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FirstAidKite posted:Do you mean Dear Esther? I do, you’re right. 
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abigserve posted:The Closing Shift is a bizarrely compelling short horror game and I'd recommend it. I watched a John Wolfe playthrough, and that was fine.
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lurker2006 posted:Can indie devs collectively agree to retire the damaged vhs aesthetic? i like it because it reminds me of vhs
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FirstAidKite posted:The worst is when there is no reason for it to be there, not even the slightest reason given for why your character is walking around looking through a camcorder. Is there a reason why the looks needs to exist, though? It can just be an aesthetic, in the same way that black and white games aren't filmed on monochromatic film.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Is there a reason why the looks needs to exist, though? It can just be an aesthetic, in the same way that black and white games aren't filmed on monochromatic film. Its an aesthetic that "needs to exist" a whole hell of a lot more than the aesthetic that's going on in your avatar
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Apr 23, 2022 16:54
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People should make things with good art and who gives a poo poo if a VHS filter is part of that. It's one of the best ways of evoking a certain vibe, and people continue to do good things with it.
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The post was oddly (or just poorly) worded but I'm pretty sure it was misread - the question was "why does an aesthetic need justification?"
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Hakkesshu posted:Instead of Martha is Dead more people should check out Who's Lila? That game is creepy AF this game is incredible, thanks for the recommendation
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CuddleCryptid posted:Is there a reason why the looks needs to exist, though? It can just be an aesthetic, in the same way that black and white games aren't filmed on monochromatic film. Black & White has a lot of history as being an aesthetic used for a variety of things for the player's sake, informing the player so they can interpret it to be that you're playing as something not human or that you're playing something in the past or experiencing a flashback or some other kind of thing. VHS effects are also used a lot but often in ways that don't match up with what they are visual shorthand for. VHS effects are generally a kind of shorthand that can mean, but is not limited to, "the player is playing something schlocky and old" like a very overused uncared for movie tape, or "what the player is looking at is footage from a camera," and things like that. It's fine when it's used for those reasons, I'm just not a fan of when a game does stuff like having the player HUD has camcorder elements to it when the character isn't even holding a camera.
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It kind of reminds of when devs use atari era pixelation when they're trying to invoke nostalgia for something as late as a 90s sierra point and click, at least in that case there's probably a practical justification for it.
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:Its an aesthetic that "needs to exist" a whole hell of a lot more than the aesthetic that's going on in your avatar  please explain this + your username reflecting an infamous child predator
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Bogart posted:
The answer to both is "cspam," and there's probably not much more explanation that warrants the time it would take
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VHS also functions for development or design purposes as well, in a manner similar to the fog in silent hill- it obscures technical limitations and just limits player information, which can add uncertainty. This last aspect in particular can be very powerful in horror.
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honestly I havent played a horror game in years. I don't know if the walking simulator genre is dead yet.
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Genres never die, they ebb and flow
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Discendo Vox posted:VHS also functions for development or design purposes as well, in a manner similar to the fog in silent hill- it obscures technical limitations and just limits player information, which can add uncertainty. This last aspect in particular can be very powerful in horror. Yeah a lot of it is this. I like Closing Shift (including the thematic meaning of the ending) but if it didn't have the filter it would look like hot garbage because the textures are super low res. It's okay though because it just looks like the VHS filter is doing it.
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I am unabashedly the target audience for any kind of VHS filter, analog horror nonsense. I'm just a sucker for anything lo-fi, and I'll take lovely looking horror with visual filters over something polished and semi-realistic like Visage any day. Hell, The Last Door is about as lo-fi as you can possibly get and still have visuals, and there are some genuinely creepy moments in that, imo. I get how people can get burnt out on a particular look, though, so I understand why the VHS filter could turn people off at this point. Like any other interesting idea in horror games, it was bound to be driven into the ground.
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I like "lovely" looking (PS1ish) games it works especially well for horror but sometimes the VHS filter is goofy.
