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Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Look up the Brandon Mayfield case. An American Muslim-convert lawyer in Portland got linked to the 2004 Madrid bombing because his fingerprint got erroneously identified on some of the evidence. It really shook up the way people looked at fingerprint evidence.

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jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire
From the RLM GBS thread:


edit - being the failson of an extremely successful union-busting hollywood lawyer apparently has its perks

jeeves fucked around with this message at 04:10 on May 2, 2022

Pascallion
Sep 15, 2003
Man, what the fuck, man?
Sounds like a pass for me. There are a lot of critiques of how New Trek betrays the heart of Trek that I agree with in principle, but I’d pretty readily forgive those if I thought the writing was any good.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
To be fair, that’s one of the one or two negative reviews in a sea of very positive reviews.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Picard and Discovery suck poo poo, yet I keep watching them. You think clanging dialogue and dodgy plotting will stop me?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

HD DAD posted:

To be fair, that’s one of the one or two negative reviews in a sea of very positive reviews.

The reviews tend to skew along the lines of "Well, it's really great to have a bright-looking show, with fun characters, and an episodic style," but then somewhere near the end say, "But, eh, by the way, the stories themselves kind of stink. But, hey, it's a nice start!"

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
Also keep in mind that with the positive reviews, those are the outlets that will always say good things about everything so they don't lose access to preview screenings and swag.

Pascallion
Sep 15, 2003
Man, what the fuck, man?
Also, a bitter review from a snob is likely trustworthy for me, a bitter snob.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Kibayasu posted:

Watching that scene more recently makes me think more along the lines of “God drat Joseph you just went straight to ‘drain all of someone’s blood’ really quickly.”

It is funny when you have time to think about it and arrive at things like that. Grandpa Sisko has clearly spent time working on the problem, because he did not just come up with that on the fly.

Maybe he was a secret Changeling!

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Kibayasu posted:

Watching that scene more recently makes me think more along the lines of “God drat Joseph you just went straight to ‘drain all of someone’s blood’ really quickly.”

I thought for a second we were in the jojo thread

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
Feet washing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q63pVjyzEQU

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
Dave Spock, works as the line supervisor at a window factory, spends his weekends woodworking, occasionally thinks about his brother the Starfleet science officer and wishes him well. Solid dude.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Sash! posted:

It is funny when you have time to think about it and arrive at things like that. Grandpa Sisko has clearly spent time working on the problem, because he did not just come up with that on the fly.

Maybe he was a secret Changeling!

Changlings spies might be able to perform brain surgery as needed but no one’s going to buy their Creole cooking.

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 5 days!)

jeeves posted:

From the RLM GBS thread:


edit - being the failson of an extremely successful union-busting hollywood lawyer apparently has its perks

new TV shows barrelling straight ahead with S2 before they get any feedback on whether their first try absolutely stank isn't the best idea.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




roomtone posted:

new TV shows barrelling straight ahead with S2 before they get any feedback on whether their first try absolutely stank isn't the best idea.

It seems like the new 10ish-episode-season standard means they don't really have a choice.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


melodrama??? in my star trek????/??

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Mx. posted:

melodrama??? in my star trek????/??

It's more common than you think.

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

MikeJF posted:

It seems like the new 10ish-episode-season standard means they don't really have a choice.

why make 24 episodes a season when you can split it in half and have two seasons to stretch out the content

Rynder
Mar 26, 2009
I finished Foundation and while it's such a waste of a premise and budget, it's pretty much a drawn out version of DS9s Statistical Probabilities.

Bashir even guest stars!

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Kibayasu posted:

Changlings spies might be able to perform brain surgery as needed but no one’s going to buy their Creole cooking.

Can changelings taste? I'm aware that they don't eat, so it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't have that sense. If you can't taste your own food, how are you going to know it's any good?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Most NuTrek is just time killing filler until Lower Decks comes back with another season.

