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Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:
thank goodness there's always a website with a name like "streammmzone123 dot com" that let's me watch whatever show i want as long as i'm willing to deal with pop-ups and redirects. somehow this is preferable to navigating loving like five streaming services so i can watch anime and also simpsons

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Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
One of the interesting things here is that on Playstation, you can search for a movie and it shows you all the services it's on. It's actually pretty convenient.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Lazy_Liberal posted:

thank goodness there's always a website with a name like "streammmzone123 dot com" that let's me watch whatever show i want as long as i'm willing to deal with pop-ups and redirects. somehow this is preferable to navigating loving like five streaming services so i can watch anime and also simpsons
Yeah 2022 is weird like that

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

One of the interesting things here is that on Playstation, you can search for a movie and it shows you all the services it's on. It's actually pretty convenient.

Same with the TV app on Apple products. I check it every month to see if I'm Alan Partridge is streaming anywhere again.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Starks posted:

I'm not surprised Netflix is getting rid of all the things that were once good about it. Their competitors are doing week-to-week episodes, have way less content for the price, have trailers at the beginning of shows, upsell you on extra channels, ignore foreign language and older films, and they are still making tons of money. The success of Disney and Apple+ despite how poo poo they are really just shows that you only need one, maybe 2 big shows a season to get people to pay 10-20 bucks for your streaming service and nothing else matters. Between the Witcher, Bridgerton, Drive to Survive, Squid Game et al, I have a feeling Netflix will do just fine as a company even if it pisses me off personally.

but those services don't cost 10-20 bucks. they cost like 5-10.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Sock The Great posted:

Too much money is subjective, if you don't think it's worth the price you can always cancel.

Password sharing takes a potential customer (someone who is interested in Netflix, but is not paying for it) and converts them into a definite non-customer (someone who either is not interested in Netflix or is getting it for free). I am not on Netflix's board, but I do defend their right to make money by selling their product.

That’s certainly one way to look at it.

I pay for Netflix and have for over a decade now. I do not think it’s a very good service anymore but I continue to pay for it because I share my account with my parents and my brother. I figure between all of us it’s worth it. Besides they already limit the number of screens which means even if I share my account with 50 people only two can watch it at once. Which btw already costs extra money.

I’m just one person but if I can’t share my account it’s an instant cancel, so that means they go from getting $15 a month from me to zero and the rest of my family sure isn’t going to sub on their own. I hardly think I’m alone in this scenario.

Alienating existing customers is not the way to go when your company is on the outs and there is tons of competition.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

One of the interesting things here is that on Playstation, you can search for a movie and it shows you all the services it's on. It's actually pretty convenient.

Plex just added a feature like that (Discover). Search for a movie and it will show you the apps that have the show/movie you're looking for. If you're using it on PC you can click and it will load it up on the appropriate site.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
I think Apple TV (the app, not the streaming service) does that too.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

One of the interesting things here is that on Playstation, you can search for a movie and it shows you all the services it's on. It's actually pretty convenient.

wait, doesn't everyone know that Google does this too if you configure it right? :confused:

it's the only way i can reliably find anything, and it's rarely wrong

thatfuturekid
Jan 5, 2014

Lazy_Liberal posted:

thank goodness there's always a website with a name like "streammmzone123 dot com" that let's me watch whatever show i want as long as i'm willing to deal with pop-ups and redirects. somehow this is preferable to navigating loving like five streaming services so i can watch anime and also simpsons

Honestly I am so glad for the one I recently found. It works like a charm on the xbox browser and has next to no ads. I just can't justify having 54 different platforms anymore. Hulu and HBO are the only two I pay for at this point (Paramount + luckily I got free thorugh Tmobie so I can watch soccer)

Superrodan
Nov 27, 2007

thatfuturekid posted:

Honestly I am so glad for the one I recently found. It works like a charm on the xbox browser and has next to no ads. I just can't justify having 54 different platforms anymore. Hulu and HBO are the only two I pay for at this point (Paramount + luckily I got free thorugh Tmobie so I can watch soccer)

I know someone who was sold an android powered device by some kind of "friend of a friend has the hookup" situation. It plugs to their TV and has a bunch of apps on it that essentially seek out all the pirate sites that exist and compile the newest movies and shows into one place. They booted it up and showed me it, and it pretty much let them watch anything using those kinds of sites, but its all in a nice easy to use interface. Once you're in the apps looks like a legit streaming service, with a bunch of movie posters and descriptions, essentially, but it has literally anything that's out there.

I have a feeling that's going to be this generation's version of an illegal cable box/hookup for older/less technological people that don't know that you can just kinda find that same content on the internet yourself if you know where to look.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Superrodan posted:

I know someone who was sold an android powered device by some kind of "friend of a friend has the hookup" situation. It plugs to their TV and has a bunch of apps on it that essentially seek out all the pirate sites that exist and compile the newest movies and shows into one place. They booted it up and showed me it, and it pretty much let them watch anything using those kinds of sites, but its all in a nice easy to use interface. Once you're in the apps looks like a legit streaming service, with a bunch of movie posters and descriptions, essentially, but it has literally anything that's out there.

