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Cloks posted:I believe that there are some corporate restrictions on what can be done with the character. Oh I know I don’t think it’s because all the writers like suck or anythung, but SM has such a tight SQ he must return to that there really isn’t much room for character stuff. So they just give him jobs everyone knows won’t stick
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CharlestheHammer posted:Oh I know I don’t think it’s because all the writers like suck or anythung, but SM has such a tight SQ he must return to that there really isn’t much room for character stuff. So they just give him jobs everyone knows won’t stick Instead of making every job a big status quo shakeup like, he's a CEO or a teacher or whatever, they should just make them a series of random entry level jobs or jobs he gets through connections that no one expects to last for very long. That would actually be relatable for young people. Peter Parker got a job driving a plow for the city. But then he got fired for not showing up to work, but a friend has launched a career as a country musician and Peter Parker is her manager! But her career took off and she got a professional manager, so Peter Parker is making some extra money as the Beer Baron.
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Apr 28, 2022 18:47
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The gig economy makes sense for Peter but for the reader it's a bit hollow if there's no central location or consistent supporting cast.
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Apr 28, 2022 19:00
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Lobok posted:The gig economy makes sense for Peter but for the reader it's a bit hollow if there's no central location or consistent supporting cast. You just have people also doing gig jobs that he runs into all the time.
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Apr 28, 2022 19:04
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Lobok posted:The gig economy makes sense for Peter but for the reader it's a bit hollow if there's no central location or consistent supporting cast. Who needs Peter, imagine how much money Spider-Man could make as an Uber!
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Apr 28, 2022 19:33
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Wasn’t there just a bit where Spidey was basically a streamer?
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Apr 28, 2022 19:40
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Splint Chesthair posted:Wasn’t there just a bit where Spidey was basically a streamer? The video game had a villian that was a streamer, you might be thinking of her
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Apr 28, 2022 19:41
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I liked the Slott run more than most people here, but what killed me for it was that it was too expensive to follow, either from the perspective of buying several issues a montht at the store or from the time I was spending on it on Unlimited, which considering my secondary problem was how fast they would just burn through stuff could have been alleviated on a more typical comic timeline.
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Apr 28, 2022 19:47
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Splint Chesthair posted:Wasn’t there just a bit where Spidey was basically a streamer? Yeah, there was a sponsorship deal with a wacky new costume as a part of Spencer's run.
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Apr 28, 2022 19:57
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Yeah, there was a sponsorship deal with a wacky new costume as a part of Spencer's run. Yes, with JJJ as his “guy in a chair,” no less. Is there some policy that every new writer on ASM means Spidey gets a new costume? Seems like it’s been that way since JMS. (Wow look at all those acronyms.)
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Apr 28, 2022 20:35
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Yeah costumes are the other gimmick but to be fair that goes way back. Like the X men changed their costumes constantly going back to the 80s
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Apr 28, 2022 20:38
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah costumes are the other gimmick but to be fair that goes way back. They changed their costumes a bunch even in the pre-Claremont era. https://twitter.com/MarvelADayProj/status/1518001772685631490?s=20&t=E6Prw0bw-HprB-S78-zkEQ
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i started reading Nocenti's run on daredevil and i get why it might not be someone's poo poo but it is EXTREMELY my poo poo. Daredevil trying to figure out his place between laws and morals while fighting for tenant's rights and against pollution is what I want to see in a comic. it's definitely a clear antecedent to what Zdarsky is doing with the character, but given that those are the only Daredevil authors I'm familiar with, I can't say how much of that is Nocenti.
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Apr 28, 2022 21:00
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That’s her thing. It’s pretty consistent among all her various works
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Apr 28, 2022 21:06
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Nocenti is one of the most underrated comics writers.
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Apr 28, 2022 21:12
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CharlestheHammer posted:That’s her thing. It’s pretty consistent among all her various works yeah, i came to this from her X-Men related stuff so I'm interested in seeing how she explores those themes with Daredevil the JRJR art is fantastic as well, she really gave him the chance to cut loose with dreamscapes and dynamic fights
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Apr 28, 2022 22:07
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Cloks posted:yeah, i came to this from her X-Men related stuff so I'm interested in seeing how she explores those themes with Daredevil The Longshot mini absolutely slaps. Just compelled to say this here, no doubt you're aware.
