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If I had to take a flight that long I'd spring for business class at a minimum since I cannot, for the life of me, sleep sitting upright.
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They need on board medical marijuana. Whole plane just chill and watching TV for 20 hours.
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May 2, 2022 14:35
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I have a friend that's currently on the DFW to Sydney flight and that's 16.5 hours. At that point, what's another 3.5 hours?
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May 2, 2022 14:50
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Warbird posted:Wasn’t there some moron that landed his chopper at a Dairy Queen a few months back? I think I remember them pulling his license. BIG HEADLINE posted:If I had to take a flight that long I'd spring for business class at a minimum since I cannot, for the life of me, sleep sitting upright. 
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May 2, 2022 14:55
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They are flying A350-1000s on that route which will be equipped with only 238 seats (in 4 classes). A typical 2-class A350-1000 seats 369. For comparison the narrow body A321 can hold 240 in an all economy layout. They also say these planes will have "a wellbeing zone in the centre of the plane - with a self-service snack bar and space for stretching and movement".
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May 2, 2022 15:14
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Yeah, there are already renders of the "wellbeing zone" and it just kinda looks like a "stretching nook." https://onemileatatime.com/news/qantas-a350-first-class-suite/
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May 2, 2022 15:18
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slidebite posted:Yeah, I think that was in Saskatchewan last year. He was charged, but I don't know what happened there. Have you tried noise-canceling headphones? They made a significant difference for me trying to sleep on the 15 hour flights between JFK to Taiwan. It was especially noticeable since I had done the flight without them a couple of years prior and the flight from JFK took off at 1AM so I was eager to get to sleep once we were in the air. We were flying Premium Economy class so the seats were only okay. Then again, I've gotten used to sleeping while sitting up from years of commuting into Midtown Manhattan on commuter trains.
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May 2, 2022 15:25
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In-flight internet is a godsend as well, even if the bandwidth is only good enough for something like Slack and basic browsing/shitposting at FL410. I still remember getting looks on Alaska trans-con when the bandwidth was decent enough to play Hearthstone with the occasional DC/RC. Also, offline games like Seedship can burn tons of time as well.
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May 2, 2022 15:30
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Just make those sleep pods from the fifth element already
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May 2, 2022 15:35
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FunOne posted:They need on board medical marijuana. Whole plane just chill and watching TV for 20 hours. I'm picturing a new 'smoking section' where the attendants just pull a curtain across the back of the plane and smoke starts billowing out ala Cheech and Chong. The volume of conversation picks up for 30 minutes and then the attendants just fling a couple flats of chips into the back and start a movie on loop and then silence for the rest of the flight.
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May 2, 2022 15:38
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Murgos posted:I'm picturing a new 'smoking section' where the attendants just pull a curtain across the back of the plane and smoke starts billowing out ala Cheech and Chong. The volume of conversation picks up for 30 minutes and then the attendants just fling a couple flats of chips into the back and start a movie on loop and then silence for the rest of the flight. Quantas inaugurates Choom Class!
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May 2, 2022 15:53
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bull3964 posted:I have a friend that's currently on the DFW to Sydney flight and that's 16.5 hours. In my experience each hour above about 8 hours feels like 1.5 hours, and each hour above about 12 hours feels like 2. not having been on a flight above about 14.5 hours I cannot speak to the time after this point, but I imagine the last few hours are excruciating.
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May 2, 2022 15:56
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Yeah, there are already renders of the "wellbeing zone" and it just kinda looks like a "stretching nook." It’s still very important because you have to stay within your own class of service for some international flights and on a 4 class plane that could get kinda claustrophobic
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May 2, 2022 15:59
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BIG HEADLINE posted:In-flight internet is a godsend as well, even if the bandwidth is only good enough for something like Slack and basic browsing/shitposting at FL410. Pre-Vid this was my solution for DFW-HKG which is 16ish hours on the block. That ~20 bucks for whole-flight internet is VERY worth it.
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May 2, 2022 16:07
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Jesus Christ are they just going to sedate the people in economy class. I can't seel in anything that isn't my bed though so that's not going to be a factor anyway. In-flight internet would be great, I think I've been on one or two flights that even offered it though. Pretty weird that Ryanair and friends aren't milking $5 from everyone for an hour or two of connectivity. Does that really count as "messed up", then? vvvv mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 16:20 on May 2, 2022 |
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May 2, 2022 16:10
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FunOne posted:They need on board medical marijuana. Whole plane just chill and watching TV for 20 hours. I messed up with some edibles and ended up stoned on a transcontinental flight. It was very nice.