I have a feeling that's going to be this generation's version of an illegal cable box/hookup for older/less technological people that don't know that you can just kinda find that same content on the internet yourself if you know where to look.

Plex?

Gringo Heisenberg
May 30, 2009




:dukedog:

Superrodan posted:

I know someone who was sold an android powered device by some kind of "friend of a friend has the hookup" situation. It plugs to their TV and has a bunch of apps on it that essentially seek out all the pirate sites that exist and compile the newest movies and shows into one place. They booted it up and showed me it, and it pretty much let them watch anything using those kinds of sites, but its all in a nice easy to use interface. Once you're in the apps looks like a legit streaming service, with a bunch of movie posters and descriptions, essentially, but it has literally anything that's out there.

I have a feeling that's going to be this generation's version of an illegal cable box/hookup for older/less technological people that don't know that you can just kinda find that same content on the internet yourself if you know where to look.

Sounds like Kodi or a similar program. Kodi on firesticks was super popular a few years ago, was a pain to update though

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Gringo Heisenberg posted:

Sounds like Kodi or a similar program. Kodi on firesticks was super popular a few years ago, was a pain to update though

My aunt bought a Firestick at a flea market for $100 and was raving about how great it was that she could watch any movie she wanted. I offhandedly mentioned that it was still technically piracy and she flipped out thinking the FBI was coming for her. Heh, good times.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Medullah posted:

My aunt bought a Firestick at a flea market for $100 and was raving about how great it was that she could watch any movie she wanted. I offhandedly mentioned that it was still technically piracy and she flipped out thinking the FBI was coming for her. Heh, good times.
I was very confused by this sentence and how someone would buy a used fire stick for $100 but I guess it was one of those things where it's preloaded with software for piracy?

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

mystes posted:

I was very confused by this sentence and how someone would buy a used fire stick for $100 but I guess it was one of those things where it's preloaded with software for piracy?

Right, sold as a "Use this and get all movies for free!"

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
Yes. People have been selling modded smart sticks and boxes since the invention of proprietary devices. I remember relatives buying hacked cable boxes from random shaddy connections to get HBO and other satellite channels in the early 90s.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
You literally could order a Satellite descrambler from Canadians in the late 80s. Got you all the channels for free. You had to update it every so often with a proprietary device, though. It was my dad's deal, I never really paid attention.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Modifying a cable box or satellite receiver so you can watch pay channels for free is a little different than what is (probably) just selling a fire stick with kodi and various piracy plugins preloaded

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


There was a golden era of DirectTV hacked cards that unlocked literally every channel and PPV. Was famously stopped on Black Sunday, a week before the Super Bowl in 2001, when DirecTV activated a kill code that fried every hacked card.

https://blog.codinghorror.com/revisiting-the-black-sunday-hack/

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Enos Cabell posted:

There was a golden era of DirectTV hacked cards that unlocked literally every channel and PPV. Was famously stopped on Black Sunday, a week before the Super Bowl in 2001, when DirecTV activated a kill code that fried every hacked card.

https://blog.codinghorror.com/revisiting-the-black-sunday-hack/

This poo poo was a nightmare when I worked at Best Buy because people would open the sattelite boxes and steal the cards to hack, and we literally couldn't sell or return them to the vendor so we had to send brand new satellite boxes to our scrap facility and lose money.

Buttchocks
Oct 21, 2020

No, I like my hat, thanks.
Maybe Netflix could adopt the international long-distance business model and sell cards with viewing minutes at mall kiosks and subway stations.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

Yes. People have been selling modded smart sticks and boxes since the invention of proprietary devices. I remember relatives buying hacked cable boxes from random shaddy connections to get HBO and other satellite channels in the early 90s.

from around 1997-2001 (when I moved out), my parents used a descrambler box of some type that looked like one of the generic plastic VHS clamshell cases. It got literally everything BUT HBO. It was great for me as I was getting into wrestling and got to watch every PPV for free. Also, I was really into porn and got that for free.

Superrodan
Nov 27, 2007
Yeah, generally when I was a kid people would sell fake cable box hookups to get all the channels. That seemed like it kinda went away in the age of streaming. I guess what I saw was similar to a firestick but it seemed like a little box instead of a thumb drive. Generally though, it matches what you guys were saying. It also has some live TV app on it. Essentially, it was sold to them like "the ultimate streaming service".

I wonder if streaming becomes more and more divided if those things are going to thrive more and more.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

I used to work for a company that sold those cable boxes! This was back in the 90s and they worked great until every cable company started to switch from analog to digital, which was much harder to crack.

I made really good money there. Also, every employee was always on drugs. Cocaine, usually. You'd put a customer on hold, snort a line off your desk, and go back to selling them a descrambler.

I still remember the disclaimer we had to say before accepting their credit card -- "Orion Electronics does not support the theft of cable services in any way, shape, or form. This device will descramble all channels. Your cable company will not know you are using it and we do not contact them for you (pregnant pause) which is why it is your legal responsibility to contact your cable company so they can charge you appropriately. Do you understand and agree to contact your cable provider?"