"The good thing is coming soon, we promise"

But for sure NuTrek doesn't have the monopoly on stilted writing. As long as SNW can entertain me on some level more than the other live action shows do, it's a potential winner in my book.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I was skeptical about Lower Decks but when the second episode ended with the future classroom being taught that the most legendary person in Starfleet was Miles O'Brien, I knew it was the only good modern Trek.

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

Rynder posted:

I finished Foundation and while it's such a waste of a premise and budget, it's pretty much a drawn out version of DS9s Statistical Probabilities.

Bashir even guest stars!

I assume it was actually the other way around.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

roomtone posted:

new TV shows barrelling straight ahead with S2 before they get any feedback on whether their first try absolutely stank isn't the best idea.

Tiberius Christ posted:

why make 24 episodes a season when you can split it in half and have two seasons to stretch out the content

I think it's more of an evading regulation thing, because usually you'd have to pay more per season of a show, but it's common for streaming services to order one big season but cut it up after the fact.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

SlothfulCobra posted:

I think it's more of an evading regulation thing, because usually you'd have to pay more per season of a show, but it's common for streaming services to order one big season but cut it up after the fact.

It's also an oversaturation thing, their model is clearly to have new Trek every single week but they also have 5 shows.

Penitent
Jul 8, 2005

The Lemonade Man Can

God there was an astounding amount of horny energy just emanating off of everything in those early TNG episodes.

They should have hit Gene with a bucket of cold water every time he came into work.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

What, so you get to see his perky nipples under his wet dress shirt? I'll pass, he gets off on that too

Penitent
Jul 8, 2005

The Lemonade Man Can

Brawnfire posted:

What, so you get to see his perky nipples under his wet dress shirt? I'll pass, he gets off on that too

"It's like the eyes in one of those paintings... they just follow you around the room!"

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

PerniciousKnid posted:

I assume it was actually the other way around.

It was, Foundation was written in the 40's and that DS9 episode was a riff on it

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Brawnfire posted:

What, so you get to see his perky nipples under his wet dress shirt? I'll pass, he gets off on that too

Then he darts off to his typewriter to get his new idea for an entire aliens species that spends their whole lives in ice cold water, complete with diagrams depicting how their nipples react to temperature changes.

Rynder
Mar 26, 2009

Feldegast42 posted:

It was, Foundation was written in the 40's and that DS9 episode was a riff on it

I knew it was a book before but I guess I meant that the episode was a better adaptation of the idea of psychohistory in one decent episode, rather than the teen drama drivel the series was.

Also what's up with that one lady genetically enhanced reject? One of the side effects to being genetically enhanced is being horny all the time? She seemed pretty normal even with that weird quirk they gave her

Rynder fucked around with this message at 22:04 on May 2, 2022

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Rynder posted:

I knew it was a book before but I guess I meant that the episode was a better adaptation of the idea of psychohistory in one decent episode, rather than the teen drama drivel the series was.

Also what's up with that one lady genetically enhanced reject? One of the side effects to being genetically enhanced is being horny all the time? She seemed pretty normal even with that weird quirk they gave her

I didn't watch the series but lol, the novels had none of that in there

The novels themselves are actually fairly dry, the narrative is far more about exploring the idea of psychohistory (I.E. you can predict the progression of civilization on a very large scale using sociological data or not) and if history progresses by large scale movements versus great men. There are some pretty good characters that pop up but they are only there to drive the plot rather than explore their sex lives

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Rynder posted:

Also what's up with that one lady genetically enhanced reject? One of the side effects to being genetically enhanced is being horny all the time? She seemed pretty normal even with that weird quirk they gave her

It was the 90’s, no sane woman would be horny.

Real answer they were just hitting a bunch of the usual sanity tropes. You get conspiracy minded motor mouth, child-like easily manipulated and upset, over-sexed, and completely introverted.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






HD DAD posted:

To be fair, that’s one of the one or two negative reviews in a sea of very positive reviews.

After all this time, why should I be fair?

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcq3FG0GC_0

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

Welcome Back, Galaxy Geek.

What goes around...

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CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Apparently I've never actually watched my TNG S1 Blu-ray, because while watching "Haven", it's suddenly become obvious I never traded in my discs with the busted audio mix.

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