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RareAcumen posted:Disco Elysium is sounding a lot like a game that you're gonna bumble through hard on your first playthrough - How very in character for this RPG and protagonist- Yup. My recommendation is to pick two stat categories to heavily invest in, then do the exact opposite for your second run. There's just so much poo poo going on and so many things you likely won't even realize you can do until you try that out. Also you can kinda speedrun the whole thing since you'll have a better idea of what you should be gunning for. On my Motorics/Int run I managed to hop past the barricade to talk to Evrart basically first thing, got in contact with Joyce and pumped her for rent, shot down the body, performed the autopsy, figured out its secrets, and the only reason I didn't send the body off right away was because I wanted to get the boots and also was afraid it would skip the excellent first night review with Kim I could write essays about how loving good Kim is as a character, both on his own but also within the setting of the game and as a foil to the protagonist. It's a small thing, but I really loved the touch that Kim smokes exactly one cigarette a day (usually at night when he's reviewing his notes), and how that impresses Harry because it requires way more self control than not smoking at all. I also loved the morning after you recover from the tribunal when Kim wakes you up and lights up a cigarette. You can comment that you thought he only smoked one a day and he just responds "this is the one." Absolutely ice cold CJacobs posted:Yeah, Disco Elysium calling you boring is more about making you aware that you're not spreading out the web of feelers you should be in a mystery solving game. It's calling your gameplay routine, not you, which is why it's Boring Cop and not Boring Detective. Your gameplay sees you acting really normal i.e. self-railroaded and you may not realize you don't have to. Almost like the game is prodding you into remembering that you can selectively lie to others and personify yourself, not because it'll pigeonhole you into a playstyle, but because it's how you unlock further opportunities to interact in whatever way you want, even if you go back to being boring cop right after. I liked the resolution to that thought Regular Law Official posted:You've done it, Harry! Whatever else you are, you're also *boring* now. It was *not* easy. You've spent most of your life trying to funk up every nook and cranny of your personality. When someone says something political, the first three thoughts in your head are a ludicrous hodgepodge of communism, fascism and stock tips. When they ask you why you did something, it's superstardom, apocalypse, or the *mea culpas* of a flagellant cop monk. It's not easy, reaching for the fourth option -- the normal one. But you have. And now you're not *just* crazy, you're also *boring*. The fact that the bonus it gives you just increases the learning cap on all stats to a minimum of 3 is both not especially useful, but also is useful to exactly the kind of person who's trying to do everything by the books. The real comedy comes from the likelihood that someone who accidentally ends up becoming Boring Cop is also someone who probably started the game with 3 in all stats, rendering the positive bonus moot and making the thought bonus on the whole actively detrimental because it also gives you a minor penalty to Shivers and Inland Empire Kit Walker has a new favorite as of 21:37 on May 2, 2022 |
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I love that I was labeled a sorry cop, I legit felt sorry for poo poo people have had to deal with and it was mostly apparently being my (Harry's) bullshit
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TontoCorazon posted:I love that I was labeled a sorry cop, I legit felt sorry for poo poo people have had to deal with and it was mostly apparently being my (Harry's) bullshit I feel like Sorry Cop is super easy to fall into on a first playthrough because a good chunk of the game is finding out about things you've done and a lot of them really aren't great. I think it first popped for me when I was talking to Sylvie.
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I can safely say Disco Elysium is the only video game I’ve ever encountered that lets you roleplay as a gay alcoholic militant communist doomsday cultist wearing a jacket emblazoned with “piss(gamer word)”. I am fairly pleased with my first playthrough so far.