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Apr 28, 2022

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

If you have Shudder, the new season of Joe Bob's Last Drive-In starts tomorrow.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


While I have not used them myself, it seems like the 2020's version of the hacked cable card is Plex shares you can join (for free or a monthly subscription, payable with a credit card or cryptocurrency). I've seen folks advertise them with upwards of 100,000+ movie and TV series, and you can even request they add things if they aren't already available. Piracy as a Service.

Superrodan
Nov 27, 2007

Sirotan posted:

While I have not used them myself, it seems like the 2020's version of the hacked cable card is Plex shares you can join (for free or a monthly subscription, payable with a credit card or cryptocurrency). I've seen folks advertise them with upwards of 100,000+ movie and TV series, and you can even request they add things if they aren't already available. Piracy as a Service.

I'm pretty surprised this isn't somehow against Plex's policy and something they'd want to crack down on (since people are using their service for shady purposes AND to make money that they don't see any of). I would imagine they could find some way to determine how many people are connecting to a plex server and whether the traffic seems "legitimate".

I don't know how Plex charges people that use their service to host, or the details of how Plex works other than "people can access media I have hosted on at my own server", so I guess because they aren't hosting any of the content themselves its probably something that doesn't concern them too much. Does Plex take some kind of cut based on how many people connect to your server?

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Superrodan posted:

I don't know how Plex charges people that use their service to host, or the details of how Plex works other than "people can access media I have hosted on at my own server", so I guess because they aren't hosting any of the content themselves its probably something that doesn't concern them too much. Does Plex take some kind of cut based on how many people connect to your server?

Plex is software you run on your own infrastructure, you host the content or connect to other people's servers to stream what they host. It's completely free to do both of those things, there is also a monthly subscription option and one time lifetime subscription cost that gets you access to additional features (like, you can now stream content to a mobile device). Lifetime Plex Pass can be had for $75 when it goes on sale. That's the only money that actually goes back to Plex.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Plex's paid service only unlocks more features like better quality transcoding, hdr tone mapping, the types of users that you can share you plex with (I think free only let's you add 'managed' users like a basic account you'd make for grandma or something). I think you can only use the mobile apps if you subscribe but I'm not 100% sure.

I bought a lifetime pass way back when plex first launched and it's been an incredible service and I just use it for my own stuff and share mine with friends.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
Edit: wrong thread

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

David spades new special was hilarious. funnier than the last one although I also enjoyed that one

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Every time Hulu "also recommends" Ghosts of Mars I'm owed hazard pay

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
this stupid new game show on netflix is so stupid but it's actually pretty fun as far as these kind of "quiz show with a twist" goes

its called Bullshit and the conceit is that if the person has to guess they have to make up a story about why they know the answer. thats not explicitly said (that they HAVE TO tell a dumb story) but its obvious thats whats going on. three other people are calling whether they tell the truht or lie and if only one of them believes the OP then even if theyre wrong they still keep playing so its pretty stupid and fun

mystes
May 31, 2006

precision posted:

this stupid new game show on netflix is so stupid but it's actually pretty fun as far as these kind of "quiz show with a twist" goes

its called Bullshit and the conceit is that if the person has to guess they have to make up a story about why they know the answer. thats not explicitly said (that they HAVE TO tell a dumb story) but its obvious thats whats going on. three other people are calling whether they tell the truht or lie and if only one of them believes the OP then even if theyre wrong they still keep playing so its pretty stupid and fun
You might like the British comedy panel show "Would I Lie to You?"

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Barry Foster posted:

Severance is some of the best TV I've watched in a long, long time. I love everything about it - writing, music, acting, aesthetic, all top notch. The finale was absolutely gripping, I'm at once completely satisfied and hungry for more.

I just finished it and it was incredible

but I really hate when shows end in this way where a major conflict/resolution is in the middle of happening, but then punted to a next season. I feel like the only way to avoid this is to just not watch stuff that people say is good until it's over, but then you risk spoilers as everyone talks about it. it's really the only fault I can find with this show, everything about it was fantastic except the narrative structure of this ending

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
It’s a cliffhanger though, they’ve been doing those for 40 years now. Unless a show is explicitly a limited/miniseries you should just expect it from a season finale.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
Speaking of cliffhangers my SO and I watched all of Yellowjackets in two days and it's pretty bad form to show a crazy thing happen in the first episode and then instead of building to that thing in the finale instead build to the implication that thing is probably going to happen in the next season, maybe

snoot
Jun 8, 2006

danger lurks everywhere
Regarding subscription sharing, I noticed sites like this https://www.togetherprice.com where you can pay to use someone else's subscription, or share your own.

Sounds not entirely legal, and giving strangers credentials to your account seems like a recipe for disaster.

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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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ruddiger posted:

If you have Shudder, the new season of Joe Bob's Last Drive-In starts tomorrow.



Every time I turn on this guy he’s complaining about women and wokeness or whatever the hell.

I don’t need this crotchy rear end bitch to host my horror films.

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