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GD_American posted:I was essentially a fobbit in OIF2, but on a base large enough and close enough to population (Baqubah) that we got mortared daily. We got very blase about it; they essentially chucked a few rounds randomly every day at our (mostly empty) base. You got fatalistic; it either hit you or it didn't. Anaconda was a pretty wild place for as big as it was. I still have the tail fin from a french type 25 rocket (70mm~ or so) that direct hit a building I was in at the time. The Saddam concrete was so lovely the warhead just burrowed in without detonating. The tail fin has been my keychain for 17 years.
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One of my E5s was taking a poo poo in a connex shitter at Shank when a mortar duded off the roof. We got a lot of joke mileage out of that one. A week later we took a direct hit. The rocket hit a HESCO and killed two Afghan contractors standing next to two of my guys. They were only spared because there was a single section of T-wall between them. The rocket and mortar jokes stopped after that.
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Blind Rasputin posted:I know nothing but I looked up what an artillery crew does and stumbled on this video and holy poo poo😳😳😳 Anyone can one man one hand ram a round, whats impressive is when you meet the fucker who can one man one hand bore punch a 155.
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Crossposting from the Airpower thread, the Germans are folding and going to pay for gas with rubles. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61257846
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Dance Officer posted:Crossposting from the Airpower thread, the Germans are folding and going to pay for gas with rubles. That already happened, Russia refused the payment for some reason. I saw a bunch of headlines yesterday about this.
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Dance Officer posted:Crossposting from the Airpower thread, the Germans are folding and going to pay for gas with rubles. Kind of. They were trying to pay through the NORMAL Gazprom method which does convert Euro to Rubles. But as the above said: Russia wants Rubles directly or nothing at all to force Germany to prop up their currency even more.
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Carteret posted:and check out this ROF That gun is moving around a lot, they don't have to re-target after firing?
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zoux posted:That gun is moving around a lot, they don't have to re-target after firing? Rotation is extremely bad movement for artillery. Just shoving back a few inches each shot is meaningless.
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Yesterday we were talking about artillery and I typed up some stuff but didn't finish it. So arty has three parts: 1) observer 2) fire direction control 3) gun crew. The basic way use is observer talks to the fdc for a fire mission, fdc translates the target location into data for the guns, and then one gun fires. shell lands, observer sends back corrections (left, right, add, drop). Once on target, the whole battery can fire x amount of rounds using the same data. Because they're using the same data, the impacts will roughly land in the same pattern that guns are arranged on the ground. it looks something like this  If you're trying to ambush a convoy coming down a road, things get more complex. the FDC can give each gun their own data so that all the fires converge on a single spot IE the road. You can have the guns knock out the lead vehicle and then start working back down the road. You can have a second battery (or half the first battery) start working the convoy over from the tail end and start moving up the road. If there are obstacles on one or both sides of the road or you knock out enough vehicles to make your own roadbloack, you can make it really fun by throwing in wp so they can't see how to even drive out of the ambush, or risk driving into a canal, mud, etc. not to mention the other fun side effects. So there is a pretty huge difference between a barely trained arty unit and a really good one, especially if the enemy does something cowardly like trying to move.
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And a good FO is worth their weight.
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bulletsponge13 posted:And a good FO is worth their weight in pizza MREs
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I’m a former infantry guy, and I never knew a whole hell of a lot about artillery aside from how to call for it (and even that’s really rusty). I just looked up some videos of US and Canadian dudes firing off an M777 Howitzer (155mm), and that looks like a lot of moving parts that they cram into about 10-12 seconds before sending another round downrange. I know there are relentless drills and training involved, but it still looks like a ton of stuff is going on within a short window to get those rounds out of the barrel and on their way, let alone getting those rounds to where they’re supposed to be going.
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zoux posted:That gun is moving around a lot, they don't have to re-target after firing? The gunner and a-gunner are doing that but you have to know what to look for. The guys checking vials on the left and right side of the cannon. Icon Of Sin posted:I’m a former infantry guy, and I never knew a whole hell of a lot about artillery aside from how to call for it (and even that’s really rusty). They're called cannoneer drills and yes, you do them a lot as a crewman. Still have my gunners card around here somewhere. You're often competing within your own battery not just to be the first to fire the mission, but first to hit the target, as missing with a howitzer is very very bad. Edit : A lot of the drilling is emplacing and displacing and the pintle weight of a 155 is a four man, or two really swole men lift. Steezo fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Apr 28, 2022 |
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Icon Of Sin posted:I’m a former infantry guy, and I never knew a whole hell of a lot about artillery aside from how to call for it (and even that’s really rusty). I thought TOW drills were beast. I spent some YouTube doing drills/firing, and it is baller.
