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Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
It just tells you what's safe and unsafe for consumption, what to believe or not to believe. We fact-checked Epstein's suicide, and he definitely killed himself!

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Danger
Jan 4, 2004

all desire - the thirst for oil, war, religious salvation - needs to be understood according to what he calls 'the demonogrammatical decoding of the Earth's body'

Real hurthling! posted:

anybody have a link to that documentary where they interview the okc bombing witnesses and tear the official story apart?

you’re probably thinking of A Noble Lie made in partnership with our friend Wendy.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/MakeItRayn_/status/1517978411863580672

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Danger posted:

you’re probably thinking of A Noble Lie made in partnership with our friend Wendy.

cool

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

They use his photo for this kind of poo poo all the time, it's disgusting

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Hot Karl Marx posted:

They use his photo for this kind of poo poo all the time, it's disgusting

you sign away use of your likeness for propaganda purposes when you join

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



both the army and the nfl

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Futanari Damacy posted:

It just tells you what's safe and unsafe for consumption, what to believe or not to believe. We fact-checked Epstein's suicide, and he definitely killed himself!

but the fact checkers do their own investigative journalism to confirm their conclusions, right? surely they don’t just serve up reheated results from others? :yayclod:

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



The peak of Fact Checking was when in the 2020 primary the fact check rear end in a top hat at washington post said that bernie's claim that the three richest families in america own more wealth than the bottom 50 percent was "half true" or something, because he was 100% correct on the facts, but a lot of the bottom half are so poor that they have zero or negative wealth.

liberals were so in love with fact checking and think it's an automatic win so much that i remember in at least one of the 2016 debates hillary declined to challenge any of trump's bullshit and instead told everyone to go look at the fact checkers after the debate

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
Fact-checking is part of an obsession with The Rules, specifically the idea that adhering fastidiously to a rules-based order will protect us from chaos (it doesn't).

I will use D&D as an example because it's perfect- there is an obsession with correctness, but with following correct procedure rather than accomplishing a correct outcome. Whatever outcome the rules actually dictate is not important to them as far as whether it creates suffering or if the problem is solved- these are the people who supported the war in Iraq until it was revealed there were no WMDs- from that point they were against it, only because the United States was no longer following the rules.

Student loan forgiveness- sorry! The rules say that these people have to live in poverty and have their opportunities permanently foreclosed until all that money is paid back. A correct outcome would be to forgive the debt and allow them to regain their financial autonomy; but the correct procedure according to the rules dictates they must live out their lives in privation, so no deal.

Trump was upsetting to them because he broke conventions and rules consistently, showing of how little restraint they actually are upon someone without the worship and respect for the same set of rules they have. Likewise, Bernie was upsetting because he threatened to use power for objective good rather than to simply enforce the rules of a broken system as Biden currently is.

So if you're reading this thread you can likely see past the bullshit and fact checkers don't really enter into the equation for you. The purpose is to enforce an orthodox line of thinking upon people for whom the formulation of the argument matters more than what it promotes, and ensures nobody with the dedication to hold themselves to the rules will stray too far from the flock.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

TBH I kinda think the rules loving thing is an anglo thing

anglos are using "rational choice theory" to solve some problems with quantum physics it's really just always the same dumb poo poo with us

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Antonymous posted:

TBH I kinda think the rules loving thing is an anglo thing

anglos are using "rational choice theory" to solve some problems with quantum physics it's really just always the same dumb poo poo with us

*nods David Bohmishly*

cagliostr0
Jun 8, 2020

Antonymous posted:

TBH I kinda think the rules loving thing is an anglo thing

anglos are using "rational choice theory" to solve some problems with quantum physics it's really just always the same dumb poo poo with us

I have bad news about the Germans and their financial theories.

animist
Aug 28, 2018
the chinese too, for that matter.
but there's rationality and there's rationality

cagliostr0
Jun 8, 2020

animist posted:

the chinese too, for that matter.
but there's rationality and there's rationality

Pol Pot knew you couldn't trust anyone with glasses.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/gumby4christ/status/1518610648166506496?s=20&t=lyC0zAHfDTNpjzw8BCzhMw
https://twitter.com/gumby4christ/status/1518619879837949952?s=20&t=lyC0zAHfDTNpjzw8BCzhMw

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
reading that thread, finding out Daniel Kahneman is Epstein-connected is very lol

https://replicationindex.com/2017/02/02/reconstruction-of-a-train-wreck-how-priming-research-went-of-the-rails/comment-page-1/

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Biden just granted a pardon to the secret service agent who blew the whistle about the chicago attempt to assassinate jfk

quote:

In 1964, Bolden was arrested on charges related to attempting to sell a copy of a Secret Service file, an allegation he has consistently denied. He was convicted after two trials, even though key witnesses later admitted lying at the request of prosecutors, the White House said in a fact sheet.

