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Doomykins posted:There's a lot of logic to FLs and they're surprisingly close to WoW BGs but a lot of it is built up as muscle memory by playing repeatedly. Also while it might take some coordination from your blob but try to engage the enemy while they are in a choke point and avoid engaging the enemy while you are in a choke point, otherwise you might get pounded by half a dozen perfectly placed Demi-Bahamuts with no escape.
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Hogama posted:The new Ultimate title is "The Heaven's Legend". These look great. Too bad I'll never get one.
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Cleretic posted:Worth asking, does Battle High affect LBs? Yeah, which is why you see White Mages getting such absurd healing totals at the end of the game, they're pumping out BH-boosted Purgation regens every fight. As much as SMN and DRG get a lot of attention in Frontline, WHM is somehow even dumber there than it was in CC. You have Purgation almost every fight and the range 40y means you can just about always hit an entire enemy team with it no matter how they're spaced. That said, I'm really impressed with the PvP adjustments for CC, along with how quickly they pumped them out. The changes were targeted but measured; along with the bugfix where Miracle of Nature ate ground effects WHM shouldn't be quite as oppressive any more.
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Just did another frontlines. 4/2/28 k/d/a. I don't kill a lot of people myself, but I do hit the people who are about to die a lot. We won, too, which is always nice. There were a few times that basically our entire murderball was killed. Two of those I did not escape.
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Despite only getting to about halfway through phase 1 the new ultimate is pretty fun. Dunno how often I'll take a crack at it but I hope I can beat it one day. I'm also interested in trying out the older ultimates now.
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super behind the times but, FYI for anyone who doesn't really do ex/savage stuff but wants to do faux hollows: ultima unreal is insanely easy
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Badger of Basra posted:super behind the times but, FYI for anyone who doesn't really do ex/savage stuff but wants to do faux hollows: ultima unreal is insanely easy I mean Ultima’s Bane at launch wasn’t particularly difficult at min ilevel. It’s probably the easiest of all ARR ex content by a good margin.
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Badger of Basra posted:super behind the times but, FYI for anyone who doesn't really do ex/savage stuff but wants to do faux hollows: ultima unreal is insanely easy Thanks, I always put off new extremes for way too long out of anxiety. This'll be the first time I actually engage with faux hollows. The anxiety is there even though I ran Ultima back when it was current content
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Apr 26, 2022 20:05
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As a fellow anxiety guy, the sooner you do the new extremes the better. Groups are far more patient, and learning is a lot more pleasant experience in the first week or so.
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If you want to win new Frontlines have a setup time macro that tells everyone to switch to Summoner and remind them they get XP on the class they queued as for incentive. I've managed to convince a few people to switch because they didn't realise that's how it works. Also you can't do anything to live if you get focused now so make a target macro and aim it at their people with BH5.
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hazardousmouse posted:Thanks, I always put off new extremes for way too long out of anxiety. This'll be the first time I actually engage with faux hollows. It’s exactly the same as the old ultima down to tank lb3 trivializing the third aetheric boom. It took us two pulls and I think 6 or 7 of the other people had never done Ultima’s Bane at level. If you did it during ARR, it just takes a minute to remember everything and then its easy. Also your tanks will probably die.
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Griz posted:that's what was intended all along. low level healer DPS spells were supposed to be reduced in MP cost but they accidentally gave Aero 2 the potency/duration from Dia along with the reduced MP. Oh. I don't know healer names on sight so I thought the mp reduction was on stuff still used at max level. Like how a change to a Summoner skill required editing four different abilities because they keep replacing it.
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Badger of Basra posted:super behind the times but, FYI for anyone who doesn't really do ex/savage stuff but wants to do faux hollows: ultima unreal is insanely easy It is, though it does have one part where most pf groups are better off using a tank LB to ignore the mechanic rather than trying to do it properly. I hear UW Unreal has the old enrage but I have yet to see it happen, even in parties that limp to the end with 8-10 deaths.