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MockingQuantum posted:The answer to both is "cspam," and there's probably not much more explanation that warrants the time it would take you could try "At the January 6th incident in Washington DC, a man got his balls tazered and had a heart attack"
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Regarde Aduck posted:you could try "At the January 6th incident in Washington DC, a man got his balls tazered and had a heart attack" his balls caught fire and exploded
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tired: VHS filter from every Puppet Combo game ever wired: "early digital on dumb clip show" filter from Kane and Lynch 2: Dog Days whaley posted:his balls caught fire and exploded experts say they may have been red barrels
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There's a thing I see in several games trying to ape the ps1 aesthetic where they just make the textures warp as much as possible when you get near them. Did any ps1 games even have texture warping that bad? I swear it wasn't that bad but it gets so overexaggerated it just makes the effect look worse most times I've seen it. Like, not every ps1 game had textures that turned just stretched wide into infinity when you looked at them wrong, right??
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FirstAidKite posted:There's a thing I see in several games trying to ape the ps1 aesthetic where they just make the textures warp as much as possible when you get near them. Did any ps1 games even have texture warping that bad? I swear it wasn't that bad but it gets so overexaggerated it just makes the effect look worse most times I've seen it. Like, not every ps1 game had textures that turned just stretched wide into infinity when you looked at them wrong, right?? Maybe not as bad as you are thinking, but I rember certain games having floating point calculations such that even if you weren't moving, textures around you would shudder and twitch constantly
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Texture warp is just distracting unless it's selectively applied and manipulated to achieve very deliberate effects.
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I like how it's done in this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2mUEaRyktg
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Heilwald Loophole is a fun game, it’s basically Wario Land 3 as an indie horror I highly recommend it. FirstAidKite posted:There's a thing I see in several games trying to ape the ps1 aesthetic where they just make the textures warp as much as possible when you get near them. Did any ps1 games even have texture warping that bad? I swear it wasn't that bad but it gets so overexaggerated it just makes the effect look worse most times I've seen it. Like, not every ps1 game had textures that turned just stretched wide into infinity when you looked at them wrong, right?? The PlayStation architecture actually subdivided the geometry dynamically the closer it is to the camera which is why texture warping isn’t as common as our memories make it out to be. It’s really noticeable in third person over-the-shoulder games like Tenchu.
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Skyscraper posted:tired: VHS filter from every Puppet Combo game ever The buffering loading screens and general glitchy artifacted aesthetic was the best part of that game
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Improbable Lobster posted:The buffering loading screens and general glitchy artifacted aesthetic was the best part of that game each loading screen had a GSM buzz looking at a bright light would make a column of light on the screen and i'm such a nerd it reminded me of when people would post video clips from their cameras in GBS back in the day
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I played through the closing shift today and liked it though I wish it was longer and had more actual ghosts and creepy haunting stuff
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al-azad posted:Heilwald Loophole is a fun game, it’s basically Wario Land 3 as an indie horror I highly recommend it. It's a riot.
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I'm hoping the Medium is a bad game, because it keeps crashing every five minutes and I think I'm done. I have a pretty beefy PC, too.
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Professor Wayne posted:I'm hoping the Medium is a bad game, because it keeps crashing every five minutes and I think I'm done. I have a pretty beefy PC, too. hahahahaha oh buddy is it
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Yeah, I had heard things. Guess I'll go with Tormented Souls
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Professor Wayne posted:I'm hoping the Medium is a bad game, because it keeps crashing every five minutes and I think I'm done. I have a pretty beefy PC, too. A true hero of a game, giving its all to save you from itself 
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al-azad posted:Heilwald Loophole is a fun game, it’s basically Wario Land 3 as an indie horror I highly recommend it. They should put that on the box.
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Professor Wayne posted:I'm hoping the Medium is a bad game, because it keeps crashing every five minutes and I think I'm done. I have a pretty beefy PC, too. I think only one guy in this thread likes it and they liken everyone else who does not care for it as screaming harpies
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Tbh I liked the first third of the game, and then you hit uh *gestures* and the plot goes very downhill. Also starts doing too long walking sequences
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Professor Wayne posted:I'm hoping the Medium is a bad game, because it keeps crashing every five minutes and I think I'm done. I have a pretty beefy PC, too. Yeah, its split screen stuff with the spirit world is what kills the performance, so even really beefy computers have problems. Also, the story has a character turn into a pedo because of the Holocaust.
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I did some googling, and it turns out Blooper released a patch last year that destroyed performance on high-end PCs. I guess I ended up dodging a bullet. I played Tormented Souls for a few hours last night. It's not perfect, but it's doing a really good job of scratching that old-style RE itch.
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