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May 2, 2022 16:13
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PainterofCrap posted:Quantas inaugurates Choom Class! Jamaican Airways suddenly a big international player
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May 2, 2022 16:45
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mobby_6kl posted:I've been on a 24+ hour bus trips before so this couldn't possibly be any worse than that.
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May 2, 2022 16:53
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hobbesmaster posted:Read the statement (and maybe the original video) with the angle “it is illegal to intend to land an aircraft there in regular operations without other permission because it’s not an aerodrome and is within 500 ft of houses”. But that's not illegal though?
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May 2, 2022 17:45
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mobby_6kl posted:I've been on a 24+ hour bus trips before so this couldn't possibly be any worse than that.
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May 2, 2022 18:06
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mobby_6kl posted:I've been on a 24+ hour bus trips before so this couldn't possibly be any worse than that. have you been on any really long flights to compare? at least for me, I can assure you a 20 hour flight would be significantly worse
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May 2, 2022 18:15
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I've done LA to Sydney and back in economy via Quantas. Maybe I'm some sort of flight pervert, but it was great. I just played video games and read books and napped and occasionally walked down the aisle to stretch while the flight attendants kept handing me beer, then coffee. Admittedly edibles would make it an even more fun experience, but I'd happily do it again tomorrow if it weren't for Covid. New York to Sydney doesn't seem like a significant increase in duration.
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May 2, 2022 18:32
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Loucks posted:I've done LA to Sydney and back in economy via Quantas. Maybe I'm some sort of flight pervert, but it was great. I just played video games and read books and napped and occasionally walked down the aisle to stretch while the flight attendants kept handing me beer, then coffee. Admittedly edibles would make it an even more fun experience, but I'd happily do it again tomorrow if it weren't for Covid. New York to Sydney doesn't seem like a significant increase in duration. 14 vs 20 hours? That's a shitload in my book. I've done 16 from Hong Kong to Chicago and I was ready to be the hell off that plane and I was in business and love to travel.
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May 2, 2022 23:03
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Edward IV posted:Have you tried noise-canceling headphones? They made a significant difference for me trying to sleep on the 15 hour flights between JFK to Taiwan. It was especially noticeable since I had done the flight without them a couple of years prior and the flight from JFK took off at 1AM so I was eager to get to sleep once we were in the air. We were flying Premium Economy class so the seats were only okay. Then again, I've gotten used to sleeping while sitting up from years of commuting into Midtown Manhattan on commuter trains. I don't know if it's a fully stretching out thing or what (3 years ago now) but I know I had a hard time on a train in a sleeper cabin too. I toss and turn a lot even on a bed. I couldn't imagine a 20hr flight. Germany to Vancouver is enough for me. I can't imagine to Australia non-stop. That would be brutal. hobbesmaster posted:It’s still very important because you have to stay within your own class of service for some international flights and on a 4 class plane that could get kinda claustrophobic I felt like grabbing him and bringing him up.But I didn't.
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Psion posted:have you been on any really long flights to compare? at least for me, I can assure you a 20 hour flight would be significantly worse
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Worth remembering that for those who live in Australia and NZ, super long haul is commonplace. Already we have Auckland to Dubai on Emirates and Doha with Qatar. both over 17 hours and AirNZ is introducing Auckland to New York soon at 17h35m. Yes, a break is nice, but given that for most of us the final destination is London or somewhere else in Europe, stopovers can quickly turn boost your total travel time. Sure, 3-6 hours is a common transfer time, but 8-12 hours isn't uncommon either, now your total travel time is more like 40 hours versus ~24 AKL-LHR.
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May 3, 2022 01:29
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mobby_6kl posted:The longest was FRA-SEA I think, almost 11 hours. It would be fine if I could actually sleep. Eat, sleep, wake up and you're there. I'm sure it gets worse but it's not like walking out side the bus for 5 minutes helps much anyway. it makes a very big difference imo
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Zero One posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1520710885911711745?s=21&t=d04XJrAlbDNsMHJKpAWPNQ Next time you're ferrying bees don't touch the Cursor Control Device...
