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Shadow immediately dies in his first scene, being 50 years old which is well beyond a hedgehog’s lifespan.
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Apr 28, 2022 06:50
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he was actually created from the DNA of an alien conqueror and is immortal and is not a hedgehog
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Apr 28, 2022 06:54
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It turns out it was actually a teaser for Mephiles.
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Apr 28, 2022 07:02
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Someone already suggested Keanu as the perfect VA for Shadow, so who should play Amy? Jenny Slate so that she and Ben Schwartz can do more Parks and Rec references?
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Apr 28, 2022 13:10
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wuggles posted:Someone already suggested Keanu as the perfect VA for Shadow, so who should play Amy? Jenny Slate so that she and Ben Schwartz can do more Parks and Rec references? That could work. Alternatively they could just get her current game VA like they did with Tails (the former of whom has improved tremendously since she dropped the weird Minnie Mouse impression)
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Apr 28, 2022 13:17
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:he was actually created from the DNA of an alien conqueror and is immortal and is not a hedgehog That's a retcon. Shadow is absolutely a hedgehog because being a hedgehog is a prerequisite for becoming ultimate life. Shadow's appearance is a result of Gerald attempting to interpret the Super Sonic vs. Perfect Chaos prophecy mural from the ancient Echidna civilization. The Biolizard is an attempt - and not the only one - at an artificial Chaos. The events of Sonic Adventure 2 were set in motion by a 50-year effort to force the prophecy that described Sonic Adventure 1 to occur.
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Apr 28, 2022 13:26
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ya i hope a hypothetical movie amy keeps her game actor. I'm not a fan of shadow's current va's take on the voice though and would be fine with a replacement
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Apr 28, 2022 14:34
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Looper posted:ya i hope a hypothetical movie amy keeps her game actor. I'm not a fan of shadow's current va's take on the voice though and would be fine with a replacement Kirk Thorton has gotten better at it but, but still isn't quite hitting the Jason Griffith highs though. Either Lisa Ortiz or Cindy Robinson would be great for Amy though yeah
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Apr 28, 2022 14:44
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Shadow is voiced by Will Arnett using the LEGO Batman voice.
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Apr 28, 2022 14:51
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wuggles posted:Someone already suggested Keanu as the perfect VA for Shadow, so who should play Amy? Jenny Slate so that she and Ben Schwartz can do more Parks and Rec references? I'd be fine with them pulling a Tails and getting the VA that voices her for Sonic Boom
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Apr 28, 2022 14:54
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Funky Valentine posted:Shadow is voiced by Will Arnett using the LEGO Batman voice. That might actually be an improvement honestly As mentioned though, Kirk’s gotten better as of late but still isn’t quite up to Jason Griffith or David Humphrey levels (though honestly I think his Shadow would be better if he just used his Saix voice from Kingdom Hearts)
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Apr 28, 2022 14:57
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Macaluso posted:I'd be fine with them pulling a Tails and getting the VA that voices her for Sonic Boom The Sonic Boom actress is the same one who’s voiced Amy in the games since Free Riders (she just dropped the weird Minnie Mouse impression as I mentioned)
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Apr 28, 2022 14:58
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Larryb posted:The Sonic Boom actress is the same one who’s voiced Amy in the games since Free Riders (she just dropped the weird Minnie Mouse impression as I mentioned) Well there you go! I didn't bother looking it up so I wasn't sure if she's been doing it a while as well so i just mentioned Boom. edit: I definitely missed your initial post right below his
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Apr 28, 2022 15:01
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https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1519656479657242624 Aw drat bro that sucks they just came in and killed your game for no reason. Can't imagine how that feels.
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Apr 28, 2022 15:03
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Release the Naka cut!
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Apr 28, 2022 15:05
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Is that Yuji "<in Japanese> Demolish everything these bozos have done and take their tech for Sonic. Good thing these dumbass westerners can't speak Japanese lmao" Naka?
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Apr 28, 2022 15:13
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Someone did a better translation of the thread here. https://twitter.com/Cheesemeister3k/status/1519667053283532801?t=2x3On_IdTsFT38vOAbFwpA&s=19
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Apr 28, 2022 15:36
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Dude just straight up admits HR booted him out lmao.
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Apr 28, 2022 16:15
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That sounds more like he’s upset the game had some incorrect songs in places and didn’t have proper time to fix bugs and such. Which…fair, but the problem was the stupid one-button gameplay lol. No polish could fix that.
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Apr 28, 2022 16:30
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Introducing Amy in the same movie as Shadow would probably make a lot of sense? They're pretty opposite role-wise, Amy being probably comic relief and a relatively 'normal' character as far as talking alien hedgehogs go. Given the trio are orphans and/or outcasts, someone who actually like, has an ordinary life on whatever planet the talking colourful animal people come from, is used to walking around in public and probably has the equivalent of a social security number, might make for some fun contrast.
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Apr 28, 2022 17:04
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Yeah uh, I think if the entire development team and Square-Enix, including Square-Enix HR wanted to boot you from the project then that sounds more like the problem is with Yuji Naka than anyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if he was up to his usual abusive tricks during development and then is surprised that unlike at Sega, he's not some untouchable rockstar at Square-Enix. It's a shame people are defending Naka on Twitter based entirely on a machine translation which left out important key details however.
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Apr 28, 2022 17:10
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1519656479657242624 This is my take as well.