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Apr 28, 2022 22:02
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How many gun crew end up on pit crews later in their carer. Feels like a good transition for their tightly choreographed ballet of heavy items and things that might explode.
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Apr 28, 2022 22:04
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Drilling is fine, but did you race? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lhx6Q3WuvU
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Drilling is fine, but did you race? Mad loving respect.
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My battalion had matching satellite trucks from the day and we sure as gently caress did complete because we're loving goobers, but also because we were usually shooting to each other. 
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Science Daddy please buy Circuit City, Sears, and Blockbuster for the lulz. Also don’t read the contracts very well.
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Wasabi the J posted:My battalion had matching satellite trucks from the day and we sure as gently caress did complete because we're loving goobers, but also because we were usually shooting to each other. Oh poo poo! A 93! It's been forever since I've seen one of those!
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Drilling is fine, but did you race? I typically hate this poo poo, but that is cool as hell.
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Crab Dad posted:Mad loving respect. See I feel like the difference between when they do this and when the Russians do it is that the British will put on a good show and their guys can actually do it in a real situation. Not to besmirch the high quality of the VDV and Spetnaz. lol
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Marshal Prolapse posted:See I feel like the difference between when they do this and when the Russians do it is that the British will put on a good show and their guys can actually do it in a real situation. Not to besmirch the high quality of the VDV and Spetnaz. lol That gun they're carrying is a 19th century field piece. There's not much call to do the gun race in actual combat, it's entirely a bragging rights/tradition thing like the US Army's horse cavalry demonstration unit. Having said that, those fellows are absolutely professionals when they go back to their day jobs pushing buttons or maintaining equipment.
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Wasabi the J posted:My battalion had matching satellite trucks from the day and we sure as gently caress did complete because we're loving goobers, but also because we were usually shooting to each other. What manner of linen napkin EAC loving bullshit is this 
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:That gun they're carrying is a 19th century field piece. There's not much call to do the gun race in actual combat, it's entirely a bragging rights/tradition thing like the US Army's horse cavalry demonstration unit. Having said that, those fellows are absolutely professionals when they go back to their day jobs pushing buttons or maintaining equipment. Yeah, it's a competition that came about as a way of commemorating the Relief of Ladysmith during the Second Boer War. Two RN ships, Terrible and Powerful sent gun crews ashore to support the army. The terrain was lovely and the wheels of one one gun broke, so for a couple of miles its crew carried it.
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pfft how quickly we forget the far superior North Korean exhibitions that demonstrate uhhhh https://i.imgur.com/Bie5fA9.mp4
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:That gun they're carrying is a 19th century field piece. There's not much call to do the gun race in actual combat, it's entirely a bragging rights/tradition thing like the US Army's horse cavalry demonstration unit. Having said that, those fellows are absolutely professionals when they go back to their day jobs pushing buttons or maintaining equipment. I guess my point is also that they probably can actually do functional military things...as opposed to well this. 
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Arrath posted:How many gun crew end up on pit crews later in their carer. Feels like a good transition for their tightly choreographed ballet of heavy items and things that might explode. Pro race teams target almost but didn't make the pros college athletes.
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bulletsponge13 posted:I typically hate this poo poo, but that is cool as hell. At least there's teamwork on display here.
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Loden Taylor posted:pfft how quickly we forget the far superior North Korean exhibitions that demonstrate uhhhh You laugh but that man took out a an Abrams with his forehead.
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Loden Taylor posted:pfft how quickly we forget the far superior North Korean exhibitions that demonstrate uhhhh anti Explosive Reactive Armor suicide infantry
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Marshal Prolapse posted:I guess my point is also that they probably can actually do functional military things...as opposed to well this. you laugh but when a VDV man gets his foot caught in a parachute flying into Tomatotown
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Murgos posted:You laugh but that man took out a an Abrams with his forehead.
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Alan Smithee posted:anti Explosive Reactive Armor suicide infantry The natural progression of the claymore team where one person gets the clacker and the other person runs with the claymore front towards enemy! Dear leader is really digging that demonstration lol.
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Wrong Theory posted:The natural progression of the claymore team where one person gets the clacker and the other person runs with the claymore front towards enemy! so they did learn from the NATO response to the tree incident
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i'd be clapping like hell at that, too. last thing i want is them to send that guys forehead after me
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you have displeased Kim death by running into bricks
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Marshal Prolapse posted:I guess my point is also that they probably can actually do functional military things...as opposed to well this. Hey remember these assholes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ar7vYg0pY https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1395394254969753601
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Stultus Maximus posted:Hey remember these assholes? A tweet so bad it makes you want to flee to Mexico.
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Sayeth Ted Cruz. A weenie bitch who never served 5 minutes in the military nor did anyone in his family.
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