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:In my experience each hour above about 8 hours feels like 1.5 hours, and each hour above about 12 hours feels like 2. not having been on a flight above about 14.5 hours I cannot speak to the time after this point, but I imagine the last few hours are excruciating. Having done SYD-DFW-JFK, I would absolutely take 3.5 more hours on the plane over having to get out, wait in line, clear customs, haul my bag to the re-check-in place, clear security again, wait two hours, and then get on an AA domestic flight for four more. Hell, I'd pay extra for the privilege. And not just because the QF plane has free booze and Tim-Tams. There's simply no way to make Oz to the US east coast, or Western Europe, not suck bar Concorde II. But the fewer steps in the process/things the traveler has to do in the middle of it, the less sucky.
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May 3, 2022 04:26
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I assume PER-LHR route ain't coming back then; too bad for me.
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Psion posted:have you been on any really long flights to compare? at least for me, I can assure you a 20 hour flight would be significantly worse I snapped my tailbone off when I slipped doing a giant-stride entry on a dive on a resort island in the Maldives. I flew from there to the Maldives international airport in Mali, from Mali to Sri Lanka to Dubai to London to Reykjavik to Seattle on a broken tailbone. My leg was purple from the interior bleeding, and there were no painkillers in the Maldives, of course. I sat on a red hot coal for forty hours in economy class with a few hours layover in between. I've been a little freaky on long plane flights ever since. My rear end literally still aches if I sit too long on a hard cushion, or at all.
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JohnCompany posted:Having done SYD-DFW-JFK, I would absolutely take 3.5 more hours on the plane over having to get out, wait in line, clear customs, haul my bag to the re-check-in place, clear security again, wait two hours, and then get on an AA domestic flight for four more. Hell, I'd pay extra for the privilege. And not just because the QF plane has free booze and Tim-Tams. oh don't get me wrong, I'll take the direct in all long haul circumstances but it just sucks, man
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DFW-Narita-Hanoi was no peach. The trip back was better thanks to a comped upgrade to Premium Economy for Hanoi-Narita (flight was 10 minutes late and a friend in the industry called in a favor), and I paid for that upgrade for Narita-DFW, plus lounge access. Never underestimate the positives of a shower and a nap room during a long-rear end trip.
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As someone who has a large amount of long flights (the worst being gate to gate of well over 40 hours) I welcome not having to spend time in airports. Job 1 is a powerful enough laptop to game on. Job 2 is comfortable headphones. Job 3 is a hard drive full of off-line games and TV shows you like. Job 4 is telling your gp and getting hella benzos. I used to be unable to sleep on planes until my 40 hour plus hellflight. Now I can fall asleep anywhere
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Kesper North posted:I snapped my tailbone off when I slipped doing a giant-stride entry on a dive on a resort island in the Maldives. I flew from there to the Maldives international airport in Mali, from Mali to Sri Lanka to Dubai to London to Reykjavik to Seattle on a broken tailbone. My leg was purple from the interior bleeding, and there were no painkillers in the Maldives, of course. I sat on a red hot coal for forty hours in economy class with a few hours layover in between. I've been a little freaky on long plane flights ever since. My rear end literally still aches if I sit too long on a hard cushion, or at all. My company’s travel policy has the note that business class can be purchased for flights over so many miles with a doctor’s note and I think you finally answered my question “what conditions is that policy even for”
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hobbesmaster posted:My company’s travel policy has the note that business class can be purchased for flights over so many miles with a doctor’s note and I think you finally answered my question “what conditions is that policy even for” Back issues, circulation issues, acute executivitis, diabetes…
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FrozenVent posted:Back issues, circulation issues, acute executivitis, diabetes… Acute DYKWIA
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FunOne posted:Acute DYKWIA It’s usually chronic.
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big dong wanter posted:As someone who has a large amount of long flights (the worst being gate to gate of well over 40 hours) I welcome not having to spend time in airports. Job 1 is a powerful enough laptop to game on. Job 2 is comfortable headphones. Job 3 is a hard drive full of off-line games and TV shows you like. Job 4 is telling your gp and getting hella benzos. I used to be unable to sleep on planes until my 40 hour plus hellflight. Now I can fall asleep anywhere or just take a sleeping pill and copious amounts of alcohol!
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