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I wish the X-Men swimsuit costumes had stuck around a little longer tbh. As it is I think they're just in the Swimsuit Special comics. EDIT: wait, I'm misremembering, Scott and I think Logan wore their costumes in an X-Men issue relatively recently when they were flirting with each other. Gologle fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Apr 28, 2022 |
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Scott, Logan and Jean just being a power throuple is easily my favorite thing about Krakoa.
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Nocenti's DD is my favorite DD run, I know there's a lot of competition but hers just speaks to me.
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Cloks posted:i started reading Nocenti's run on daredevil and i get why it might not be someone's poo poo but it is EXTREMELY my poo poo. Daredevil trying to figure out his place between laws and morals while fighting for tenant's rights and against pollution is what I want to see in a comic. It's a great follow-up to Miller's run. You're in for a treat. DD probably has the best Inferno tie-in under Nocenti, which is a higher bar than you'd think. Also FATBOYS FOR LIFE!
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Dawgstar posted:It's a great follow-up to Miller's run. You're in for a treat. DD probably has the best Inferno tie-in under Nocenti, which is a higher bar than you'd think. That's the one with a vacuum cleaner, right?
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Lol did angel just roll up on fools and shoot them with a revolver before professor x straightened him out or
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ilikedirt posted:Lol did angel just roll up on fools and shoot them with a revolver before professor x straightened him out or He has a loving bazooka on the cover of X-Men number 1.
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ilikedirt posted:Is there even a good modern run of spiderman that most people agree is good? There's a reason I'm one of those people who prefer ignoring most things Marvel has done in the main 616 continuity since the early to mid 90's Gripweed posted:Instead of making every job a big status quo shakeup like, he's a CEO or a teacher or whatever, they should just make them a series of random entry level jobs or jobs he gets through connections that no one expects to last for very long. That would actually be relatable for young people. Peter Parker got a job driving a plow for the city. But then he got fired for not showing up to work, but a friend has launched a career as a country musician and Peter Parker is her manager! But her career took off and she got a professional manager, so Peter Parker is making some extra money as the Beer Baron. At this point just have him be a photographer again, it was his main civilian job for like 40 years, no reason he can't take it up again Skwirl posted:They changed their costumes a bunch even in the pre-Claremont era. Honestly that costume is fine except for the yellow shorts Skwirl posted:Scott, Logan and Jean just being a power throuple is easily my favorite thing about Krakoa. Agreed ilikedirt posted:Lol did angel just roll up on fools and shoot them with a revolver before professor x straightened him out or From my recollection it's a "gas gun" Skwirl posted:He has a loving bazooka on the cover of X-Men number 1. It's actually just supposed to be a metal pillar
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drrockso20 posted:
No it's not, or at least Jack Kirby didn't get the memo about that.
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Skwirl posted:That's the one with a vacuum cleaner, right? That one's good. It's the power outage one I was thinking of, though.
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Angel's gun shot out little balls of knockout gas and Professor X made him give it up because he was getting too cocky in his pre-joining- the-X-Men superheroing days. I have a vague memory of a retcon about it where the gas gave somebody cancer, maybe Cameron Hodge? maybe Angel's uncle, the (other) Dazzler? the second one feels very "John Byrne did this in The Hidden Years" to me but I can't bring myself to read that book again to check.
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Karma Tornado posted:Angel's gun shot out little balls of knockout gas and Professor X made him give it up because he was getting too cocky in his pre-joining- the-X-Men superheroing days. I have a vague memory of a retcon about it where the gas gave somebody cancer, maybe Cameron Hodge? maybe Angel's uncle, the (other) Dazzler? the second one feels very "John Byrne did this in The Hidden Years" to me but I can't bring myself to read that book again to check. Don't think it was Hodge. He was jealous of Warren being in the 1% and that fueled him deciding all mutants were bad and making The Right. Then he made a deal with N'astirh trading immortality for a little light mutant trafficking. Then things got complicated. That absolutely does sound like a Hidden Years thing, though.