Bolden was sentenced to six years in federal prison and has "been recognized for his many contributions to his community following his release," the White House said. He has also "received numerous honors and awards for his ongoing work to speak out against the racism he faced in the Secret Service in the 1960s, and his courage in challenging injustice."


Oh the prosecutor convinced mobsters to lie to convict a secret service agent of a crime? Better not look into that further.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3902495&page=1

quote:

Right-wing radical and Kennedy denouncer Thomas Vallee had arranged to be off work for JFK's visit; Vallee, an expert marksman, was arrested with an M1 rifle, a handgun and 3,000 rounds of ammo. But then there was the phone call to federal agents from a motel manager concerning what she'd seen in a room rented by two Cuban nationals.

"Had seen lying on the bed several automatic rifles with telescopic sights, with an outline of the route that President Kennedy was supposed to take in Chicago that would bring him past that building," said former Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden.

...

Bolden recalled how agents bungled surveillance of those two suspected Cuban hit men. They disappeared and were never identified.

"No one was sent to the room to fingerprint it or get an ID. The case was lost and that was the end of it," Bolden said.

On Nov. 2, the president was about to leave the White House for Chicago and Bolden says a Cuban murder squad here was unaccounted for.

...

Information about Vallee, his similarity in appearance and background to Oswald and details of the Cuban hit squad in Chicago were never given to federal agents in Dallas.

...

When the Warren Commission began investigating JFK's assassination, Bolden says, he attempted to inform members about the Chicago plot and misconduct by his fellow agents.

During that time Bolden was arrested and prosecuted for soliciting a bribe from a counterfeiter and served a six-year sentence. He says it was a setup to silence him.

uhhhhh what the gently caress

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

yeah those guys worked for the same spook cabal that whacked JFK

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Wow crazy how the secret service just plain ol forgot to follow up on a plot to kill the president

DirtyRobot
Dec 15, 2003

it was a normally happy sunny day... but Dirty Robot was dirty


Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


DeMoNiC nAtIoN

DirtyRobot
Dec 15, 2003

it was a normally happy sunny day... but Dirty Robot was dirty
I forgot about this part lol lmao

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/FluorescentGrey/status/1518312999328501761?s=20&t=SJ1R7bhjLDiy6EgjYcDIpw

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010




what's a good no-bullshit source on what exactly nxivm was/is

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there

Shear Modulus posted:

what's a good no-bullshit source on what exactly nxivm was/is

that one How to with John Wilson episode was pretty good

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


a weirdo with the right connections found out how to brainwash and made a pyramid scheme cult made of alarming kinds of flesh it's kinda straight up

assume there are spooky ties because of course there are but yeah it's not overly complex i think a guy just wanted a harem

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Mola Yam posted:

has the cia ever come out and said "we studied this poo poo in the 60s and HOLY poo poo it's SUPER EFFECTIVE and we use it ALL THE FUCKKEN TIME NOW YEEHAW"

The Rutger .22 ?



They’re pretty upfront about it being a weapon that’s only in inventory for assassinations.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Mola Yam posted:

has the cia ever come out and said "we studied this poo poo in the 60s and HOLY poo poo it's SUPER EFFECTIVE and we use it ALL THE FUCKKEN TIME NOW YEEHAW"

cia spy satellites are a big part of their official cold war hagiography

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Futanari Damacy posted:

It just tells you what's safe and unsafe for consumption, what to believe or not to believe. We fact-checked Epstein's suicide, and he definitely killed himself!

also they Fact Checked the story that a guy storming the capital in trump's putsch fell off a chair while trying to steal a painting and the taser he had stuffed into his waistband landed on his balls and tased his balls until he died, by calling his widow (who wasn't there) and asked her if her husband had died from accidentally tasing his balls to death and she said no

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

tip oneil remains undefeated

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Shear Modulus posted:

what's a good no-bullshit source on what exactly nxivm was/is

most of the female cast of Smallville ended up brainwashed and in a cult

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

is there more to nxivm than a uh "regular" sex cult? aside from the people involved being reasonably famous?

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




the skin branding

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Azathoth posted:

is there more to nxivm than a uh "regular" sex cult? aside from the people involved being reasonably famous?

Doesn't it have direct ties to the bronfmans or some similarly ghoulish family?

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


he's really getting stitched up for his orgies comment lmao

https://twitter.com/AndrewKerrNC/status/1519023647536603137

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

he's really getting stitched up for his orgies comment lmao

https://twitter.com/AndrewKerrNC/status/1519023647536603137

the dumbest gently caress in a veritable sea of dumb fucks

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

he's really getting stitched up for his orgies comment lmao

https://twitter.com/AndrewKerrNC/status/1519023647536603137

A congressperson getting hit for insider trading is like when the mob leaves the body somewhere to be found.

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Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

lmao i thought he was full of poo poo when he said it but the fact that everyone with opposition research is dumping it in sequence after holding it for this long makes me 100% believe he was telling the truth

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