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And for reference, Boring Cop is considered a 'main' archetype by the game even though there aren't really any major things you can do with it. It changes some of your dialogue choices and allows you to call your fashion sense "regularcore" which is the best thing you can call it. It seems to be based on the type of person who sees participating in joy as hedonism because they've recently given up something that hurts them. You gain a lot of the early points in it for lecturing people about alcoholism or proclaiming that you're giving up drinking unnecessarily to people when you ALSO had the dialogue option to just say you'll pass. You can forgo opportunities out of the fear that alcohol might be present, or at least express worry about it. Let your reasoning for disposing of drugs and hazardous waste be that they won't bother people that way, not that their current presence could cause harm. Nearly all of your "You're welcome"s become a half-smiled "hey, just doing my job". You get at least A point if not more for saying, verbatim, "it doesn't matter what I think, it's not important if I liked the guy." If you trace a path through the dialogue choices over the course of your playthrough it ends up not JUST being about fitting in and playing your role, it's about poor boring cop fading into the background to avoid redoing the harm that he caused: "I don't have an opinion, because my opinions hurt people". CJacobs has a new favorite as of 22:12 on May 2, 2022 |
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i suppose the jacket has a gamer word on it, but not what is commonly understood as the gamer word
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Despite the fact that I've been playing Dark Souls since it came out I only just now found out about this amazing bit of dialogue if you attack the moss merchant in the waterway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcPDadbn8hc She just lays into you so hard and I love it. 
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:i suppose the jacket has a gamer word on it, but not what is commonly understood as the gamer word Ethics?
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Debunk This! posted:She just lays into you so hard and I love it. lmao I had no idea, she went on for so long
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I like that she has a single humanity in stock for you to buy and there's a single rat on the other end of the tunnel
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:i suppose the jacket has a gamer word on it, but not what is commonly understood as the gamer word You would be wrong. It’s blurred out though. Also It’s a nice touch that Kim thought it was a little funny at first but then took me aside to talk to be about my inappropriate dress after a little while. Frank Frank has a new favorite as of 00:07 on May 3, 2022 |
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I have but one regret in my playthrough of Disco Elysium and that is that I didn't get the boots.
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Morpheus posted:I have but one regret in my playthrough of Disco Elysium and that is that I didn't get the boots. Yeah I made a mental note to get them and just forgot
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Frank Frank posted:You would be wrong. It’s blurred out though. Also It’s a nice touch that Kim thought it was a little funny at first but then took me aside to talk to be about my inappropriate dress after a little while. The gamer word is the n-word. Pissf****t would never stoop to using racial slurs
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Kit Walker posted:The gamer word is the n-word. Pissf****t would never stoop to using racial slurs Oh I thought the gamer word was “f****t”. I’m actually pleased I got that wrong
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Oh no https://twitter.com/EvilBillMurray/status/1521291620385140736?t=lk150Rr_jf3zaiRmVOlheA&s=19 I think my run ends here because I can't make a decision this important
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Beautiful women are fleeting, Kim is forever
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Morpheus posted:Beautiful women are fleeting, Kim is forever She’s also allegedlya sexual assault victim so it’s really not much of a “finger guns” mood up there on the roof.
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I've been playing The Stanley Parable  I don't think I have the willpower to ever start up the game again and change that.
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I think the Disco Elysium decision that's probably an unflattering reflection on my real self involves the whole thing with the church on the coast. I assumed I could either let the researcher or the EDM crew do their thing with it, not that they could coexist there, and so had the EDM crew hauled off. Maybe there's a point how just thinking like a cop there closed off options for me. The moment I missed because of it is definitely a candidate for this thread.
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https://twitter.com/EvilBillMurray/status/1521323030391132160?t=Az6DoX9g9OA7ZYdI5KeEhA&s=19 Poor Kim. He did not sign up for my bullshit Also his voice actor just sounds so tired. That's the tone I would take with children when I worked in childcare
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being a perpetually exasperated killjoy is a privilege that Kim fought for his whole career and he will not give it up easily
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You can finish the game without unlocking a single achievement or ever having an archetype and the game doesn't really get what you're doing or, I guess, if we're arguing about out art farts that that means its the only playstyle endorsed by the game because it never detracts you for your choices. Edit: I also hosed up the ending so badly because it did not seem to understand at all what I wanted to do it triggered a fail state auto victory so thanks game
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Len posted:Also his voice actor just sounds so tired. That's the tone I would take with children when I worked in childcare Makes a lot of sense considering he spent years working undercover as a juvenile. He is not particularly fond of those years. DE is kinda like Undertale in that many of its conventions and design choices kinda deliberately gently caress with the expectations of a player who's used to video games, RPGs in particular. Both call for a change of perspective compared to mainstream titles, with Undertale keeping track of everything you do and rubbing it in your face, while Disco Elysium calls more for letting the dice fall as they may and letting you set your own priorities.