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Dawgstar posted:That one's good. It's the power outage one I was thinking of, though. That was the Fall of the Mutants tie-in, wasn't it? That was probably my favorite issue out of all the FotM stuff. (And why in hell doesn't Marvel Unlimited have a Fall of the Mutants reading list?) edit for punctuation LennyBriscoCountyJr fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Apr 29, 2022 |
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LennyBriscoCountyJr posted:That was the Fall of the Mutants tie-in, wasn't it? That was probably my favorite issue out of all the FotM stuff. Oh, was it because of the power outage across the island that I think was related to something Apocalypse did? Fair enough. Still good.
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Yeah, I am really not feeling this Spider-Man arc. Honestly, it's mainly the peter and mj thing, nix that and I'd probably be mostly okay with this, but ugh.
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To be fair I haven’t seen anyone like it. Like they already did it in Slotts run, and that weird next chapter era right before JMS. It’s played out
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair I haven’t seen anyone like it. I do. I get why people are mad that Peter and MJ are not together after building up to that for the last 100 issues, but this is extremely more interesting. Peter's a bum, MJ is better off (and should get her solo title back).
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I do. I get why people are mad that Peter and MJ are not together after building up to that for the last 100 issues, but this is extremely more interesting. I mean if you want that, Dan Slott did it, BND did it, Howard Mackie did it in 99. Which is my biggest issue, we are just repeating poo poo we’ve seen for 20 years but with a lame mystery gimmick to try and spice it up. It’s just so tedious at this point
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I'm hopeful for this run, but I'm a big believer in Pete/MJ. It's just proper. Will wait and see. Plus I haven't read any of the Spencer run yet, and I think I may enjoy some of the early parts, if only for Ottley.
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Early Spencer is honestly the best SM since JMS. Even Kindred had good stuff in it. It’s a shame he went full Nick Spencer
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The first issue of the ASM run all setup, so while it's not exactly won me over, I could see it potentially going somewhere interesting That being said, I wish there had been some more interesting hooks than just "Peter hosed up, and we're not going to tell you why for a few issues".
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just realized I haven't done anything for my Chronological Marvel Reading Project in a while, so I'm back with the next five issues(see my post history for previous entries); Tales to Astonish #43: this was a fun little issue, again less so for Ant-Man himself(though there's a neat bit early in the issue where he gets all shy when a crowd notices him and wants to get autographs and interviews from him) and more for it's "villain" the Time Master whose sympathetic story has a surprisingly happy ending for an early Marvel villain Tales of Suspense #41: in this story we see the first character to use the name Doctor Strange, this one being a mad scientist wanting world domination, probably the most interesting things about this issue are 1) we get a "superhero gets hypnotized into helping the villain" plot where everyone immediately realizes Iron Man has been put into a trance and thus not directly at blame(rather than thinking he's turned to evil or something), and 2) the story makes a big fuss about Doctor Strange being this huge world ending threat and then he just completely disappears until they brought him back for The Marvels last year(though I haven't read that series yet so I don't know the context of his appearance there) Journey Into Mystery #93: man this was a silly issue, though unlike a lot of the Communist threats in Early Marvel, the Radio-Active Man was at least somewhat interesting as a concept(if incredibly goofy and probably mildly racist), also Thor basically nuked China at the end of this story The Amazing Spider-Man #3: the debut of Doctor Octopus is a pretty strong one overall, including some great art by Ditko in making Doc Ock look rather creepy and menacing in a lot of panels, also yet another legendary typo in this issue when Otto calls Spider-Man Super-Man in one panel Strange Tales #109: another solo Human Torch story that's mostly carried by it's villain, this time The Sorcerer a mystically inclined kook who commits crimes using the Evils stored inside Pandora's Box, all drawn wonderfully by Jack Kirby overall an entertaining batch of issues and once again the covers for these issues;     
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I do. I get why people are mad that Peter and MJ are not together after building up to that for the last 100 issues, but this is extremely more interesting. Felicia Hardy deserves to get some Spider-dick while they're split up.
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