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Apr 28, 2022 17:11
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Arzest is one of the worst developers out there. Square Enix releases multiple disasters every year. Its no surprise this game was a sloppy mess. Yugi Naka is most definitely an rear end in a top hat who hasn't released a great game in almost two decades. Balan Wonderland was doomed from the start. Arzest &Square deserve all the blame, but Naka is not the person you should really expect much out of these days.
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Apr 28, 2022 17:31
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More like Yuji Baka.
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Apr 28, 2022 17:42
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There was a deep dive recently into Sonic/Sonic Team's trouble history and it really was not favorable to Naka - he basically frequently would try to have other devs thrown under the bus. I think he had some other project cannibalized for the sake of Sonic Adventure or sosmuch. He sounds genuinely like he was a bit of a dick.
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Apr 28, 2022 17:43
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Oxyclean posted:There was a deep dive recently into Sonic/Sonic Team's trouble history and it really was not favorable to Naka - he basically frequently would try to have other devs thrown under the bus. I think he had some other project cannibalized for the sake of Sonic Adventure or sosmuch. Yeah that's what I was referencing. He showed up at their office to see what they'd got, and he was walking around telling his own team "this looks good, it'll work well when we shut this place down and use it for Sonic". Didn't realise most of them could speak Japanese and every engineer the studio had quit.
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Apr 28, 2022 17:50
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it is difficult to remain humble when you helped create sonic the hedgehog
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Apr 28, 2022 18:33
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Pants Donkey posted:That sounds more like he’s upset the game had some incorrect songs in places and didn’t have proper time to fix bugs and such.. The translation still makes things a bit unclear but it seems like he was arguing with Fujimoto about the fact that the game was marketed using a fan-made rearrangement instead of the music, and he was accused of damaging the relationship with Arzest by saying that the game wasn’t in a satisfactory state when Arzest handed it off to them and would need more work, so they fired him
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Apr 28, 2022 19:08
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Oxyclean posted:There was a deep dive recently into Sonic/Sonic Team's trouble history and it really was not favorable to Naka - he basically frequently would try to have other devs thrown under the bus. I think he had some other project cannibalized for the sake of Sonic Adventure or sosmuch. secretly best girl posted:Naka stories that might bear revisiting in the wake of this debacle: Prope Looks like he's always been a major problem for the people around him.
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Apr 28, 2022 19:20
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naka is bad and is the reason so many bad sonic games were released imo
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Apr 28, 2022 19:30
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:naka is bad and is the reason so many bad sonic games were released imo True, he's not there now and the bad sonic games take many years to release
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Apr 28, 2022 19:39
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DoctorWhat posted:That's a retcon. Shadow is absolutely a hedgehog because being a hedgehog is a prerequisite for becoming ultimate life. Shadow's appearance is a result of Gerald attempting to interpret the Super Sonic vs. Perfect Chaos prophecy mural from the ancient Echidna civilization. The Biolizard is an attempt - and not the only one - at an artificial Chaos. I suppose the question is if a bunch of weird science stuff in the shape of a Hedgehog that thinks they're a Hedgehog but does not necessarily contain Hedgehog DNA qualifies as a Hedgehog.
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Apr 28, 2022 19:50
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Discendo Vox posted:It turns out it was actually a teaser for Mephiles. Honestly, it probably wouldn't be too hard to combine the entire modern pre-boost era into one movie.
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Apr 28, 2022 19:59
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Robot Style posted:Honestly, it probably wouldn't be too hard to combine the entire modern pre-boost era into one movie. Stone shouldn't kiss anyone except Robotnik
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Apr 28, 2022 20:06
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Dabir posted:Yeah that's what I was referencing. He showed up at their office to see what they'd got, and he was walking around telling his own team "this looks good, it'll work well when we shut this place down and use it for Sonic". Didn't realise most of them could speak Japanese and every engineer the studio had quit.
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Apr 28, 2022 20:17
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Willo567 posted:Naka is a loving rear end in a top hat. I have absolutely no respect for him - at least Inafune admitted he hosed up with Mighty Number 9 and tried to give credit to the guy who actually created Mega Man On a similar note, is it true that Naka is not technically the “father” of Sonic either (and if so, who should mostly be credited with the character’s creation)?
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Apr 28, 2022 20:22
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The real shame about Naka and Squeenix parting so acrimoniously is that it means they won't be able to keep annoying the gently caress out of each other for years to come. Sounds like two parties that really deserve each other.
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Apr 28, 2022 20:23
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Larryb posted:On a similar note, is it true that Naka is not technically the “father” of Sonic either (and if so, who should mostly be credited with the character’s creation)? I'm sure the truth is more complicated than this, a game is the work of an entire team after all, but the generally accepted history is that three people created Sonic. Naoto Oshima designed the character, Yuji Naka was a programmer and Hirokazu Yasuhara designed gameplay and levels. All three deserve some level of credit, but if you're looking for the one person most responsible for what made those first few Slnic games special, you're probably looking at Yasuhara.
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Larryb posted:On a similar note, is it true that Naka is not technically the “father” of Sonic either (and if so, who should mostly be credited with the character’s creation)? Naoto Ohshima was the character designer, and Hirokazu Yasuhara was the game planner and level designer on Sonics 1 and 2. Yuji Naka was the programmer and the guy who made the engine and physics work in the Genesis games. So arguably all three of these people can be equally credited with being the "father" of Sonic but Naka (in)famously has taken most of the credit for it and seemed to assume the title in the zeitgeist.
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