she knows it. Chapter 21-Cassie quote:“There’s something wrong,” I said. I mean, even though its different circumstances, except for Tobias, they've still all come together.
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I think that Stephen King-ing this one into them having always meant to be together because of ~*~fate~*~ or whatever is less interesting than just a one-off glimpse at how hosed they (and maybe Earth) would be if they'd never become the Animorphs. Which would in turn be kind of nice because it's evidence that they are actually making a difference. Sucks for them that in this timeline they have to Hardy Boys their way through it without even getting superpowers, though. edit - wait, I don't remember how this one ends up playing out, but since it started with Crayak, Cassie's visions etc must be the Ellimist trying to counter it, right?
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freebooter posted:edit - wait, I don't remember how this one ends up playing out, but since it started with Crayak, Cassie's visions etc must be the Ellimist trying to counter it, right? Spoilers for the rest of the book. The Ellimist isn't trying to counter it, he already has. The whole reason Cassie's on the team at all is because she's a weird metaphysical anchor, and if you change the timeline around her too much, her presence eventually breaks your changes. The Drode throws a fit about this later on. "Hey, but why didn't that happen in the last Megamorphs?" Good question. My guess has always been that the changed timeline in MM3 was only a thing for a few hours in absolute terms, not weeks, so this didn't come into play in that small amount of time. There are a few other possible hypotheses, too. But the real answer is almost certainly "Because KAA hadn't thought this part up back then."
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I mean, plus, one reason they're all together is that Jake and Marco are best friends, Rachel and Cassie are best friends, Cassie has a crush on Jake, and Jake and Rachel are first cousins who live in the same town. So they're already in a situation where it's natural for them to hang out together, Elfangor or no Elfangor. The only one who isn't part of that natural grouping is Tobias.
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quote:“Chapman? Chapman Chapman? Our Chapman?” This is a masterpiece.
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Epicurius posted:I mean, plus, one reason they're all together is that Jake and Marco are best friends, Rachel and Cassie are best friends, Cassie has a crush on Jake, and Jake and Rachel are first cousins who live in the same town. So they're already in a situation where it's natural for them to hang out together, Elfangor or no Elfangor. The only one who isn't part of that natural grouping is Tobias. the alternate timeline where Rachel lives with her dad and Jake's annoying cousin Saddler (RIP) becomes an animorph
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:the alternate timeline where Rachel lives with her dad and Jake's annoying cousin Saddler (RIP) becomes an animorph I'm down for it.
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disaster pastor posted:Spoilers for the rest of the book. That definitely has Stephen King vibes. Especially (11/22/63 spoilers) in his book where a time traveller goes back to stop the Kennedy assassination, is ultimately successful, but returns to the present to find the world is being ripped apart by "timequakes" and the secret regulators of time confront him and make him undo it because you can't mess with time, it tears reality apart. Boring! Give me the material unforeseen consequences of trying to change history, not the mumbo jumbo metaphysical stuff!
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# ? Apr 26, 2022 21:19 |
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New chapters are coming tomorrow, I promise. I apologize for the last week. My mom died last Tuesday, and between planning the funeral,, sorting her stuff, and then dealing with family stuff, I don't always get on here until late, and when I do, I'm usually ready to go to bed. So, this has slipped a little. The funeral was yesterday, though, and starting tomorrow, I should be on a more regular posting routine. Thanks for understanding.
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# ? Apr 27, 2022 04:25 |
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take as much time as you need the thread will be here whenever, you've been a champ so far
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# ? Apr 27, 2022 04:31 |
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Sorry to hear that. Take care of yourself, this can definitely wait! Whether it's time with family to grieve together or time with friends or by yourself to get away from it and decompress, do that and don't worry about Animorphs. We'll still be here whenever you're ready.
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# ? Apr 27, 2022 04:44 |
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Really sorry to hear that. Thanks for the thread, take all the time you need.
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# ? Apr 27, 2022 05:40 |
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I'm really sorry man. Take as long as you need, even put it on hiatus for a while, you've been posting this almost daily for like two years now.
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Sorry to hear, Epicurius. Take as much time as you need.
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# ? Apr 27, 2022 12:51 |
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Very sorry to hear it. The thread will be fine while you take your time.
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# ? Apr 27, 2022 16:22 |
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no pressure at all Epi, condolences. keep yourself safe and have a nice day at the beach not morphing or thinking about yeerks.
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# ? Apr 28, 2022 03:20 |
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Real life obligations always come first. I'm really sorry that you lost your mom.
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I'm so sorry Epicurius. Come back whenever it works for you, long or short.
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You take your time and do what you need to do. Best wishes from all of us.
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Ok, thanks for indulging me. Chapter 22 - Tobias Day Thirty-Four quote:I was helpless. Powerless. Unable to move an eye. Unable to lift a finger. Unable to speak. Unable to alter a facial expression. To smile. Frown. Give any sign that I was alive within my own body, a captive inside my own brain. Chapter 23-Jake Day Forty quote:t was almost impossible following Tom. We tried, but he could drive, and none of us could. Marco and I searched his room when he was out. Rachel to the rescue, basically.
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# ? Apr 29, 2022 03:02 |
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First up, poor Tobias. Can't catch a break in any dimension. Also, it's still... a little weird that Jake is very aware of Rachel's appearance.
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Capfalcon posted:First up, poor Tobias. Can't catch a break in any dimension. California is.... kind of in the South
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Chapter 24-Rachelquote:Torn was down. Someone was running from the car. Someone big. There goes Marco, sadly. Also, I suppose they did some damage to the bug fighter. Chapter 25-Aximili Day Fourty-One quote:Videotapes of the Bug fighter were shown on TV. Endlessly. I watched in a portion of a large establishment called a Circuit City. Circuit City was devoted to archaic electronic devices: computers, videodiscs, music players. This is a good chapter for estimates of Yeerk numbers. Also, we see sort of the attitude "Oh, the Yeerks are advanced. They must be peaceful and friendly".
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Oh wow this is just terrifying. It really does a lot to make it seem like theyb are winning meaningful battles in the main timeline by showing how BAD things would be without the pressure of the andalite bandits on them.
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