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i'd argue a lot of rpgs want you to do the latter, it's just that usually they're not very good at it (especially in videogames, as a casualty of the medium)
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In Deep Rock Galactic there's a bar you can get drinks at between missions, usually for the one beer that'll give you a buff in the next mission. There's a tip jar for the robot bartender that you can actually put credits into. It doesn't do anything other than making your dwarf thank the bartender, but I can't resist doing it every time
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Dr Christmas posted:I think the Disco Elysium decision that's probably an unflattering reflection on my real self involves the whole thing with the church on the coast. I assumed I could either let the researcher or the EDM crew do their thing with it, not that they could coexist there, and so had the EDM crew hauled off. Maybe there's a point how just thinking like a cop there closed off options for me. The moment I missed because of it is definitely a candidate for this thread. I hope you felt awful.
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Len posted:https://twitter.com/EvilBillMurray/status/1521323030391132160?t=Az6DoX9g9OA7ZYdI5KeEhA&s=19 My favorite Kim moments so far were when I found a children’s ABC book, read it and excitedly told him “I know my ABCs!” - also the entirety of the cryptid arc where I went all-in on believing in cryptids really irked him.
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There's a lot of ways that the relationship between the PC and Kim can work out, though I did like the bit where you can be totally honest with him as he figures out he's really not faking the amnesia. (You can at one point claim it was fake, but it's really not) It is fun when they basically have a mature conversation, both wondering what the gently caress is up with him and the whole situation- Kim is getting to know the protagonist along with the player and the protagonist himself. There's a lot of stuff that's more obvious in retrospect- the game's big on options but some things are conspicuous by their absence. Visual Calculus at a decent level represents a frankly superhuman ability to analyse a scene, notice small details, and fit them together to a full on Sherlock Holmes degree. The player character can figure out that a car parked by the Whirling-In-Rags was recklessly taken off, ramped off a building and crashed into an ice floe, and on finding the car, recognises that it's a police car putting together a sequence of unlikely but demonstrably real events, and is completely oblivious to that the prime suspect for doing so is himself, and it's his patrol car until Kim flat out says so. There's iirc no option to even suggest it.
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Debunk This! posted:Despite the fact that I've been playing Dark Souls since it came out I only just now found out about this amazing bit of dialogue if you attack the moss merchant in the waterway. That would have to be the single longest dialogue in any soulsborne game. Surprised they didn't make you click a prompt 20 times for it.
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What's great about Kim is that he really nails that sweetspot where he's the straight man and mature adult of the duo so he gets to be exasperated by your antics but at the same time he acknowledges that sometimes it works to your advantage so he's also not there to spoil your fun as a player. Plus then on the rare occasion where he can really and truly get fed up with you it has real impact.
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christmas boots posted:What's great about Kim is that he really nails that sweetspot where he's the straight man and mature adult of the duo so he gets to be exasperated by your antics but at the same time he acknowledges that sometimes it works to your advantage so he's also not there to spoil your fun as a player. Plus then on the rare occasion where he can really and truly get fed up with you it has real impact. kim can cuss you out exactly once that i know of and it does both health and morale damage
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Oxxidation posted:kim can cuss you out exactly once that i know of and it does both health and morale damage it also has in-game effects!
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This implies that Kim can actually cuss you to death which feels both fair and deserved
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I know theoretically failing the authority check in the church and calling Kim a slur might be seen as the worst thing you to can do Kim, but personally I think the worst thing I ever did was call into his favorite radio station, say a bunch of fascist poo poo that made everyone mad at me, then ask the DJ to give a shout out to my best friend Kim Kitsuragi, at which point the DJ told us both, on the air, to gently caress off and never listen to his show again
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If I ever play through DE again with the intention of completionism, I'm going to find a list of things that will get me the 'Kim hates you' trophy, do them in quick succession, then immediately load my game, because ain't no way I'm doing a playthrough where he's not my bff
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The Stanley Parable/Ultra Deluxe there's an achievement/trophy for clicking on a specific door 5 times. When you click on the door more than once the Narrator starts chastising you for doing something only to get an achievement and starts adding in new tasks for you to do before finally having you click on the door five more times which then gives you the achievement.
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On one hand, Kim is the best sidekick character in any RPG. On the other hand, he is a Cop, a Bastard by definition. Harry is a Bastard, and that is why he is a Cop.
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