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Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

lazily paraphrasing tweets in CSPAM is hardly unique

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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

"I don't make fun of a movie unless I see it first" - somebody somewhere on this forum apparently

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

that makes u a bitch

wow. uncalled for

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006


Doxxing is permabannable hth

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

indigi posted:

yeah, I guess I’d say my most unique trait is judging whether or not I might like a movie by that movie’s promotional material
hate 2 say it but.........

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

that makes u a bitch

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

19 year old who is way too high to care waving through the Nazi with a bowl of raw chuck and a mead horn

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I always assumed raw meat guys ate it with their hands, not with a spoon. are they allowed to put salt/pepper on it

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
The vikings were a pre-Marxist anti-imperialist movement attempting to prevent the rise of European colonialism, by creating a cordon sanitaire around Europe and settling the North Atlantic islands that other Europeans could've used to hop to the Americas. This was a direct response to Franco-Christian imperialism, genocide and religious persecution.

Unfortunately, the imperial influence of France eventually corrupted not only the vikings outside of Scandinavia, but also their homelands. With their prison wardens corrupted, Europe exploded unto the world stage in an orgy of blood and suffering that has yet to subside.

While this tragedy is not something people think of consciously, they feel it on a deep emotional level, which is why viking stuff resonates so hard with people. In conclusion, the vikings were proto-Maoist, and thus any media that glorifies their (pre-Christian) exploits is socialist.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Were all the Norman states outside Scandinavia not imperialist colonies?

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
The Norman kingdom of Sicily = South Africa pre-1994

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
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Like I said, they were corrupted by the French, hence them being called Norman.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

vikings are poc

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Were all the Norman states outside Scandinavia not imperialist colonies?

There was no Norman central HQ to which all their lucre was being funneled to, so by definition no. You might call them settler states if you want to stretch it, but they didn't really do that either. The Normans blended in with local elites everywhere they conquered and settled rather than trying to transform them into new Viking colonies. A settler state seeks to transplant natives by replacing them with settlers from the home nation, and if they can't do that then they'll "settle" (heh) for a racial hierarchy. The Normans would end up adopting local customs, tradition, and language.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

A Buttery Pastry posted:

The vikings were a pre-Marxist anti-imperialist movement attempting to prevent the rise of European colonialism, by creating a cordon sanitaire around Europe and settling the North Atlantic islands that other Europeans could've used to hop to the Americas. This was a direct response to Franco-Christian imperialism, genocide and religious persecution.

Unfortunately, the imperial influence of France eventually corrupted not only the vikings outside of Scandinavia, but also their homelands. With their prison wardens corrupted, Europe exploded unto the world stage in an orgy of blood and suffering that has yet to subside.

While this tragedy is not something people think of consciously, they feel it on a deep emotional level, which is why viking stuff resonates so hard with people. In conclusion, the vikings were proto-Maoist, and thus any media that glorifies their (pre-Christian) exploits is socialist.
this

also its very funny they were very sanitary and well-groomed unlike the diseased unwashed masses of imperial europe who were all loving their pigs and rolling around in poo poo. they were also feminists unlike the reactionary misogynist imperial core.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I think what really enamors people about vikings is that they're basically "like us" racially or culturally speaking, but because they were pagan that also makes them alien and exotic. Their values also act as a lens through which the viewer can enjoy all the carnage they got up to without guilt, because their fun can be your fun with the distance of a millennia.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
what if you're enamored because they worship hot big titty immortal warriors than lame rear end jesus and his failfriends of lot and moses. oh bloo bloo i got betrayed and strung up on a wooden post qq. judeochristian is so boring

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Who bought Varg an account?

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Xaris posted:

they were also feminists unlike the reactionary misogynist imperial core.

Feminists, who had female slaves. That they raped.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

No, I think they regularly invited slaves to join them for a threesome with their wives, as depicted on the TV show Vikings.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Alhazred posted:

Feminists, who had female slaves. That they raped.

Vikings also practiced capital punishment, which is barbaric and wrong, but the ways they practiced it were totally badass. So, land of contrasts and all that.

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Who bought Varg an account?

euronymous

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Filthy Hans posted:

Vikings also practiced capital punishment, which is barbaric and wrong, but the ways they practiced it were totally badass. So, land of contrasts and all that.