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Badger of Basra posted:super behind the times but, FYI for anyone who doesn't really do ex/savage stuff but wants to do faux hollows: ultima unreal is insanely easy How much of it do I have to do to get the mount? I saw a picture of it and it looks so doofy, I want it
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Apr 26, 2022 21:00
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Varies. You play a flip the tiles game after a kill to see how much currency you get. Probably 6-8 weeks of tells / retells on average?
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Thundarr posted:It is, though it does have one part where most pf groups are better off using a tank LB to ignore the mechanic rather than trying to do it properly. I assume everyone does the tank LB3 thing because it trivializes the fight and you don’t need it for dps so why do it the hard way
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Yeah, Ultima Unreal is insanely lenient on DPS, you can have half the party die on every ball + the airships with lasers and as long as you revive you're good to go. Which fits with how easy the original was, but it's jarring given Shiva and Titan Unreal had actual DPS checks in their fights.
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I did Unreal Leviathan. Ultima is NOTHING.
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Thundarr posted:It is, though it does have one part where most pf groups are better off using a tank LB to ignore the mechanic rather than trying to do it properly. I've had a 2% enrage but we had a ton of deaths, this unreal is ridiculously easy. You can basically sight read everything but like two or three mechanics if you have a basic grasp of the game, and one of them comes really quickly in the fight so you learn it real fast.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:As a fellow anxiety guy, the sooner you do the new extremes the better. Groups are far more patient, and learning is a lot more pleasant experience in the first week or so.
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I do wish there was some mechanism to encourage people to help others with first-time clears, like a once-a-week loot bonus or something, but it's hard to think of a way to construct a system that wouldn't be either abused or considered mandatory for progression raiders.
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hazardousmouse posted:Mentor roulette Even if it applies to current tiers, I think the overwhelming majority of people on NA datacenters use PFs over the Raid Finder.
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Vermain posted:I do wish there was some mechanism to encourage people to help others with first-time clears, like a once-a-week loot bonus or something, but it's hard to think of a way to construct a system that wouldn't be either abused or considered mandatory for progression raiders. Second Chance points and extra tomestones
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There's a tomestone bonus for everyone involved in a first-time clear, even in pf.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:There's a tomestone bonus for everyone involved in a first-time clear, even in pf.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:There's a tomestone bonus for everyone involved in a first-time clear, even in pf. Sure, but I don't think that it's a sufficiently incentivizing reward for the difficulty of the content considering the ease of capping tomestones every week.
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Vermain posted:I do wish there was some mechanism to encourage people to help others with first-time clears, like a once-a-week loot bonus or something, but it's hard to think of a way to construct a system that wouldn't be either abused or considered mandatory for progression raiders. it's called having friends
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Trash Ops posted:it's called having friends See now this is my problem
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I don't think there would be a balanced reward for clearing stuff. Like the Aphorism tomestones are great for alt gear now that the 590 crafted gear is out, but if you don't need alt gear, what's left? Anything better for an extreme trial would be bonkers, and Savage gear has its own set of limits. I'm unimaginative but I can't think of a good reward that's also balanced and not mandatory for prog.
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The current EX and unreals are the easiest they've had in a while, this is the absolute best time to dip your toes into PF
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It's hilarious how they said EX3 was gonna be a grueling fight and so they give 2 totems per clear and then it turns out... it's a slightly long but easy fight where you see every single mechanic by 50% HP. Kinda smells like they cut some corners there.
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Mix. posted:https://twitter.com/MattBodega/status/1518961122186981378?s=20&t=-1kL4WpTUm0AkLLycraLzg When they kill you? That should be our LB sound effect.
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Speak for yourself, I want careless whisper as a LB sound effect.
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Mix. posted:https://twitter.com/MattBodega/status/1518961122186981378?s=20&t=-1kL4WpTUm0AkLLycraLzg the sad trombone from the price is right.
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Badger of Basra posted:super behind the times but, FYI for anyone who doesn't really do ex/savage stuff but wants to do faux hollows: ultima unreal is insanely easy insanely easy you say...
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super sweet best pal posted:Speak for yourself, I want careless whisper as a LB sound effect. PvP bards should never shoot arrows. All of their attacks should be different instruments.
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HackensackBackpack posted:PvP bards should never shoot arrows. All of their attacks should be different instruments. found an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJapzzKbEJ0
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