It's actually kinda controversial if blood eagle were a thing or just something that was invented later. There's little evidence for it ever happening except for the sagas and even there it's not clear what it is. Capital punishment also weren't that common in viking age, it was much more common to declare someone an outlaw or make them pay a fine.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

AC Valhalla was an incredibly dull game and i hope we manage to move past this cultural moment where a bunch of white people are into viking poo poo

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Also every single people has this idea that there's a less civilized people that existed in the past that were more virtuous and interesting in some way. Daily life is boring. People are lovely. Obviously in times gone by, people must have been less lovely, and daily life must've been less boring. Every culture has had these beliefs, every place humans have lived, regardless of ethnicity or location. The recent Viking poo poo is just more of the same

In every time people invent stories to make life more exciting and explain/justify the existing social conditions

Eggers needs to make a QAnon movie

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
The Safdies need to make a QAnon movie

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Vikings were just another Germanic speaking group raiding "roman" Europe, but they were a few hundred years later than the rest so none of the lands were great to conquer and doing real trade meant going all the way to Mediterranean

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
Like gently caress whatever January 6th movies are currently being made I want an Uncut Gems about the 24h after "storming the capitol" where some QAnon streamer realizes the huge pile of poo poo he's just landed himself in

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Good Time, but it's Rudy Giuliani

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
Wife finished Ozarks last night, shout out to whoever did their music licensing for having at least one banger track every episode.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Good Time, but it's Rudy Giuliani

Yes! Yes!!

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Xaris posted:

this

also its very funny they were very sanitary and well-groomed unlike the diseased unwashed masses of imperial europe who were all loving their pigs and rolling around in poo poo. they were also feminists unlike the reactionary misogynist imperial core.

nah

"They are the filthiest of God's creatures. They have no modesty in defecation and urination, nor do they wash after pollution from orgasm, nor do they wash their hands after eating. Thus they are like wild asses.

Every day they must wash their faces and heads and this they do in the dirtiest and filthiest fashion possible: to wit, every morning a girl servant brings a great basin of water; she offers this to her master and he washes his hands and face and his hair -- he washes it and combs it out with a comb in the water; then he blows his nose and spits into the basin. When he has finished, the servant carries the basin to the next person, who does likewise. She carries the basin thus to all the household in turn, and each blows his nose, spits, and washes his face and hair in it."

-Ahmad Ibn Fadlan 922 ce

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN
wait till you read what he says about slave girls and live burials and tell me if you still think the Vikings were Feminists

http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ibn_fdln.shtml

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот
viqueen

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

vikinganswerlady.com

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

War and Pieces posted:

nah

"They are the filthiest of God's creatures. They have no modesty in defecation and urination, nor do they wash after pollution from orgasm, nor do they wash their hands after eating. Thus they are like wild asses.

Every day they must wash their faces and heads and this they do in the dirtiest and filthiest fashion possible: to wit, every morning a girl servant brings a great basin of water; she offers this to her master and he washes his hands and face and his hair -- he washes it and combs it out with a comb in the water; then he blows his nose and spits into the basin. When he has finished, the servant carries the basin to the next person, who does likewise. She carries the basin thus to all the household in turn, and each blows his nose, spits, and washes his face and hair in it."

-Ahmad Ibn Fadlan 922 ce
Like anyone should listen to what's essentially a millennia old NYT opinion piece. At least the stories of vikings being too darn hygienic and sexy for English women to resist is told by the people made to look bad in the stories, making it far more trustworthy.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Like anyone should listen to what's essentially a millennia old NYT opinion piece. At least the stories of vikings being too darn hygienic and sexy for English women to resist is told by the people made to look bad in the stories, making it far more trustworthy.

frankly in 922, baghdad was the imperial core and anything this "historian" wrote is inherently suspect

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Like anyone should listen to what's essentially a millennia old NYT opinion piece. At least the stories of vikings being too darn hygienic and sexy for English women to resist is told by the people made to look bad in the stories, making it far more trustworthy.

one can simultaneously be too hygienic for the English and not hygienic enough for the Arabs, see for example the Italians

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

War and Pieces posted:

one can simultaneously be too hygienic for the English and not hygienic enough for the Arabs, see for example the Italians

it’s North Africa, they were just getting by without their pasta water rations

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

shrike82 posted:

vikinganswerlady.com

ok have a less cringy source

https://en.natmus.dk/historical-kno...man-sacrifices/

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

AnimeIsTrash posted:

imagine if judakel was not banned @_@

he’s probably still here

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